Remington 1911 R1

[mjb]

I saw that Remington is now making a 1911 .45. At first I was excited in purchasing one. However, I have heard that some 1911 magazines will not fit in the gun, and that it is not rated for +p ammo. Does anyone have any more infor or experience on this gun?

 

[FIVETWOSEVEN]

Some of the mags won't fit it? Sounds like its not made to Specs!

 

[Red Cent]

Hear that in a gunstore?

 

[Quoheleth]

Or on the interwebs?

 

[9mmepiphany]

additional question, if you don't mind

does anyone know who makes the parts for Remington's 1911...someone told me it was Armscor

 

[The Lone Haranguer]

However, I have heard that some 1911 magazines will not fit in the gun ...

This is unlikely. What is more likely is that some magazines may work better in it than others. This is common with modern 1911s. With all the 1911 and magazine combinations out there, each made by a different company, to slightly different specs, tolerances and clearances, sometimes you have to experiment until you find a combination that works. It was a lot easier when only one company made them.

... and that it is not rated for +p ammo.

Also unlikely. It should be rated for any ammo for which there is a SAAMI spec.

 

[DrLaw]

The reel trufh

It's all true. Remmington, which has not been in the pistol business since the 1930's (The XPX-100 aside) is farming out all it's work to other places. The reason most 1911 magazines won't fit is that the Remmington is installing the magazines backwards, the square end to the front.

They are having Tawrus make the slides from MIM using zinc alloys from the supply left over from the former Jenings Arms Co., aka Bryko.

Working parts such as the trigger and hammer group are being made by DWM using titanium-coated bronze alloys for light weight and heatability.

The barrels are being made by the Spanish Company Junkar, and are being rifled by buttons, which is where they get the phrase, button rifling.

I could go on with this one, but I want to see how many fish I can catch tonight, so I am heading out now. (You know, the Doc is out now.)

The Doc is out now.

 

[mjb]

on the web

 

[MICHAEL T]

All I know is at the NRA convention I ask several times who makes the frame and slides. They would not give me a answer . Just ignored my question. I won't buy one if can answer a simple question

 

[9mmepiphany]

All I know is at the NRA convention I ask several times who makes the frame and slides. They would not give me a answer . Just ignored my question. I won't buy one if can answer a simple question

that mirrors the reports i got from attendees at the SHOT show

what i would take from that response is:
1. not us
2. not domestically

 

[sidheshooter]

Don't know about mags. Regarding +P, folks can scroll down and see for themselves; it appears that their own 185 gr. +P Golden Saber from the same website is not recommended.

http://www.1911r1.com/pages/FAQs.aspx

Good thinking, Remington... no one asked me, but I would have suggested warranting the gun for their own ammo...

 

[Jon Coppenbarger]

I have 2 of them and was one of the first to get one in colorado and have two more ordered but what the heck I like 45's.

I have not had a lick of problems shooting the one I have shot and it is a very nice looking pistol for the money. I would not have a problem shooting 45 +P+ even threw it.

But then again I own many, many of them from a 1913 colt to the new ones coming out.
It could turn out that I do not like them but everything I have heard from folks who actually own one they like them.

 

[earlthegoat2]

I dont think there will be any more problems with this one than any other 1911 in the price point such as Armscor.

The question as to where the materials are made are anyones guess. I have heard many reports similar to Michael_T's. IMO, the only way Remington could make a 1911 at such a pricepoint would be to farm it out overseas. So far I have not seen a claim they are made in the US but I have not seen a gun either so I do not know what it says on it.

All in all though I think you get what you pay for with this one.

 

[mjb]

Remington has told me in a e-mail that they did a market survey before the pistol was introduced, and therefore the pistol was a response to the survey. I do not believe that. I really don't think that anyone would tell them to make it not rated for +P. I will not buy it. :banghead:

 

[Omaha-BeenGlockin]

Dealer had one in the case marked at $699---was thinking that was more than MSRP---then I notice written in small letters on the bottom that its not for sale---so not sure what to think about that. I didn't even bother to ask to see it.

 

[sidheshooter]

The early reports really got my tail wagging on this thing, but the ammo constraints (as dictated by the company, if not in reality) hemming and hawing about the parts origin (just be forthcoming, it's not like RIA is suffering for fans) and general post-introduction vibe just serve to make the Springer Mil-Spec look even better as an entry piece than it already is, IMHO.

Nice looking piece, though. If someone gave me one, what the heck, I'd shoot it...

(...but you can bet that the first rounds through it would be from my old stash of proload 230 +P. Spank that thing and make it behave...)

 

[CoRoMo]

I'd take the cheapest Springer over this one, all day long.

 

[Jon Coppenbarger]

I have the gi springfield and like it also but I like the remington more. so what happened when you shot your remington that made you not like it?

I see your in colorado also I will give you $500 for it since you do not like it as long as you have not torn it up?

 

[earlthegoat2]

You can probably still safely shoot +P out of it. Remington is just CYAing.

Heck, get an extra power Wolff spring before you shoot +P out of it.

 

[DrLaw]

I guess I was using the wrong bait, I didn't get any nibbles.

Interesting to see how much people know about a gun that few have seen, but have heard of. If I had listened to the nay-sayers of Taurus, I would not have a nice PT-1911 that is serving me very well in competition.

Just saying.

The Doc is out now.

 

[Jon Coppenbarger]

Actually DR I did enjoy and had a good laugh with you. Thank you

Everybody has a opinion and thats fine and some folks are seeking info on if they should chose to buy something then we as a community need to step up and give them all of the CORRECT information that they have to help them make a choice.

I will need to check in on a few of the 1911 forums to see what they have been saying since they have been out a little over a month to the public.

just checked on a few of those other 1911 forums and overwelmingly positive.

 

[Jon Coppenbarger]

Oh how many of you have put in a request for the NEW Ithaca 1911's already?
Can not wait to get a few of those that I have requested. reports seem positive on these also.
I hope they keep them coming. maybe a savage to make up for not doing complete pistols in 1918. dang savage I have on the colt frame---(yes its correct) well it all should be savage so maybe I will email them and ask when they are going to make one ! LOL

 

[DrLaw]

Ithacas making a 1911???

Personally, which I know brings this thread down, I'd rather see Remington bring back their .380 auto, and Savage bring back the double stack 1918's, etc...

Oh yeah, Smith & Wesson without that dang Clinton lock.

The Doc is out now.

 

[jbkebert]

A remmington 1911 sounds like a giant peice of crap. At least it will be on par with every rifle they have made in the last 10 years. Might even come with a factory trigger of 35# to match the model 700 CDL in .260 rem that I bought. Not sure what actual trigger pull was before installing a jewell trigger but it was horrible.

 

[bradcl]

My Remingotn 1911 has been nothing but enjoyable to shoot. in the 6 months I have owned it. Definitely not a "piece of crap" I have yet to find another mag that will not work. I havea Kimber mag for mine that has never ftf or fte. The gun has been extremely accurate, and easy to shoot. My wife even likes shooting it more than her 9mm or our .380. I have shot some +p ammo through it with no problem. Since any +p ammo I have found is quite expensive, I would never use it as my main ammo at the range, so once I saw how it performed in the gun, it will remain my self defense ammo, and be limited to the occasional range trial. Otherwise I just stick with the manufactures' recommendation for the range. I think a .45 with a good quality .230 grain hollow point should have enough stopping power for most cases. Anyway, my main point was that I have not seen another 1911 mag that will not fit the Remington, although there may be one out there somewhere.