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Rangel Wants Mandatory Military Service

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  1. AZTOY

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    Rangel Wants Mandatory Military Service
    Monday, Dec. 30, 2002 9:35 a.m. EST
    CNSNews.com - Rep. Charlie Rangel, D-N.Y., will introduce a bill in the next congressional session to make military service mandatory.

    "I'm going to introduce legislation to have universal military service to let everyone have an opportunity to defend the Free World against the threats coming to us," said Rangel on CNN's "Late Edition."

    Rangel, who voted against a joint resolution authorizing military action against Iraq in October, believes mandatory enlistment for men ages 18-26 would serve as a deterrent to war.

    "When you talk about a war, you're talking about ground troops, you're talking about enlisted people, and they don't come from the kids and members of Congress," Rangel said. "I think, if we went home and found out that there were families concerned about their kids going off to war, there would be more cautiousness and a more willingness to work with the international community than to say, 'Our way or the highway.'"

    The last time the U.S. had a draft was in 1971, when it was discontinued under then-President Richard Nixon at the height of the Vietnam War.

    Prior to Nixon's ending conscription in the face of massive protests against U.S. involvement in Vietnam, the U.S. had continued with a draft since World War II, in peacetime and in wartime, under Presidents Roosevelt, Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy and Johnson.

    Rangel, who argues that that we should not be more worried about Iraq than any of our other enemies, did not reveal specifics of his proposal during the interview.
    http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2002/12/30/95025
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  2. clem

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    Aw yes, when idiots speak, just to hear themselves talk.
     
  3. Gordon

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    I guess the honorable Rangel didn't see "Gangs of New York" (or know his NYC history):D
     
  4. Monkeyleg

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    In Rangel's defense: he served in the Korean war, and received the Purple Heart and the Bronze Star for his service.

    What he's trying to do right now is alienate suburban soccer moms with 18 year-old sons. Not a bad strategy; it worked in the 1960's.
     
  5. deanf

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    So basically he's threatening us: "You people better knock off all this support for the president and military action or you may just find yourselves or your kin on the wrong end of an Iraqi rifle!"

    How nice.

    ("wrong end of an Iraqi rifle", I guess that would be either end, yes?)
     
  6. Malone LaVeigh

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    It'll never happen. The Repugs are in charge, and they'd much rather have the middle-class voters spectating the war from their video screens. Than having to think Johnny might have to go fight.

    9 out of 10 Torys prefer a good professional Hessian army...
     
  7. SIGarmed

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    Your exactly correct. What do you expect from a liberal fascist?
    He served in Korea, but much like Mcstain in AR he's full of it.

    This is from a man who publically stated that Republicans don't say "spick, and ****** anymore they just cut social programs" or something to that effect. NO one calls him on it! His thing is to be devisive. The guy cannot be trusted.
     
  8. Seeker

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    "Mandatory service" is the opposite of Freedom.
     
  9. Pendragon

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    Yes Seeker.

    As much as I am pro-military, I am anti conscription.

    Conscription is essentially life and death welfare.

    If you believe in freedom, you must believe that no man can live at the expense of another - yet, those who drafted our young men into Vietnam sought to do just that - worse actually as we were fighting for another countries "freedom".

    I think that if American cannot inspire enough men to join up, then it is time to call it quits. If we force people into the military and force them to fight and die for... freedom (?) then what kind of country are we?
     
  10. Porter Rockwell

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    Reinstate The Draft?

    Well, I'm a vet and sixtyish I'd vote for it!
    Honestly, military service would be good for the many ________ children more concerned with self cunsumption...ah well.
     
  11. Schuey2002

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    I forgot. What age is it to be eligible?? Isn't it something like.. 18-34 yrs. of age? :uhoh:
     
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    Not needed and won't happen. Just some guy flapping his lips. Regardless of all the reasons not to do it, there is no way they could afford to send all males 18-26 to boot camp alone.
     
  13. GhostShooter

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    Yep, lets go fight a war...um wait...you go fight a war.:mad:

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    Well I hate to say it, but I think a lot of young men and women would be "visiting" Canada if this were to actually come to fruition. Either that or learning Spanish. I also think it would be a smack in the face to all the men and women who are currently serving in the military as well to have this actually be introduced into the senate.
     
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    How about proposing that as Congressperson Rangel desires universal militree training that it begin in junior high school with mandatory firearms training? And let the NRA run this federally funded program.
     
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    Pendragon's got it right. I saw ole' Charlie last night, and it was as transparent as could be, that he was trying to propose a way to bullet-proof Iraq by infesting the Military with hoardes of Cat IV losers pressed into service.:rolleyes:
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    So it's OK for the serfs' children to go to war, but the children of congressmen can't? :confused:
     
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    If Rangel wasn't such a plastic gasbag he might be dangerous. Fact of the matter is that the 'best and the brightest' will in large part get deferrments, be in the rear with the gear or be assigned alternative theater postings while those of Mr. Rangel's constituency, Blacks and Latinos on the lower economic rungs of the ladder will be the ones who are drafted to be at the point of the spear. I'm surprised that Charlie's folks aren't calling for his head.
     
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    The draft is a good idea, perhaps more now
    then ever. If some leave go to Canada no harm we have enough coming across the southern border to take up the slack.
     
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    Great, then we can go back to the high quality troops we had in the good ole days :rolleyes: Sorry, but this is about taking us back to the 60's and 70's when drug use among troopers was common. We have taken a significant drop in numbers since then and quality of the troops has rarely been higher (the early '90's was probably the high point). We don't need this.
     
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    Then again, it's not like the Constitution has ever stopped Congressmen before...
     
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    I have to agree with most of gburner's post except that the best and brightest of the LEADERS will always volunteer to be out front at the point of the spear. Unfortunately those same traits that would be good to pass along to future generations are the same ones that tend to put you in a position to get blown up. England is a good example of what happens when you take out two consecutive generations of their best. The ones who weaseled easier assignments are now the "leaders" who won't take a stand on anything.

    Unfortunately Charlie won't be handed his head over this issue, or if he is the media won't cover it.

    Greg
     
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    Opps. Charley just warmed up this idea from the 90's when Clinton was committing troops all over the earth for social services.

    Silly me. Clinton was a democrat so it wasn't necessary to propose a new draft. Only republlicans deserve the draft treatment.

    Charley's political opportunism stinks.
     
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    MonKeyLeg,

    And McCain was a prisoner of war for 6 years, and that still does not make him right. But I do respect his military service.
     
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    The only talking politicians you can believe aren't talking for partisan political reasons are not politicians at all.

    Know any...? :rolleyes:
     
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