Rock Star David Crosby busted with Gun Weed

[J Jones]

At least he got the right caliber.

 

[Sylvilagus Aquaticus]

When he was arrested and served time as a guest of the State of Texas it was because he had a 1911 and drugs left behind in his travel bag in his dressing room at a gig.

Some folks just don't learn. I always thought it was a waste to give him that new liver.

Regards,
Rabbit.

 

[Andrew Rothman]

I guess you do have to at least acknowledge that he is consistent.

And nuts. We all know this definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

Hmmmm.....

 

[HunterGatherer]

Folks on this forum SAY they'll fight the government, SAY they'll stand up for their rights, SAY they'll defend with their very lives their right to keep and bear arms and live their lives without government interference and all the while mock, belittle and make sport of guys like Crosby. Is he stubbon, no doubt. Is he misguided, some might say so, is he stoned...so what if he is. At least he's walking the walk, not just whacking on a keyboard while loading up on Shiner Bock. Flame away.

I can't speak for others here, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if a great many of do more than "SAY" the above.

Speaking only for myself:

1) Fight against government intrusion into our human rights... hmmm... let's see? I'm politically active (have even held elected office), I am a local (and to a lesser degree statewide) activist, so I'll give myself a CHECK in that box.

2) Stand up for rights? See above. Oh, and I also volunteer 2-300 hours a year as an N.R.A. Instructor, Certified N.R.A. Range Safety Officer, Friends of N.R.A. committeeman, WA Hunter Ed. Instructor, American Legion Officer... ad nauseam

CHECK.

3) Defend it with my very life? Lessee? Oh yeah, I remember now. On my 17th birthday I swore an oath on my sacred honor to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, and among other things, to defend it from all enemies, foreign and domestic.

CHECKEROO!


I guess the question is whether or not I have ever "walked the walk" of being an anti-American, pro-communist dictator(s) scumbag dope-addict, who has self-righteously destroyed his own internal organs (ultimately stealing a perfectly good liver out from under some poor unfortunate soul - on a waiting list - that probably never did much in the Bacchanalian Amoral Orgy of Death department), all while leaving pistols and illegal drugs around, and spouting "For me, but not for thee unenlightened peasants!!!"


Pheewww! Guess I dodged a bullet on that one.

 

[Duckdawg]

What the heck is an Illegal Hunting Knife??? You mean there are places in the USA where you can't carry a hunting knife? How the heck can you gut your deer, rabbit or squirrel? Huh?

That makes no sense. Oh, wait, its New York

 

[gunsmith]

He's a felon!

Marijuana may be a benign drug. It is an illegal drug
and as far as I know a federal felony. (to have both weed and gun that is)

The veteran rocker had checked out of the hotel after the Manhattan show, but left behind a piece of luggage, police said. A hotel worker found the luggage Friday and went through it looking for identification and discovered the marijuana, gun and knives and called authorities, police said.

So it looks like he was checked out of the hotel and the bag wasn't in his room anymore,IANAL but it looks like a good enough bust to me.

He was also charged with illegal possession of a hunting knife and illegal possession of ammunition _ he had three magazines with a total of 26 rounds _ and illegal possession of about one ounce of marijuana, which was found in a wooden box. He faces up to seven years on the gun charge if convicted.

Probably illegal for junkies to own hunting knives and hollow point ammo (just guessing) it is NYC not much hunting there unless you prefer small game like rats

detoxing during a stint in a Texas prison for drug possession

detoxing during a stint in a Texas prison for drug possession
HE is a dang felon! how on earth did he get a gun?
aren't there laws against that?
He is a liberal,felon,junkie,in possesion of illegal drugs and firearms and he wanted Dean for pres, is against peons like you owning AR15's and has alot of wealth and influence to use against your rights while running around stoned out of his mind leaving his gun and weed in a dang
hotel lobby.
If you did that you would get an excessive bail,Crosby won't even spend the night in jail and will beat the charges because the liberal NY justice system has no problems with rich wealthy liberal junkies violating the law, only has a problem with poor hispanic old grocery store clerks defending their lives
"Teach Your Children Well"

 

[idd]

I guess the question is whether or not I have ever "walked the walk" of being an anti-American, pro-communist dictator(s) scumbag dope-addict, who has self-righteously destroyed his own internal organs

First, I don't really think that that is the question.

Second, Crosby was an anti-American pro-communist? Why? Because he sang against the Vietnam War? By than standard, so was Johnny Cash (who could probably hold his own with Crosby in the substance abuse department).

Doesn't matter. In a truly free society Crosby would have every right to peacefully carry in his luggage a knife, handgun, ammo, or weed without being jammed up by the 5-0. Who here hasn't had a brainfart and walked off without something important at least once in his life? Since he did walk off without his firearm, he deserves a good slap of reality. A misdemeanor conviction, fine, and a short probation would probably fit the crime. A felony conviction and denial of freedom in the graybar hotel would not.

In the coming days, advocates of the war on drugs will link arms with advocates of a war on guns, quiver in righteous indignation, and in a spirit of zero tolerance, will demand Crosby's head on a plate. After all, society must send a message "for the children..."

We've turned into a country of snitches and statists where no one is allowed to mind his own business. That's nothing to cheer.

 

[idd]

[Marijuana] is an illegal drug and as far as I know a federal felony.

Simple possession of hemp is not a felony under federal law.

detoxing during a stint in a Texas prison for drug possession HE is a dang felon! how on earth did he get a gun?

Strike two.
Crosby was put into the Texas State Penitentiary for a one year until his conviction was overturned on appeal.
http://www.mugshots.net/david_crosby/

 

[J Jones]

I guess I'll go with idd on this. Whatever the man's conviction status, felon or otherwise, the only objection I have to him is the idea that he seems to have that some guns are "bad" yet others are good, all from a man who believes that a gun is merely a tool. One could infer that he believes that he is a special class and the objections he voiced don't apply to him.

One could point out that, AFAIK, he's non-violent and his crimes were those of having and using an illegal substance. He has never sold this substance, only used it himself, and certainly not to his benefit (though alcohol, a legal drug, is surely responsible for his liver damage), so who did he really hurt and why does he give up his right to self-defense?

 

[son of a gun]

 

[gunsmith]

idd

Sorry,I forgot to edit post...what I meant was it is a federal offense to posses both a firearm and an illegal drug, i.e weed,hemp,whatever.
I hate that weed is illegal,even though I think it is a stupid drug and am glad I don't smoke it any more.

Sure, in an idea world we would all be able to leave our .45's in the same bag as our ganja,weed,whatever- and dumb hotel clerks would mind their own business.

But you know,I sure aint crying any tears for friggin Crosby.
He was content to raise money for all kinds of liberal nazis determined to strip all minorities of their 2nd amendment rights.
He has no problem with rich white liberals carrying .45's but let some
poor old black guy in Harlem shoot a mugger trying to steal his social security check (true story btw) never!

I only hope he has to sleep in the same bed he helped perpetuate,but I doubt it.
I would bet he is out on bail and still hates Bush,the NRA, the GOA
and wants Kerry AWB for president

 

[HunterGatherer]

why does he give up his right to self-defense?

I guess the point of Mr. Crosby's situation is too hard for people to grasp.

The point is why does a drug-addled bozo - who doesn't think that "there is any need for anybody to carry a gun in public" - get a pass from people like you? He actively (through the commie rat organizations that he supports/raises money for/etc.) works to deny our right to defend ourselves. *** part of that don't you get?

First, that is in fact the question.

Second, not simply because he "sang against the Vietnam War", but rather because he sings the praises of the likes of Uncle Ho, Chairman Mao, Tio Fidel, and other commie rats.

Doesn't matter. In a truly free society Crosby would have every right to peacefully carry in his luggage a knife, handgun, ammo, or weed without being jammed up by the 5-0. Who here hasn't had a brainfart and walked off without something important at least once in his life?

That's where you and your ilk get it wrong every time. It does matter. Every time Crosby opens his yap to speak out politically, he speaks in favor of those who take away our RKBA. Never once have I heard of him supporting any candidate/cause to the contrary.

Now that a leftist elitist has found himself the victim of the gun grabbers that he advocates for/gives money to/fundraises for, fellow leftists like yourself come out of the woodwork to say that those laws need not apply to an elitist.

Why am I never surprised?

We've turned into a country of snitches and statists where no one is allowed to mind his own business. That's nothing to cheer.

I'm sure you refer to statists like Mr. Crosby.

DC: No, I don’t think there is any need for anybody to carry a gun in public. I don’t think there’s any need for anybody to own automatic weapons, I don’t think that – that you are a responsible human being if you leave guns around where kids can get to them. And, I think we have a problem in this Country with the culture surrounding violence. Our culture applauds violence, it wallows in violence, and that’s not good in a country with this many guns around. ‘Cause kids get given the wrong message. They think its all ketchup and the guy gets up again. They know you can shoot the lights out, they don’t realize you can’t shoot the lights back on. So, there’s a real problem there.

But he gets a pass on his leftist statist beliefs, because he is, if nothing else, doing it for the "kids". Awwww... isn't that sweet?

As Standing Wolf so often (and so correctly) says: Leftists are moral and intellectual parasites.

 

[son of a gun]

28 Mar 1982 David Crosby arrested for quaalude possession, driving under the influence of cocaine, and carrying a concealed .45 pistol.
Dec 1985 Sentenced to Texas State Prison in Huntsville for possession of cocaine and weapons violations.
Aug 1986 Released from prison.

The People v. David Crosby

Folkie David Crosby and buddy Carl Gottlieb tell us in the 1988 book about Crosby’s continuing battle against drug addiction, Long Time Gone. The story is sad, and although many people know that Crosby has extensively battled his addictions, seeing in black and white the sheer magnitude of the problems they caused is horrifying.
David Crosby is a sick man.

His co-authored autobiography freely admits this illness. Crosby goes so far as to include extremely unflattering medical records and admits to breaking many more laws than conceived by the most vigilant of law enforcement officers. Weapons and drug charges were Crosby’s typical offenses, although he details breaking so many other laws that one imagines a lifetime of incarceration had the attorneys doubtlessly assured him that he was beyond arrest.
http://www.consumerhelpweb.com/books/bcrosby.htm

 

[The_Antibubba]

Good Thing he wasn't caught in Kanada

The pot wouldn't be a problem, and as a liberal, American celeb, they'd probably fine him heavily, confiscate it, and send him home.

But knives!!! Holy cow, doesn't he know what the Kanadians think of knives??

Gives me chills, just thinking about it.

 

[Darrin]

A .45, a hunting knife, and an ounce of pot...? Sounds like half the people I know...

Yeah, I know folks like that too...

 

[jsalcedo]

Hey, I resent the tone of this thread.

I am also battling an addiction to .45's

 

[gburner]

Son of a Gun,

I'm not advocating or justifying anything, foolish or otherwise. I cleary stated at the beginning of my post that I was playing DEVIL's ADVOCATE
in order to get folks to look at all sides of this issue.

If anyone is giving the anti's ammo it's you with your red highlighted knee jerk, paranoid reaction.

Try the decaf and remember that this is a discussion board. I was attempting to engage in a discussion based on how we as a group percieve and relate to the recent buffoonery of another celebrity caught in gun related legal entanglements. Geez, some people.

PS: Gunsmith, Graham Nash wrote 'Teach Your Children'.

 

[pax]

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[J Jones]

I guess the point of Mr. Crosby's situation is too hard for people to grasp.

The point is why does a drug-addled bozo - who doesn't think that "there is any need for anybody to carry a gun in public" - get a pass from people like you? He actively (through the commie rat organizations that he supports/raises money for/etc.) works to deny our right to defend ourselves. *** part of that don't you get?

First, that is in fact the question.

Second, not simply because he "sang against the Vietnam War", but rather because he sings the praises of the likes of Uncle Ho, Chairman Mao, Tio Fidel, and other commie rats.

What exactly are "people like you"?

Do you mean people who believe a man committing a "crime" that only hurts himself should retain their second (and any other amendment) amendment rights?

I don't care for the man's hypocrisy or politics, but neither of those are enough to deny him his right to means of defense (nor are "crimes" against his own body). You are hypocritical in your own right, thinking that a man with whom you disagree is entitled to less than his full measure of the constitution.

He gets a pass from "people like me" because there isn't a single VALID law I can think of that he violated. You might make a case for treason, but let him be charged first.

 

[idd]

The point is why does a drug-addled bozo - who doesn't think that "there is any need for anybody to carry a gun in public" - get a pass from people like you?

He doesn't "get a pass" from me. I pointed out his hypocrisy and said he should face criminal charges for walking off without his firearm.

David Crosby: "My idea of a really good benefit would be to do something for Médecins Sans Frontières or Relief or somebody that’s trying to feed or give medical help to people who are dying. Or to do stuff for children, which is what Nash and I both really love to do. Now, we do other ones, we do, we’re gonna one this fall for a rape crisis center ‘cause that’s a really good thing to do.

BP: Is that the Grace Foundation?

DC: Yes."

Raising money for charity work, medical care for sick and dying people, rape crisis centers, autistic boy scouts, the Dream Foundation (which grants wishes to terminally ill adults). What a commie rat this guy is!

but rather because he sings the praises of the likes of Uncle Ho, Chairman Mao, Tio Fidel, and other commie rats.

Cite, please.

fellow leftists like yourself come out of the woodwork to say that those laws need not apply to an elitist.

First, HunterGather, your ad hominem is not appreciated. (It's a sign of intellectual laziness.)
Second, I never said "that those laws need not apply to an elitist." (I am not sure how you managed to miscomprehend my words so terribly.)

The victory dance here over Crosby's bust is reminiscent of the liberals’ glee over the revelation of Rush Limbaugh’s drug addiction and possible indictment. "Oh boy oh boy, that guy whose politics and personality I don't like is in trouble and I'm loving it!" It's called schadenfreude.

My opposition to the war on drugs and the war on guns is principled, not selective. The laws should be changed so that neither leftwing rock singers nor rightwing talkshow hosts not bodega owners nor any adult should ever fear an arrest for possessing a handgun or "controlled substances."

 

[rick_reno]

Crosby busted with gun and weed

He's got two possible defense strategies

1. He argues he's been too much spending time with Ted Nugent.
2. He states that he's been looking for a new liver and the gun/knives are tools to help him harvest one.

 

[Don Gwinn]

ONE more personal post and this one goes away.

 

[cratz2]

Since this thread has become so 'heavy', thought I'd lighten it up a little bit...

Crosby made a celebrated comeback in the mid-1980s after beating a 20-year drug addiction, detoxing during a stint...

I think it was Dennis Leary that said, 'back in the seventies, detox meant you quit doing coke and went down to a bottle a day of Jack... you could still have all the beer and pot you wanted!'

 

[son of a gun]

This says it all

His co-authored autobiography freely admits to breaking many more laws than conceived by the most vigilant of law enforcement officers. Weapons and drug charges were Crosby’s typical offenses, although he details breaking so many other laws that one imagines a lifetime of incarceration . http://www.consumerhelpweb.com/books/bcrosby.htm

May be the people who support him can convince him to run for president of the NRA !

 

[J Jones]

Or Smith & Wesson.