Rimfire reliabillity

[GLOOB]

I've been through a couple of the Federal 550 boxes and 4 of the 325 count Federal Auto Match without a single failure.

Then one day all they had was the Remington 550 Golden Bullet HP, so I thought what the heck? I've been through half the box so far, and I had 4 duds.

 

[The Bushmaster]

Why Velocitors? Mini Mags come in 35 grain HP and 40 grain RN. They are hard to beat by any standards in both pistol and rifle. Both of mine are semi-autos and function great.

 

[gofastman]

why not? its a 40gr hollow point going faster than the 36gr MiniMag hollow point, I doubt either are gonna expand at pistol velocities anyway.

 

[John Wayne]

Are we talking about shooting matches or personal defense? The posts in this thread seem to fall into two seperate categories...

If you're talking about personal defense, start with a quality brand of ammunition, like CCI Stingers or Mini Mags. Then, make sure you didn't get a bad lot by dumping the rounds into a pile and firing half of them through your gun. That's about as good as you can hope for with .22 or any ammo.

 

[TimboKhan]

I've never noticed much problem with any rimfire ammo to tell you the truth

Neither have I, and I just finished shooting up what was left of a CASE of .22 bulkpack that was probably 20 years old. Oh, sure, I have had the occasional misfire, but for plinking purposes I don't really care all that much. I also shoot a lot of federal bulk pack ammo with no real issues. Just lucky, I guess.

 

[gofastman]

why not? its a 40gr hollow point going faster than the 36gr MiniMag hollow point, I doubt either are gonna expand at pistol velocities anyway.

FYI for everyone: further research shows that the mini-mags do open up at pistol velocities.
http://brasstard.com/2010/01/13/in-review-22-long-rifle-performance/

 

[Ben86]

From my experience neither cci stinger nor velocitors open up at pistol velocities. This is from my ruger 22/45 with a 5.5 in barrel into a couple water jugs. If it doesn't expand in water it isn't going to expand in anything.

Be that as it may velocitors would still be my choice in a .22 sd pistol because of weight, velocity and quality.

 

[hardluk1]

gofast You may want to shoot several different brands of go fast if thats what you got to have and deside which one shoots more accurate. Any of the premium ammo should shoot reliably. Mis- fires are a problem depending more on your rifles action , age and how many thousands of rounds have allready been shoot. Just buy and shoot, you will figure it out. All mine work almost 99.9% with any good brand ammo. I don't shoot cheap bulk pack but i do buy in bulk at lower cost. Wolf match.target 32.99 for 500 last time i bought. 100% reliable for a thousand rounds in other custom 10/22's. Sent a mark III in as it was to picky ,now so far 100% again. Several other can be a bit picky with rem and win.

 

[chrisb507]

I've never had a failure with either CCI Mini-Mags or Federal Game Shoks. They're the only ammo my Sig P226 (Classic .22lr) eats reliably.

 

[MICHAEL T]

CCI has never let me down . Bulk for play for serious shooting CCI

 

[DBR]

CCI Velocitors are optimized for a rifle length barrel. I think you will get better performance from Minimags out of a pistol.

If I were going to use a 22lr pistol for SD I would load it with whatever brand of 40gr lead solid it liked.

 

[gofastman]

CCI Velocitors are optimized for a rifle length barrel. I think you will get better performance from Minimags out of a pistol.

If I were going to use a 22lr pistol for SD I would load it with whatever brand of 40gr lead solid it liked

.

you're right, they are optimized for a rifle, but Velocitors still move about 80-100 FPS faster than 40gr MiniMags out of a pistol

 

[McGee]

Just purchased a S&W22a not long ago and ran about
1,050 rounds through it the first range trip.

I can't say anything good or bad about the Aguila Interceptors.

I shot a box of 50 of the CCI Velocitors and they performed
perfectly.

Shot 1,000 rounds of Winchester Wildcats since they were
cheap. Had maybe 10? FTF's. Not bad really for the bulk pack.

 

[PRM]

Not saying that from time to time there aren't bad lots of ammo. I've even got some bad center fire before. But, from my experience, the whole hoopla about .22 rim fire being unreliable is an idea that feeds on itself and is repeated on the internet without much verification. I grew up in a rural farming community where just about everybody had a .22 rifle in their truck. I've been shooting them for over 40 years and have not had any greater amount of problems with rim fire than I have had with center fire ammo.

I see threads all the time where someone has had a bad experience with a certain brand of firearm and they start trashing all of the companies products. You can and will get lemons with guns, ammo, or anything else made by human hands. Don't mean they are all bad.

If the .22 was as bad as some would like to write about it ~ it would have long ago disappeared.

 

[jimmyraythomason]

the whole hoopla about .22 rim fire being unreliable is an idea that feeds on itself and is repeated on the internet without much verification

My own experience is all I need to determine the reliability of my arms and ammunition(and THAT was developed LONG before the internet existed).

I've been shooting them for over 40 years and have not had any greater amount of problems with rim fire than I have had with center fire ammo.

40 years + for me too and I have experienced ONE centerfire (7mm mag)fail to fire and countless rimfire failure to fires.

 

[PRM]

My own experience is all I need to determine the reliability of my arms and ammunition(and THAT was developed LONG before the internet existed).

No one said you did not have a right to your opinions. If it works or doesn't work for you... Thats your call.

I have experienced ONE centerfire (7mm mag)fail to fire and countless rimfire failure to fires.

With that kind of luck ~ I'd quit using them. Personally, if I have had countless failures, I would move on to something else. Again, your call.

 

[jimmyraythomason]

right to your opinions

Opinion has nothing to do with performance. I love my .22lr and .22 mag rifles. A fail to fire is a fail to fire and isn't subject to opinion.

if I have had countless failures, I would move on to something else. Again, your call.

What I did about it was quit buying bulk ammo. The fact that it is rimfire ammo is not the problem. It is the cheap and dirty ammo that always seemed to fail.

 

[PRM]

You may have had more than your share. I havn't. I will even agree that some ammo is better than others ~ even in rim fire.

What I have a issue with, and I am not directing this statement at you ~ is that a lot of individuals on this and other forums make a lot of statements and repeat a lot of statements with nothing to back them up.

Got misfires?

1. Lets talk about the type or brand of ammo.
2. Powder used in the cartridge, if known
3. Firearm it occurred in
4. Condition of the firearm (apparent defects)
5. Maintenance of the firearm (how dirty) (how many rounds
fired since it was last cleaned.)

Now we are starting to get to something of benefit, rather than they just stink.

I have a Remington Nylon 66 and a Marlin 60 that work like Timex watches. I also have a Beretta 21A that works great up to about 100 rounds, then you need to run a patch through it or you will get a FTE (no extractor).

As far as a failure to fire ~ I shoot mostly Federals and have had very few problems.

 

[Onmilo]

I just had a batch of CCI Mini Mags give me some function and misfire issues in a couple of .22 semi auto rifles.

I have always found Winchester Super X and T-22 cartridges to be the best sure firing cartridges in the widest variety of guns but not always the most accurate choices.

 

[saltydog452]

In a previous life, I found that Remington had more squib loads and Federal had more duds.

In competition, a dud will get you a refire. A squib could cost 10 points. CCI Mini-Group was a good comprimise.

Mini-Mag wasn't awful.

salty

 

[jimmyraythomason]

As far as a failure to fire ~ I shoot mostly Federals and have had very few problems.

Interesting. Federal was the brand I had the MOST problems with. I say HAD because I no longer use federal rimfire ammo( I love their centerfire ammo though). Until recently I had no FTFs with CCI Minimags(I'm pretty sure the gun is at fault here). Weaker ammo fails to fully function my Browning Buckmark resulting in jams. This ammo seems to work better in revolvers. It is simple for me. Some ammo works for me some doesn't. I no longer waste money on what doesn't work. It has nothing to do with opinion or internet lore. It either works or it doesn't.

 

[DNS]

I've been a huge rimfire shooter for close to thirty years. All I can say is the failures I've had are 99.99% of the time firearm light strikes and not ammo issues. I've only had two actual failures and both were case/rim seperation on ignition. We're talking tens of thousands of rounds btw.

I honestly believe most people don't know how to fix light strikes or are to lazy to send back a firearm and just chalk it up to a "cheapness". Then they get on the computer and report what a flaming turd "Brand X" ammo or firearm is.

Btw, at the range i find light strike .22lr all the time. I gather it up, wipe it down, and at the end of the range day shoot in my revolver.

'Spy

 

[jimmyraythomason]

I honestly believe most people don't know how to fix light strikes

In my case you would be mistaken. I know how to determine a light strike. In the case of the CCI Minimag failures I referrenced it is light strikes. A dud is a dud and easily determined by the deep firingpin mark on the rim. It also will fail to fire if tried repeatedly(some do,most some don't). Dirty guns,weak striker springs and worn firing pins can all cause light strikes but it generally occurs regardless of ammo brand(with some exceptions).

 

[Carter]

I usually only get bulk packs, and there are always numerous duds. The "match" bulk packs seemed good though. CCI is also great for reliability.