I'm sure this has been asked but I'll ask again. I've heard that Remington has really gone down hill with their quality control when it comes to their 870 line, even their Police models. Is this the case because I just put money down on a 870 Police and now I am kind of worried I might get a defective gun right from the start. I read about the 870 problems on older threads from this sight and a couple of other sites and the people that had problems with theirs said this has been happening a lot with the 870 guns.
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Remington along with every other gun company has to make a gun now that will "compete" with others on market; it is unfortunate that we have allowed foreign countries to put their "junk" in our gun market but we have; in order to survive, all gun companies make cheaper models to keep the money rolling in; to answer your question, your purchase is ok but if you are worried about quality, then switching to another gun maker won't be that much difference because ALL of them are having some problems;
If you want quality materials, then I suggest that you buy "old" guns such as winchesters, remingtons, and browning; back in the day, these companies produced quality instead of quanity; there are 870's that are 30 plus years old that are working better that the new ones made today; don't be afraid to buy someone's shotgun that was made in the 60's and 70's because they were made with REAL metal and not plastic;
Remington along with every other gun company has to make a gun now that will "compete" with others on market; it is unfortunate that we have allowed foreign countries to put their "junk" in our gun market but we have; in order to survive, all gun companies make cheaper models to keep the money rolling in; to answer your question, your purchase is ok but if you are worried about quality, then switching to another gun maker won't be that much difference because ALL of them are having some problems;
If you want quality materials, then I suggest that you buy "old" guns such as winchesters, remingtons, and browning; back in the day, these companies produced quality instead of quanity; there are 870's that are 30 plus years old that are working better that the new ones made today; don't be afraid to buy someone's shotgun that was made in the 60's and 70's because they were made with REAL metal and not plastic;
I saw a Remington 332 O/U Shotgun the other day that looked great. I contacted Remington about it, twice, and never received a reply. I'm not impressed with their customer service, not at all. I guess I'm not a dealer so they don't have time to respond to my inquiries. From what I read it isn't such a great gun anyway. 20ga, looks nice. I really wanted to buy it. Not anymore.
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rbernie
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This comment is not factually correct and is certainly not helpful. Sharing of opinions is fine, but I find repeated misrepresentation of data to be inappropriate and unwelcome.
New 870 Wingmasters have no known issues with any ammo. The Police models are built off of the Wingmaster line, and your Police model should have no cycling issues with any ammo.
New 870 Express models have known issues with Winchester and some Federal bulk pack/promo ammo, because these specific ammo choices have out of spec steel bases. Other shotgun manufacturers have addressed this by making their chambers larger-than-spec or by polishing the chambers and moving the price point up commensurately. Remington has done neither in their Express line, in favor of advocating the use of in-spec ammo. Again, this issue should not effect your Police model, since the Police model should come with the Wingmaster's polished chamber.
Remington has changed the materials and construction of some of the 870 bits over the years and some folk don't much cotton to that, much as the S&W folk pine for the days of pinned-and-recessed guns and decry the current use of MIM in their wheelguns. On the other hand, some of the traditional 870 gripes (e.g. sharp/unfinished interior machine work) have been there since the beginning, since the 870 was always designed and intended to be a budget-minded mass-produced shotgun.
Pocket Rocket
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I initially had this problem with my 870P but it has gone away. Several things happened. First, I polished the chamber with #0000 steel wool and CLP. Second, the stickiness with the shells was only happening with the cheap-o Wal-Mart ammo. In addition, this was when I had less than 1000 rounds through the gun. I had a gunsmith take a look at it and he said nothing was wrong with it and that I simply needed to 1) work the action harder and 2) put more rounds through it. I now have almost 2K through it and I just shot a 100 round value pack of Federal through it today, no issues.
I will say that even if you get a lemon or a gun you feel is sub-standard, Remington will take care of you with their warranty. They, like S&W, will pay for shipping both ways and I've had good experiences with them on the phone and returning a firearm.
DHart
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Allist816... don't worry about your new 870P. Chances are it will be a great gun for you. Most of the issues you hear about are associated with the Express models which Remington seems to be cutting corners on everywhere they can... including polishing and certainly the quality of the finish. Even a new Express can still be a great gun, but the finish definitely sucks and the chamber may need to be polished to get reliable extraction with all ammo types. The 870 Police and Wingmaster models appear to be getting good attention to QC still. I just bought one of the new 870P walnut/blued versions and mine is a might sweet gun indeed. Yours is most likely to be the same. And if it does need any attention, Remington will take care of it for you, bothersome as that would be, though.
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throdgrain
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I only own two guns, they're both Remingtons and they're both 25+ years old. Both work look and feel great, but that wouldnt stop me buying a new Remington if I needed to. Trouble is, if they put thier prices up a bit and increased thier quality a bit (which is most likely fine anyway) no doubt you'd get lots of posts on here say "Remingtons are too expensive look at this fabulous thing I bought from Turkey" etc etc 
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Hello friends and neighbors // I like um and I check out every one I buy with Winchester short brass,,still waiting for a malfunction.
Guess I just get lucky.
We used my Remingtons for skeet Sat. here are some pics with extra barrels and extensions.
2009,, 12ga. ,,Remington 870 Express Tactical with Ghost ring sights,, 2 3/4" or 3" ,,set up for bird season, with a VR 30" mid bead and chokes. Also shows 18 1/2" barrel and 6+1 extension. (the black one) LFT
1993,, 20ga.,, Remington 870 Express Magnum ,, 2 3/4" or 3",, 13" stock,, 21" VR barrel with choke ,,. Also shown 20" slug barrel 2 3/4" only with rifle sights. (the short one) MID
1976 12ga. ,, Remington Wingmaster ,, 2 3/4" only,, 28" VR barrel,, MOD choke. Also shown 18 3/4" VR large bead and 7+1 extension.(the pretty one)RT
**Knife is a Remington R2 waterfowl with 12 and 20 ga. choke tool and 870 trigger assembly pin tool.
I have had no problems with the newer or older 870s.
Of course any firearm cycles different when you are shooting it rather than shucking shells in the bedroom.
Guess I just get lucky.
We used my Remingtons for skeet Sat. here are some pics with extra barrels and extensions.
2009,, 12ga. ,,Remington 870 Express Tactical with Ghost ring sights,, 2 3/4" or 3" ,,set up for bird season, with a VR 30" mid bead and chokes. Also shows 18 1/2" barrel and 6+1 extension. (the black one) LFT
1993,, 20ga.,, Remington 870 Express Magnum ,, 2 3/4" or 3",, 13" stock,, 21" VR barrel with choke ,,. Also shown 20" slug barrel 2 3/4" only with rifle sights. (the short one) MID
1976 12ga. ,, Remington Wingmaster ,, 2 3/4" only,, 28" VR barrel,, MOD choke. Also shown 18 3/4" VR large bead and 7+1 extension.(the pretty one)RT
**Knife is a Remington R2 waterfowl with 12 and 20 ga. choke tool and 870 trigger assembly pin tool.
I have had no problems with the newer or older 870s.
Of course any firearm cycles different when you are shooting it rather than shucking shells in the bedroom.
juice0123
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I just bought a Remi 870 Express, the finish is pretty bad and I'm working on that. But I haven't had any issues with shells yet and I buy cheapo garbage cause i'm cheap. But the only complaint I have so far is the finish.
I just bought a Remi 870 Express, the finish is pretty bad and I'm working on that. But I haven't had any issues with shells yet and I buy cheapo garbage cause i'm cheap. But the only complaint I have so far is the finish.
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