Rock Star David Crosby busted with Gun Weed

[HunterGatherer]

Raising money for charity work, medical care for sick and dying people, rape crisis centers, autistic boy scouts, the Dream Foundation (which grants wishes to terminally ill adults). What a commie rat this guy is!

Now, we do other ones, we do,

(8/7/00, 6 p.m. ET) - It seems Al Gore has the beat Americans want from their government--from rock musicians, anyway. A host of artists--including Eagles Don Henley, Timothy B. Schmit, and Glenn Frey, as well as Jimmy Buffett, Lenny Kravitz, Macy Gray, Sheryl Crow, Bette Midler, Crosby*, Stills & Nash, and Jon Bon Jovi-- have signed on to perform at a New York fundraiser for the Vice President. The concert, scheduled for September 14 at Radio City Music Hall, will raise money for the Democratic National Committee and Gore's bid for the presidency.

Over the years, Henley has become something of a political activist, speaking out for various causes and about issues in our country that he feels need to be addressed. He told LAUNCH what he thinks about the state of politics today. "The world could use a lot of improvement," said Henley. "You know, it's funny--we don't have the Russians to kick around anymore, so the Cold War has become more insidious and more inward. The Cold War is in Washington now: It's partisan politics, Republicans and Democrats fighting like petty schoolboys."

-- Sue Falco, New York Got news tips, comments, or questions? Send them to [email protected].

Just one Democrat fundraiser of hundreds over the decades. But as I said earlier, you, and other defenders of Mr. Cosby will gloss over this.

My opposition to the war on drugs and the war on guns is principled, not selective. The laws should be changed so that neither leftwing rock singers nor rightwing talkshow hosts not bodega owners nor any adult should ever fear an arrest for possessing a handgun or "controlled substances."

I'm trying to remember what Rush Limbaugh has been arrested for... Oh! That's right! NOTHING!


*For those who might "miss" it.

 

[HunterGatherer]

What exactly are "people like you"?

I guess I would start by describing them as people who think that because they don't believe in a particular law or laws, that somehow they don't exist. People who think that a person that spent his entire (alleged) adulthood working for the very people who created those laws, gets to walk away from the consequences of said laws unscathed.

As soon as Mr. Crosby agrees to do a fundraiser or three for Chucky "AWB" Schumer, and Hitlery "Burnin' Down Yo' House" Klinton, you'll get your wish.


It will be as though Mr. Crosby had never been arrested.

 

[J Jones]

People who think that a person that spent his entire (alleged) adulthood working for the very people who created those laws, gets to walk away from the consequences of said laws unscathed.

Pardon me if I'm wrong, but Nixon pretty much started the WOD and Reagan escalated it and Bush I topped it off with a "Drug Czar," IIRC; Clinton merely continued what he perceived to be a good public relations ploy, which, coincidentally, deflected scrutiny from his earlier "inhalations." Do you mean to say Crosby is really a Republican agitator?

Crosby, or any other American, whatever their politics, SHOULD get to walk away from the consequences of stupid, harmful laws designed as a sop to the police and feeble-minded busybody voters. The only wrong I can see here is that Crosby will likely get preferential treatment, when all those others so accused should walk too.

There are plenty of unenforced, patently silly laws still on the books, in addition to many of questionable ethical or moral principle. I suppose that we would still be following Jim Crow laws if no one disobeyed them to make a point.

 

[gburner]

My point made...

The same folks who castigate folks like Crosby and his stand on substances are the same who SAY they would take the same stand on weapons...who's the pot here and who's the kettle?

 

[son of a gun]

If only the guns could talk, did DC shoot, threaten, rob or kill someone ?
After his first prison term for weapons charges, why did he feel it's imperative to carry another gun ? It's not like he couldn't get an armed bodyguard who might even guard him for free. Do you think he's mentally ill and that's why?

 

[gburner]

Your taxes pay for you to have an armed bodyguard called the local police...
are you satisfied with that?
Neither personal wealth nor alleged criminal behavior/background are valid reasons to infringe 2A.

 

[thumbtack]

who's the pot here and who's the kettle?

I will be the pot as long as Crosby is not around.

 

[son of a gun]

Your taxes pay for you to have an armed bodyguard called the local police...Neither personal wealth nor alleged criminal behavior/background are valid reasons to infringe 2A.

You have to ask are people that lose and misplace there pistols really up to the responsability it demands to carry ?

I would say the danger in DC's case of being caught as a repeat weapons offender and getting a 20 year sentence at Riker's Island would by far out weigh the dangers of not carrying an illegal gun. Especially when your in the cell bent over or on your knee's with your new "Daddy"

Since I was able to get a ccw legally and don't break laws I don't think I'm asking to much for others to do the same.

I don't under stand why you still advocate that criminals deserve 2nd amendmant rights, that the US judicial system revokes from Felons.
DC's has got to be the worst poster child to advertise your crusade for criminal rights.
Would you allow these criminals to carry guns while in Prison ?

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DC co-authored autobiography freely admits to breaking many more laws than conceived by the most vigilant of law enforcement officers. Weapons and drug charges were Crosby’s typical offenses, although he details breaking so many other laws that one imagines a lifetime of incarceration . http://www.consumerhelpweb.com/books/bcrosby.htm
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[idd]

HunterGather, get a hold of yourself! Your tone makes you sound like one of those shrill regulars over at DemocraticUnderground.com.

Just one Democrat fundraiser of hundreds over the decades. But as I said earlier, you, and other defenders of Mr. Cosby [sic] will gloss over this.

Let me 'splain it in terms so as you can understand it. David Crosby is not above the law, he should be treated the same as any of us non-celebrities, and he does not get a pass from me.

Is this part clear?

Having said that, I would like to see us live in a country where it is not an offense to possess a handgun, or an ounce of weed, or a knife.

he sings the praises of the likes of Uncle Ho, Chairman Mao, Tio Fidel...

We still await any evidence for this. (Unless you were just making it up...)

 

[J Jones]

I don't under stand why you still advocate that criminals deserve 2nd amendmant rights, that the US judicial system revokes from Felons.

Drug possession doesn't rate as a crime for me, any more than alcohol or tobacco possession. When he commits a real crime, then we can reconsider his 2nd amendment rights. I also question whether non-violent offenders should permanently be denied their full civil rights.

 

[son of a gun]

J Jones

Drug possession doesn't rate as a crime for me, any more than alcohol or tobacco possession. When he commits a real crime, then we can reconsider his 2nd amendment rights. I also question whether non-violent offenders should permanently be denied their full civil rights.

You think people on coke, Meth, PCP or Acid should be allowed to Pack ?


What about previous weapons charges and driving intoxicated on Cocaine ?

Crosby said

28 Mar 1982 David Crosby arrested for quaalude possession, driving under the influence of cocaine, and carrying a concealed .45 pistol. Dec 1985 Sentenced to Texas State Prison in Huntsville for possession of cocaine and weapons violations.
Aug 1986 Released from prison.

http://www.consumerhelpweb.com/books/bcrosby.htm

What about people who admit to being Mentally ill ?


Crosby said

The story is sad, and although many people know that Crosby has extensively battled his addictions, seeing in black and white the sheer magnitude of the problems they caused is horrifying. David Crosby is a sick man.

http://www.consumerhelpweb.com/books/bcrosby.htm

 

[HunterGatherer]

We still await any evidence for this. (Unless you were just making it up...)

The second half of the 1960s, and the entirety of the 1970s should suffice for anyone who was there and paying attention to Mr. Crosby's political rhetoric. If that still isn't enough, there is also 9 tenths of the 1980s, of course much of the 1980s was spent in a booze/drug coma (of a sort) for Mr. Crosby, and therefore he didn't spout quite as much marxist garbage at that time.

 

[J Jones]

You think people on coke, Meth, PCP or Acid should be allowed to Pack ?

No more than when under the influence of alcohol. Next.

What about... driving intoxicated on Cocaine ?

DUI is a misdemeanor, AFAIK. It certainly shouldn't be a felony unless it contributes to death, injury or felony level property destruction.

What about previous weapons charges?

I don't know TX law, but most states rate possession of a concealed firearm as a misdemeanor (anything more seems a bit much), but I'm sure this has changed since this was before TX had CCW. If his firearm possession charges stem from also possessing controlled substances, then I consider these contrived, particularly if possessing alcohol with a firearm wouldn't carry the same penalty.

All in all, no one has ever accused Crosby of violence, to my knowledge, nor have they accused him of misusing his weapon. He is certainly negligent about keeping track of it, though. Hence, I'm not seeing the problem, unless we're going to be sticklers for violating bogus laws that have no victims, at least none other than Crosby and his internal organs.

What about people who admit to being Mentally ill ?

It need not be permanent. If the state was worried about this, then he should've been commited to psychiatic care.

 

[HunterGatherer]

What exactly are "people like you"?

I forgot to add to the definition those who base their arguments on what couldawouldashouldabeen.

 

[son of a gun]

idd

We still await any evidence for this. (Unless you were just making it up...)

Stand and Be Counted: Making Music, Making History: The Dramatic Story of the Artists and Causes That Changed America
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...search05/104-5619313-4782335?v=glance&s=books


idd

,Let me 'splain it in terms so as you can understand it. David Crosby is not above the law he should be treated the same as any of us non-celebrities, and he does not get a pass from me.

His Attorneys sure think he's "ABOVE THE LAW" and there the experts when it comes to the law.

His co-authored autobiography freely admits this illness. Crosby goes so far as to include extremely unflattering medical records and admits to breaking many more laws than conceived by the most vigilant of law enforcement officers. Weapons and drug charges were Crosby’s typical offenses, although he details breaking so many other laws that one imagines a lifetime of incarceration had
the attorneys doubtlessly assured him that he was beyond arrest.
http://www.consumerhelpweb.com/books/bcrosby.htm

 

[HunterGatherer]

Pardon me if I'm wrong, but Nixon pretty much started the WOD and Reagan escalated it and Bush I topped it off with a "Drug Czar," IIRC; Clinton merely continued what he perceived to be a good public relations ploy, which, coincidentally, deflected scrutiny from his earlier "inhalations." Do you mean to say Crosby is really a Republican agitator?

As far as I know, THR is a gun board. Personally I couldn't care less about, or frankly for, those who do drugs, or for those who find drugs to be an important part of their lives.

I was refering (as you well know) to Mr. Crosby's lifelong "agitation" for left-wing gungrabbers.

 

[idd]

The second half of the 1960s, and the entirety of the 1970s should suffice for anyone who was there and paying attention

I wasn't there, and I really haven't paid much attention to David Crosby, but I do read history, and but if there is a record of his singing the praises of Ho, Mao or Castro, then I'd like to see it. Admit it: you made up the bit about Crosby singing "the praises of the likes of Uncle Ho, Chairman Mao, Tio Fidel..." It's just an accusation without evidence that you plucked out of thin air.

OK, so DC did fundraisers for Al Gore. Al Gore is not Fidel Castro, and it doesn't give you license to libel.

What about previous weapons charges

Getting charged with a crime does not and should not affect your RKBA. A final conviction is important, not an arrest, a charge or a conviction that was vacated. As was related earleir in the hread, his conviction in Texas was overturned on appeal.

His Attorneys sure think he's "ABOVE THE LAW" and there [sic] the experts when it comes to the law.

You really think that his attorneys made or will make that argument before the court? "You Honor, my client Mr. Crosby is above the law, and that's why he had some weed and weapons."

Weapons and drug charges were Crosby’s typical offenses, although he details breaking so many other laws that one imagines a lifetime of incarceration had the attorneys doubtlessly assured him that he was beyond arrest.

First, the sentence itself doesn't make sense. Second, notice the use of the subjunctive "had." Third, we really do not know what kind of legal advice Crosby's attorneys gave their client.

 

[J Jones]

As far as I know, THR is a gun board.

Civil rights and guns. We do seem to be in the wrong section.

 

[gburner]

The issue here folks, is not David Crosby, nor is it weapons or drug possession. The issue is how long Americans are going to tolerate an ever increasingly intrusive government interfering unconstitutionally in our private lives.

There is NO constitutional basis for infringements on firearm possession nor is there a constitutional basis for the governent having 'legal' control over what we can or can't possess; can or cannot put in our bodies.

 

[son of a gun]

 

[harpethriver]

What are the chances DC's atty. knows how to say "Your Honor, motion to dismiss as this was an illegal search and seizure". I'm not taking sides, and we don't know all the facts, I am just pointing out what seems to be the logical next step. Remember the Warren Zevon song "Lawyers, guns and money"?

 

[son of a gun]

gburner

The issue here folks, is not David Crosby, nor is it weapons or drug possession. The issue is how long Americans are going to tolerate an ever increasingly intrusive government interfering unconstitutionally in our private lives.

Sorry but your wrong the article was posted to point out David Crosby was arrested for possesing an unregistered gun and 1 ounce of dope, if it was anything other than that the moderator woud have moved it to Legal and Political forum.

 

[son of a gun]

What are the chances DC's atty. knows how to say "Your Honor, motion to dismiss as this was an illegal search and seizure". I'm not taking sides, and we don't know all the facts, I am just pointing out what seems to be the logical next step. Remember the Warren Zevon song "Lawyers, guns and money"?

finger prints and him on the security camera carrying the suitcase. I bet we can watch it on court tv, if Dave doesn't OD and die before the trial.

 

[J Jones]

Who's Jane "Hanio" Fonda?

 

[harpethriver]

SOG-you miss the point. I'm betting that if his lawyer can convince a judge that DC's suitcase should not have been opened in the 1st place, then it won't matter if his prints are on it and his pics are on the security cam. I was sort of being facetious when I made this point anyway-who knows what will happen-especially since we don't know what really happened to begin with. But isn't it great to have all this idle time on our hands and be armchair attorneys and judges here in Murrica. Is this a great country or what?