Reloading for Friends

[kmw1954]

Another tell him to buy supplies and then teach him. If he doesn't want to learn then let him buy factory.

I load for my wife and I which I consider a different set of circumstances as we are both shooting the same loads from the same boxes and these loads are tested in all guns we own. I see it as whether it's her or I it's still the same risk to both of us and if these are not safe for her to shoot then they shouldn't be safe for me either.

There is also one friend I shoot with and have no issues firing his reloads in his guns just as he feels the same about shooting my reloads in my guns.

I don't shoot other peoples loads and I do not buy loads at the gun shows.

 

[Lee Q. Loader]

Thanks all for the advice and replies. Once again this forum brought me back down when I was considering doing something I probably shouldn't. I'll offer him use of my equipment and reloading lessons.

 

[Hooda Thunkit]

I have a friend that wanted me to reload some .45 Colt for him. I refused, and invited him over to use my equipment.

I helped him look up a load, showed him how to set up the dies, and supervised him as he loaded 25 shells. We went out back, and he fired them.

He left my house with a press, a scale, a pound of powder, the remainder of a box of primers and a few dozen projectiles, all of which I gave him from my excess stock.
For Xmas, his wife gave him a box full of other reloading tools, equipment, and manuals.

He's loving it.

 

[Mowgli Terry]

Somebody else's reloads: Made up a personal rule: Some 338 Win Mag rounds showed up in a faded factory box during a clean up here. These things would not even start to chamber in a 338 rifle. There were no plans to fire the rounds. Figured real quick these were poor reloads. Pulled the bullets, dumped the power and saved the brass. Made a rule carved in stone right then. No risk-pull the bullets and salvage the brass. Dump powder under a bush. Also, encourage others not to take risks. I go along with show and tell.

 

[rfwobbly]

HERE'S HOW

Skip everything else and look at the legal side. An ammunition manufacturer (or remanufacturer) has to have a specific FFL to be able to operate his business. If you are construed as making a gain by remanufacturing ammunition for your buddy then your up a creek without much of a paddle.

HERE'S WHY
In a worst case scenario, you may not be dealing any longer with your best friend, but instead the totally irrational and inconsolable widowed spouse (and her lawyer) of your newly deceased best friend.


If he truly wants to reap the cost savings, the offer of your help and your equipment will be welcome, and graciously accepted. If he doesn't ever come over, then it's the equivalent of owning a pickup truck on someone else's moving day... wanted, but not really appreciated.

 

[entropy]

So I took took the two proud ones apart and found rings of brass in the pockets! I took the two spents that he fired, removed the spent primers and one had a sheared ring of brass in the primer hole! Never saw that before ever.

Another reason I hand ream the crimps out of crimped brass. And both feel and look at primed brass for depth.

 

[Chuck R.]

HERE'S HOW


HERE'S WHY
In a worst case scenario, you may not be dealing any longer with your best friend, but instead the totally irrational and inconsolable widowed spouse (and her lawyer) of your newly deceased best friend.

If he truly wants to reap the cost savings, the offer of your help and your equipment will be welcome, and graciously accepted. If he doesn't ever come over, then it's the equivalent of owning a pickup truck on someone else's moving day... wanted, but not really appreciated.

This is my approach.

I've got a couple friends that due to space, funds etc. do not reload. I'll have them over to use my equipment. For my best friend I'll take care of his brass prep to save time (Prec Rifle ammo), but priming, powder charging, seating bullets is his lane.

 

[Whiterook808]

If he is willing to buy the dies then it is just a little bit more for a Lee C press and an inexpensive digital scale. Throw in some cheap dial calipers and a a manual and he is in business. If you do decide to load for him, don't even get in the same county as max loads.

 

[Olympus]

I load for good friends and family all the time. No big deal. Select a powder that fills the case more than 50% so you’d overflow if you a double charge. I think most the naysayers must be in the insurance business for work.

 

[kmw1954]

I think most the naysayers must be in the insurance business for work.

Is that so? I've been in business and have had to carry malpractice and product liability insurance. It's not cheap.

Commercial Ammunition manufactures all carry it and for good reason. Does the guy with a table at a gun show carry it? If something serious happens and someone gets hurt how hard is it going to be to find this guy to find out if he's carrying insurance? Who do you go after if you end up in the ER or are you responsible for the bill yourself?

 

[thomas15]

So, a dude has enough money to buy a brand new gun but doesn't have the money to buy some brand new ammo for his brand new gun.

This dude has a friend that has enough money to buy handloading tackle and components but doesn't have the money to buy a gun.

Sounds like one of those sad sad country western songs:

"One dude's got bullets the other's got a gun......."

Second verse:

"One dude's got a boat, the other's got a motor......."

Third verse:

"One dude's got a horse, the other's got a saddle......"