Recommendations on a House Dog...

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A miniature pinscher is half sized Doberman with full sized Guard Dog built in.

Good family dog, but very alert and good at guarding..... aggressive against intruders.


My parents have a four pound chihuahua who thinks she's a 80lb Rottweiler. She has this low "wrrrrrffff" that just sounds like trouble. Then you get on the other side of the door and find she's a chihuahua... :)
Aggressive as hell, but she can only chew your toes off. Not big enough to do much else..... nice walking alert system though.
 
Dogs!

Dogs – love ‘em to death. I’ve got four – all humane society/rescued. The oldest (shepherd/lab mix) was an abuse case. Original owner had him chained (literally) outside 24/7. Long story, short is he was down to 34 lbs when they rescued him and charged the owner. Now he’s an 80 lb lap dog and the most intelligent of the bunch! One of the other three is a chow/golden retriever mix. Highly intelligent and really is our “early warning†system in more ways than one. She goes off whenever a car/truck pulls up to the house while she’s inside and doors/windows closed. She can spot a two-foot black rat snake in the grass 40 feet away. (Can always tell when it’s a snake – different howl and bark.)

I’ve had other dogs throughout my lifetime, too. One of my favorites was the black/white border collie. Very intelligent, easily trained, adapted well to wherever we lived, house or apartment, required some amount of activity. He weighed about 50-55 lbs at full-grown age. If I were to recommend a breed of dog, all things considered, it would have to be a Border Collie. And, of course, I’d have to recommend getting a second one at some point. :D
 
Never thought of a dog as a non-firearm weapon before, but I guess the quallify.

You guys have some huge Labs, mine is 3 years old and tops out at 83lbs.

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He is a big baby, but I think if someone had obvious bad intentions he might turn aggressive, maybe-I'd be a little suprised.

Pits I don't trust, I guess if I had one as a pup it might be different. There are a couple that live down the street from me that the owner periodicly lets loose to roam the neighborhood, I've messed with them, they see me out because I'm about the only one outside ever so they come to me. The male has shown some playful aggression, but it's the femal that I don't trust.

I think if I would have to recommend the Boxer. I had a friend that had one growing up that was a good dog. I have never seen a dumb one, but I have never seen one that wasn't just a bundle of energy, so they would have to be exercised for sure. My friends Boxer saved me from a Dobie once. I was walking to his house and the Dobie came for the house across the street ready to eat me up, so I started running toward Brandon's house, it was a good 200 yds to his house (long driveway), his Boxer seen me coming and intercepted the Dobie and sent it running home. His Boxer also stood between him and his Dad once when his dad started being a jerk about something and knocking him around. Also, boxers have a look about them that most people don't want to test.
 
Gosh, I love Labs. I've wanted one for most of the last 20 years...wouldn't mind a Boxer, either.

John
 
My favorites:
German Shepards.
Dobermans.
Wolf dogs.

And for some reason, Austrailian Shepards.

I have a Blue Heeler... supposed to be really smart. Man, she is the dumbest dog I've ever seen. My wolfy on the other hand scary smart.
 
One of the few topics I like more than guns, dogs. I have both a german shepherd and a boxer. I can't say enough good things about each. The shepherd is more of a barker but the boxer is just as good at guarding and warning. If you choose the path of getting a boxer go through a reputable breeder. Mine has some health problems (stomach problems). She almost died this week due to a severe pancreatitus (sp?) attack. We rescued mine, so we had no idea of her health problems. Fortunately 99% percent of it can be controlled by her diet.

I know a lot of people stress the guarding or attacking ability of their dogs. For me it's their intelligence and temperment. Both of my dogs have woken me up when my blood sugar has dropped too low (I'm a type I diabetic, insulin dependent). Without a doubt they truly become your best friends.

If you want a smaller breed (both my dogs are over 75 pounds) look in to the pits. Of friend of mine who's a vet says they are one of the most intelligent and have a good health record. The only bad thing is the negative image portrayed by the wonderful media. Just tell everyone that it's lab mix.
 
The shepherd is more of a barker but the boxer is just as good at guarding and warning.

It's a trait of the breed that boxers aren't typically noisy gaurds that bark a lot but more "down to business" types. If someone is threatening the owner they will often get in between the threat and the owner and stare down the threat. If someone raises an arm to strike their family they will often just put their mouth on the arm without biting hard unless the threat continues. They are known for cornering intruders and keeping them there rather than just viciously attacking but they will attack if the threat becomes serious and immediate.

These are, of course, generalizations but they are common traits to the breed. You probably already know all that though.

brad cook
 
I've had very good experiences with Great Danes. Large enough to frighten many adults by size alone. Very intelligent and easy to house train. Happy with a small house or apartment. Agressive enough to be easily guard trained, but also very biddable for the owner.
My Dane is a bit over 2 years old, and at 120 lbs, she's small for a Dane. Only about 3 feet at the shoulder.
My Dane/Shepherd mix has been a good dog, but suffering low grade hip problems at this point. She's about 6 years now. She's bitten two people. Both were in my back yard trying to break in. No foul there.
When I was younger, my family kept Boxers. Great dogs, as noted above.
The Dane is a lot of fun to walk. People slow down to gawk at the guy with the pony! Lol.
Good luck with your choice.
 
I've had many dogs over the years. Almost all of them have been indoor/outdoor dogs (out all day in all night) so apartment dogs are an alien concept to me, but I'll add what I can.

Our collie was easy in the house and not too demanding wrt exercise. He was friendly up to the point someone reached for the door when we weren't home and then he moved to block and backed them off of the patio. He would sound whenever a strange vehicle came down the road and would announce unfamiliar people with a yipping bark. If inside he'd yip/whuff upon noticing a strange noise and growel if it were a stranger approaching the door. He kept my sister and I in the yard so well that my mother let him baby sit us outside. There is no question that he would have died to protect any of us from harm, but would be the perfect gentleman if the situation was friendly.

My aunt had boxers and I had a white one from one of the litters. He was very energetic, but was comfortable flopped around the house. He would take your arm in his mouth and lead you around by it without harming you in any way. As has been said he would stand between you and any perceive possible threat. He didn't announce strangers by barking, but instead would jump up and stand with ears pricked forward and then run to the window to look out. If it was someone he knew he would whine and wiggle. Strangers got a whuff? and men got a low growel if they approached the house.

The english sheep dog barked at anything that moved that wasn't family. He'd growel if he was in the house, but stood "guard" on the porch quietly if anyone approached.

I had a malimute female that was marvelous. Followed voice commands, friendly but slightly aloof, walked on lead perfectly and a bit of a clown. She had her own dog, an ancient female lab, that was the sweetest animal I've ever seen (as almost all female labs I've had around were). The malimute was the only dog I've ever had that there was no doubt that she would tear someone apart if told to or if HER people were threatened. She was not overtly aggressive, but I introduced her to everyone that might come into the house or on the property beyond deliveries/meter reading. She's the only dog I ever used in a situation where I was uncertain of other people and she certainly intimidated three young men into leaving the property in a hurry.

Labs and goldens, I can't say enough good things about them! Great dogs, not demanding, always glad to see you. They've barked to announce strangers and groweled when they approached the door without being introduced. Our old guy has gotten on in years, but he still alerts when a car comes up the driveway or someone comes on the porch. I've only heard him growel at a person once and that was when a stranger friend of my son pulled up to the kitchen door and just walked in the door. I had to grab Sampson before he got past me and to this dumb teenager and the big yellow dog still wanted to find out what the pale kid tasted like until I told him ot wait outside.

I've had little dogs that were more inside critters. My sister's cocapoo is the sweetest thing, but lets us know if anyone even sets foot on the property and will growel like a bear if she's inside and someone she doesn't know comes towards the door. She won't back down for any dog and sometimes is stupid about it. Out fox terrier is usually quiet, but whuffs? to let us know someone is near the door. Otherwise she's almost always silent. She sleeps with our daughter or on the stairs and I watched her jump up and bristle and give a surprisingly low growel when a boisterous friend of our came over for a visit one night. She's suspicious around strangers. We had a shepard/hound mix that was smarter than I am (but was kind enough not to rub it in) that would whuff? at any property boundary intrusion, growel if a stranger was within 20 feet of the door, and was completely silent and manouvered to get behind anyone that wasn't greeted as a friend that he hadn't been introduced to. He was protective and actually bit a fellow on the calf that was poking around the house looking for us when we weren't home. He said that the dog had kept him in his car for a while standing between him and the door and pacing back and forth ateranately whuffing? and groweling. Being stupid he got out anyway and the dog peeled off of the door and went around the side of the house and he thought he had been all bluff, silly him. The moment he was closer to the door than the car the dog came streaking from around the bumper of his car and hit him from behind without a sound. The bite was just a warning as it didn't break the skin, but left a large bruise (I know it was a warning because I watched this dog chew 3 inch oak tree limbs into dust all the time for fun).
 
Springers are great instictive working dogs.

there are 2 varieties, the long haired 'show dog' and the short haired 'field dog" both are excellent hunters, great companion dogs and they DON'T bark unless something is really bothering them. Even as a pup you'll find them to be excellent watchdogs... as my brother found out one night when he came home unannounced at 12am... he said "my god the bark on that dog sounds really BIG" The dog in question, Bear, might have been 20 pounds at the time.

Smart too. But all working breeds are pretty smart. They can have some hip dysplasia as they get older but they play pretty hard.

Webbed feet makes them good swimmers, also means they can dig a hole to china in about 3 seconds.

Our biggest male weighed 55-60 pounds.

Whatever you pick you realize we'll want pictures!
 
For your needs, and for your weight/size range:

BORDER COLLIE

Look no further.

No smarter breed exists, very alert and possessing fine senses. Make great companions and will back down an adversary-- 2 or 4 legged.

Excellent dogs.
 
Jeff, what you say is true of Border Collies but wouldn't it be cruel to keep one indoors as the original poster desires? I was under the impression they need significant exercise. I had an docked-tail Australian Sheep dog that was my "best" dog ever (smart, protective, lived to 19 years old) but I'd never suggest one for a mostly indoor job.
 
Ironic happening...

As a result of this thread I mentioned getting a boxer to the spousal unit. She kinda poo-pooed that idea so I dropped it.

Tonight I was outside when a beautiful brown and white female boxer came wandering up to the house. She was very friendly and well-behaved.

Much as I thought about keeping her we were able to track down the owner and reunite them.

Afterwards the spousal unit said, "Last night you said you wanted a boxer. Tonight why don't you say you want a million dollars?".
 
There is nothing cruel about keeping a dog indoors, providing the owner is willing to take the dog out for a decent walk at least once or twice a day.

There is a myth that certain breeds of dog need a bucolic environment in order to be comfortable. This is false. Give the dog the exercise it needs- regardless of breed- and play with it frequently, indoors or outdoors.
 
Frosty,
We have a small female German Shepard. I got her via the State Police. She is small wire-y and fast. Nothing gets close with out her knowing about. She is great protection and very good with neighborhood kids.

I would reccommend going in this direction very highly. If you have aby questions please let me know.

Rick
 
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