"Red Dot in Reduced Rifle Loads" IS THIS SAFE?

[R.W.Dale]

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[gamestalker]

I've know a guy who has been using Red Dot and lead bullets lightly dusted with lapping compound to lap his barrels for many years, never had a probelm I'm aware of. I don't personally do this, but I really don't have a need to.

 

[35 Whelen]

It is my opinion that this is a terrible idea.

If anyone who believes this load is unsafe has any experience with it, I'd certainly like to hear from them. Otherwise, your opinions are just that....opinions.

In my EXPERIENCE, the load is very safe and I trust it far more than full throttle hunting loads. I seriously have fired several rounds of this load mainly in three different 30-06's, but also in several Mosins. It's an extremely accurate load, hence the name "The Load".













There are more, but surely everyone gets the idea.

I took a look at my RCBS Cast Bullet Manual and they list loads with Red Dot starting with the .223 Rem and going on up through the 30-06, 338 Win Mag, 358 Win, etc.
All of my Lyman manuals from the old 50's versions, up through and including their very latest 49th Edition include cast bullet loads using Red Dot in centerfire rifle cases.
Really, if you want opinions on this load, why not ask handloaders who actually use it such ass those at the Cast Boolit website?

It is safe as long as your safe. If your not safe then it isn't safe to use.

Exactly. So, if you're careless, unsafe, inexperienced, accident prone or just plain AFRAID, then DON'T use this load.

Incidently, Mr. Harris can be contacted via the The Cast Bullet Association Inc. Forum.

35W

 

[kingmt]

I like what I use better tho. It is around the burn rate of Blue Dot. Since you can't get what I use then I'd suggest BD. I also use jacketed so I can't say how it works with lead.

I load .223, .243, & 410, with ~BD alot. I have used RD in 30-06 with pulldown 147's(maybe they were 165's) & had good results. About 2.5" @ 100yds with a rifle that only gets 1.25" with my best load so far.

 

[Jim Watson]

Mr Harris said why he came up with The Load:
"I had a caddy of Red Dot, and no longer reloaded
shotshells, so asked myself, "what can I do with it?""
No mad scientist in the laboratory here.

I prefer 700X for shotshells, so I tried 12 grains of that with cast bullets in .30-06.
It shot accurately, the only thing better was 19 gr 2400 and a HARD bullet.

 

[Stumper]

Red Dot works great for reduced power rifle loads.
Certainly people are welcome to use other powders for their special purpose loads but RedDot is exceedingly economical, available, versatile , and proven. Those who don't know how to load reduced power loads for high intensity cartridges utilizing fast burning powders should not try to doso unless they are willing to learn how to it safely. Those who don't know probably should recognize that they are ill equipped to opine....but those who don't know that they don't know continue to do so readily.

 

[zxcvbob]

Is it safe?

 

[Redbeard55]

Red Dot in Reduced Rifle Loads

100% agreement with Jungle. As far as I'm concerned C.E. Harris is god among mortals. The article that everybody references also lists loads for 3 different power levels. Some of these loads are well below shown in most reloading manuals - when you can even find data. For a couple of years now I've been working on gallery loads. Accuracy is typically great when in the 900-1200 fps range with nearly any caliber and bullet. It has opened up a whole new world for me. Getting to the age when I simply can't handle long range sessions with deer caliber rifles. With 6.5 grains of Green Dot I've loaded 11 different calibers. I'm enjoying extended range sessions just plinking away at metal gongs. Recoil is hardly noticeable and good to great accuracy. Allows me to practice off hand shooting as much as I want. If you look at what the Cowboy Action shooters are doing, they are essentially duplicating the work of CE Harris. The following website lists various cowboy and modern calibers. http://www.gmdr.com/lever/lowveldata.htm. There are neat graphs which show the relationship between velocity and accuracy. Nearly any of my old military scoped rifles with shoot 1 hole groups at 25 yards. With open sights it is easy to score hits on metal gongs. Simply move the military sights up to 400 or 500 yards to get point of range at plinking distance. Still checking out accuracy for 50 yards and beyond. At first I was a little anxious about sticking a bullet in the barrel. Have now shot 1500-2000 of these low velocity cast bullet loads. Not a single stuck bullet.

 

[snuffy]

Is it safe?
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Still trying to figure out what that dude is doing???¿

 

[zxcvbob]

That's the evil ex-Nazi dentist that was torturing Dustin Hoffman in "Marathon Man". He kept asking "Is it safe?" (Sorry, obscure literary reference; I do that sometimes) IIRC, he's holding a dental pick and a bottle of clove oil, implying that Hoffman (I don't remember the characters' names) has a choice.

 

[David Wile]

Hey folks,

Say hello to Sir Laurence Olivier.

Best wishes,
Dave Wile