RIA 1911 in 9mm

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I've been looking to purchase a new 1911, and have come to the conclusion that it's going to be a Rock Island Armory model. The gunsmith I use likes 'em for their simplicity and says that with a little tuning it will be reliable and accurate. (I trust the guy, he was a competition shooter, armorer and 'smith for the National Guard.)

The thing is, I don't reload, and made the mistake of looking at bulk ammo prices today - I hadn't realized how expensive .45 had gotten! A thousand rounds of 9mm is so much cheaper, I just may have to get a 1911 in 9mm.

What are people's opinions of the RIA 1911s in 9mm? I know the general consensus is good on the company in general, but does anyone have one? They're produced in a standard GI model, a "commander" version, and the "tactical".

Any help/advice would be much appreciated.
 
A modern 1911 shouldn't need any tweaking to be reliable. A base model can be improved bit it should be reliable out of the box. The RIA stuff isn't bad for an entry level 1911. If you can find a Springfield Armory instead, you'll probably be a little happier. They cost a hit more but IMHO they are worth it.
 
I've read good things about the RIA 9mm 1911's. I've been resisting the temptation myself, I already have five 1911's, all .45acp. Three of which are RIA's. They're fine pistols, don't listen to the naysayers.
 
RIA's are rock solid (pun intended). If you bought another 1911 and didn't spend at least double you'd almost certainly be wasting your money, most Springfield's, Kimber's, Taurus' within $300 of the RIA's $400 price range will only be more expensive and my not be even half as good.

The important thing to remember is that 1911 parts are ubiquitous and relatively cheap too, there are plenty of know-it-alls on gun boards who will attach value to a name brand instead of realizing that what counts is the sum of it's parts and how it shoots and runs. Some guys will tell you things like: "a cast frame is crap" when they've never even gotten anywhere near close, let alone met anybody alive or dead that's ever shot one out, "MIM is junk" when most guys don't even know what it means, what parts are even made through MIM, and think the extra $1K they paid for their boutique pistol they shine more than shoot was totally worth it to get a $35 safety on it instead of a $25 one.... Basically, there is so much BS floating around regarding 1911's make sure you don't get any on you.

You can buy an STI trigger for $25, an Ed Brown grip-safety for $40, and just about any other small part for less than 25 bucks as well... short of in-depth trigger work like cutting sears and hammers, with help from the forums, google, and youtube you could turn that RIA into a piece that would tower above any other mid-line 1911 out there and probably still have enough cash left over for your first case of ammo. A guy can make his 1911 "his 1911", meaning soup-to-nuts, grips, sights, safeties, mag buttons,etc., change whatever suits you. Craftsmanship is another story, and does have it's place and it's price, but I currently own 1911's by STI and Wilson Combat and have owned Brown's, Baer's, and Springfield's... a RIA in competent hands will be damn near as accurate for most humans and properly-tuned will run as well or better than any of them, it's the Indian not the Arrow, anyone who tells you different is probably more collector than shooter IMHO.

The 9mm RIA Tactical for around $425 is a steal, the STI Spartan which uses the same frame and slide is also pretty great for $625 with nothing that needs changing. Neither are ramped barrels, but I've owned a few 1911's in 9mm and even with a ramped-barrel anything but round-nose bullets compromises reliability too much to be worth it or fun so it's not the deal-breaker I once thought it was.

Buying quality mags and springing the gun properly with usually a 9lb or 10lb recoil-spring are the main things, for mags you want either Tripp's, Wilson ETM's, or the Metalform "springfield" ones, then just shoot the crap out of it.
 
I believe it's and armscor gun, and sti uses their frames and slides for the spartan, so the metal can't be all bad. I bet armscor makes the slides and frames for some of other companies guns too, but I can't back that up. I wouldn't worry about the metal.
 
I personally think the American Classic ll has a better finish than the RIA but the last RIA I shot (commander) had a really great trigger. Both are Philippine pistols and unless you are shooting 3000 a weekend I thing you will be happy with your choice. The 3000 rounds on the weekend thing is just what many on the Internet say; I do not know about the validity of that myself.
 
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They use cast steel for the slides and frames. Is cast not as strong as forged or milled? Sure. But will you put enough rounds through it to have a failure? Probably not.
 
The sti spartan in 9mm would be a better choice, it comes with more features than the ria and also has better sights , barrel etc and is more accurate for arouns $600.

If you try and upgrade a RIA to the spartan specs it will cost of a lot more money.

If you go with the RIA at least get their best model with the most features and best sights , trigger barrel etc. As it will cost you less in the long run. Most gunsmiths will charge you $50-$100 to fit each custom item plus the cost of the part. So the amount you have into the gun increases quite fast
 
The RIA "Tactical" is the best bang/buck in 1911s.

I've got over 15,000 rounds through my oldest .45, over 12,000 through my 9mm 1911-A2 (Para P18 clone) and almost 5,000 through my newest, the 1911 9mm Tactical which has become my wife's favorite so I'm now in the market for another.

I'm still debating if the STI Spartan version is "worth" a case of ammo price difference as nothing is lacking on the Tactical model other than they skimp on the grips, which is the place to do it as no matter what, someone will hate what you choose, so go cheap here and let the end user get what they prefer seems smart. I don't think the STI grips are anything special, but I doubt I'd change them as they look to be OK.
 
Hey all,

Thanks for the advice. I've noticed a few of you have recommended the STI Spartan, and I have taken a look at it - I just really don't care for some of the styling. So yes, while it does have some nicer parts, they're parts I would wind up changing out anyway. Plus it's kind of hard to get rid of those front serrations!

Thanks again for the advice.
 
Rocks dress up well too! This is a basic GI model that I put Tactical parts on, and fitted the beavertail myself (which was a LOT of work), then I had it blued. Trust me, just buy a Tactical to begin with.

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This is my other GI model that I put a bunch of WWII Colt parts on. It's posing with my Colt WWII repro.

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