Reliability of your EDC

[crazywednesday]

Recently I purchased a P320 from sig. So far its been to the range twice with zero malfunctions. 500 rounds total, 300 blazer brass, 100 IMI hp, 100 S&B in no particular order other than the IMI was split between beginning and end of shooting session. How many rounds do you put through your gun without malfunction before you feel comfortable carrying? How many malfunctions per 1k rounds are acceptable to you?

Justin

 

[Vern Humphrey]

I'd carry it. Of course, I practice regularly, so the first 500 rounds is a mere drop in the bucket. I have a much longer track record on my carry piece.

 

[crazywednesday]

I'm currently carrying it. I've only owned it for 3 weeks. It will get more range time as I get time. Im just curious as to what people use as a threshold.

 

[matrem]

I'd have no problem depending on that Sig after 500 trouble free rounds.
My current EDC has a bit over 1400 rounds through it without a hiccup.

Once broken in, not sure we need to accept less than 1000 out of a thousand using good ammo & magazines.

 

[lpsharp88]

I put about 150 rounds through my EDC before I called it good. Mixture of Blazer, handloads, and my carry ammo. Up to 500 now and still no hiccups.

 

[GBExpat]

... How many rounds do you put through your gun without malfunction before you feel comfortable carrying? How many malfunctions per 1k rounds are acceptable to you?

If the pistol in question is a form-factor with which I am familiar & comfortable, I will often add it to my carry rotation after firing only about one box of 50 rounds thru it.

Malfunctions per 1k? I have never thought it about it in those terms. If I experience a malfunction, to continue carrying the piece, I must be confident that I both understand the cause of the malfunction and be sure that I have corrected/eliminated that issue.

 

[bluejeans]

One box of 50 and I'm good. but my edc's are all revolvers.
300-500 for a semi would do it for me provided no failures. If it doesn't fail in the first 500 I doubt it ever will unless the ammo is faulty.
Of course I would shoot much more than this in practice but its about building my familiarity with the gun... Not from distrusting its function

 

[bannockburn]

I would think a trouble free semi-auto after 250 to 300 rounds would be good to go for my EDC.

 

[short barrel]

I'd say you're good to go. Especially with a Sig. When the dept. I retired from went to Sig .357's, I saw to failures in any of the guns. Probably some I didn't know about across the state, but none I heard about. Out of the box, they were reliable. Retirees get to keep their service gun. I've been gone since '02 and have still not experienced a failure with mine.

A stupid question: I see it all the time here, but never new what it means. EDC. Also IMI? Thanks. In the contexts EDC used, I think it is related to concealed carry, which I've always abbreviated as c/c.

 

[ArchAngelCD]

Who the heck can afford or even find 300 to 500 rounds of their carry ammo these days?
I'm glad I don't have to worry about that since I carry a revolver daily.

 

[mljdeckard]

I have actually changed this slide in my class. I USED to say, "200 rounds, error-free, with the gun, ammo, and magazines you will be carrying." I have changed this, because most people will be carrying polymer-frame autos whose reliability is perfectly fine for civilian defensive use. I tell them, 200 rounds, and plan on a hiccup or two at the beginning, but by the time you hit 200 rounds, it should be boringly reliable. Rotate a box of your carry ammo through it once or twice a year in addition to regular practice.

 

[GBExpat]

... I see it all the time here, but never new what it means. EDC. Also IMI? Thanks. ...

EDC = Every Day Carry, usually refers to the handgun
IMI = Israel Military Industries, usually refers to ammo mfd by same.

 

[BobWright]

I'm glad somebody explained EDC, thought it had something to do with electronics. Not being in government, not too accustomed to acronyms. Suffice it for me to say "the gun I carry everyday."

But as to reliability, here is mine, not a hiccup in over 5,000 rounds:



Its a Ruger .44 Special, ex-.357 Magnum. Holster by Graveyard Jack Gunleather.

Bob Wright

 

[CDW4ME]

Depends.
Most recent pistols were a Glock 30SF and 23C.
I "broke-in" each pistol with at least 4 different hollow point rounds, just over 100 rounds each. I did not shoot any FMJ because FMJ is not relevant to SD. Neither pistol malfunctioned, brass ejection was consistent (not toward my head). I felt pretty confident with either pistol and the HP ammo I'd already shot.

Conversely, I have a Les Baer UTC that is extremely tight; I shot about 500+ trouble free rounds (at least half of that HP) before I felt comfortable with it.

 

[herrwalther]

I look at rates for malfunctions instead of total rounds. If you shoot 200 rounds with no malfunctions that is good enough to carry for me. If it malfunctions 2 or 3 times in those 200 rounds, I'll put more rounds through it to see if the problem works itself out or narrow down the issue. Usually by the time I hit 1000 rounds I decide whether malfunctions are bad enough to sell, send back to the factory, fix etc. Or if the malfunctions are negligible, none, or ammo related it becomes a carry weapon.

 

[Blue Thunder]

My first CCW gun was a Springfield Armory Custom in 45ACP that I bought in the early 1990's that was a Prize at a Regional Contest that was traded into the gunshop that I worked for. When I got it I ran 800 rounds of reloaded 45 ammo thru it. The next two weeks I ran another 2000 rounds thru it with other range owners shooting it as much as they liked. After this I cleaned it and ran 50 rounds of SD ammo (Federal Hydro's) thru it with zero issues. After that it became my first Daily SD carry gun. I still have it with several mods but carry a G-19 that has more than 10,000 rounds thru it in 4 Gun Fighting classes. You do need to run rounds thru the gun to insure pure function with no issues before you bet your life on it.

 

[VA27]

If it's a gun from a major mfg (Colt, Smith, Ruger, Glock, SIG, H&K) for EDC, I start with a clean, properly lubricated gun. If it makes it through two mags full without any problems, I'll clean it, load it and call it good. A mag in the gun and a spare is what I usually carry so shooting any more than that seems pointless. Since I seldom buy brand new, I figure it should already have had plenty of rounds through it.

 

[CZ9shooter]

My Jframe has been 100% no matter what... no excuses. And I expect it to be 100% for many years. Micro 9's and 380's dont compare.

Two or three cylinders worth is about all I need just to prove that the bullets dont get yanked from their cases. POA/POI is not much of a concern as any real use of this ammo will probably within a couple yards.

 

[Tallball]

For a revolver maybe just 100 rounds, as long as I have examined it carefully and it looks and feels right.

For an auto, maybe 300 rounds, as long as it functions 100% perfectly and I have field stripped it and looked the parts over very carefully.

I don't clean them before their first test, and I want the oldest rattiest ammo I can find, preferably random mixtures from bags or boxes of old leftovers. They might have to function dirty with dubious ammo one day. If they can't, I want to know about it.

My preferred SD pieces have had thousands of trouble-free rounds through them.

 

[Deus Machina]

If I could afford it, I'd shoot 300 or 500 rounds before I start carrying it. As it is, I'm lucky to afford 100 but then I can't afford another gun to test.

FWIW, my revolver has had two stoppages (one jumping crimp with +P, and one requiring a new firing pin spring) and every single issue in my CZ, from a full can's worth of ammo, was because my reloads were set to average total length but the cast bullets had less taper than FMJ and bound into the rifling.
Not a single problem with a different mold design or any rounds off the shelf. Zero. I'm calling that good to go.

 

[BSA1]

How many rounds do you put through your gun without malfunction before you feel comfortable carrying?

500. Although I like to break it up into 3 or 4 sessions on different days. Firing 500 rounds is as much for training myself on how the gun operates and fits my hand as reliability testing.

How many malfunctions per 1k rounds are acceptable to you?

Zero due to mechanical problem with the gun. Shooter error, bad ammo and bad magazines are different.

The shooter goes back to school and focuses on the fundamental shooting skills.

Bad ammo. Since 98% of the ammo I shoot is my reloads it is very rare to have ammo problems although I did have a number of failures to fire in a batch of 500 9mm reloads with Winchester Small Primers not go off on the first strike. They all went off on the second hammer strike. This was a very unusual occurrence as I have been reloading for over 30 years and prior to this I have had very few ftf's. I have had no further problems so I don't know how to explain why it happened.

Bad magazines. Trash can. Replace with new magazines.

Who the heck can afford or even find 300 to 500 rounds of their carry ammo these days?

Affordable factory ammo is getting pretty easy to find in my parts. The gunpowder shortage is making a big crimp on my reloading though. I am cutting back to only shooting two calibers (9mm for my edc and 38 Spl. for my wife's) until powder becomes available.

I'm glad I don't have to worry about that since I carry a revolver daily.

Round guns always hold a near spot for me. No, I really mean near as in one is in the drawer next to me as I type this reply.

 

[MedWheeler]

I don't have a specific round count I try for. I just run a bunch of mags through, and put the gun in carry rotation if I have no failures. Honestly, I don't think I've had any failures with any of my carry guns after purchase during this period.

However, I have taken all of them beyond 200 rounds by a significant margin. But, I'm not inclined to start over should I experience a malfunction later, especially if it occurs with a round of ammunition I have been previously using trouble-free.

 

[short barrel]

Bob Wright, you're my kind of gun person. I love that .44. You say it was converted from .357, so you probably got it before Ruger came out with the flattops again.

 

[AR15activist]

LCP -- 750+ rounds, 700 ball, APRX. 50 SD loads -- 100% reliable.

One jam per 1000 would be acceptable to me (wood knock.)

 

[Zaydok Allen]

I consider 500 rounds to be the minimum for reliability testing, and also the bare bones minimum to be proficient enough with a gun to be even minimally competent with it.