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MrRezister
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How dedicated is Ron Paul to the idea of being frugal with the American Taxpayer's hard-earned money? He voted AGAINST awarding Ronald Reagan a congressional Gold Medal because it would cost the taxpayers $30k, Instead, he offered to donate $100 of his own money to the cause, and encouraged the other representatives to do the same. LINK
Maybe that's not as big a deal as it seems, but the sentiment behind that act is something that I think should be encouraged in our public servants.
Maybe that's not as big a deal as it seems, but the sentiment behind that act is something that I think should be encouraged in our public servants.
samtechlan
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Tonight on the Comedy Channel, Colbert Report - Ron Paul is the guest. June 13. In my central time zone it is at 7:30PM and again at 10:30PM.
Hope Dr. Paul can get a word in here and there between Colbert's humorous remarks. Given Dr. Paul's keen sense of humor, I suspect it will be a good show.
Hope Dr. Paul can get a word in here and there between Colbert's humorous remarks. Given Dr. Paul's keen sense of humor, I suspect it will be a good show.
pdowg881
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That's why I like daily show interviews better. Colbert really shoves so many jokes and wise cracks it's hard for the guest to be able to answer a question uninterrupted
Marshall
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MrRezister,
My apologies for not seeing your post until now. Thanks for the post and the time taken to explain. I can appreciate your thinking.
My apologies for not seeing your post until now. Thanks for the post and the time taken to explain. I can appreciate your thinking.
TrybalRage
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SnakeEater, I love that video.
"We're bigger than the internet! We're bigger than the internet!"
"We're bigger than the internet! We're bigger than the internet!"
samtechlan
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I thought that Paul did an outstanding job on the Colbert Report tonight. He's very relaxed but focused and comes across well.
pdowg881
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The raise your hand if this government organization (yes I know government organization is an oxymoron) should be eliminated part was funny. Especially when the irs was mentioned.
kcmarine
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Very well done on Colbert tonight. Seemed like the crowd liked him.
I am sure it will be up on youtube fairly quickly. It is also possible you might find reference to it at technorati.com in someone's blog.
The interview was short and quite humorous, while getting some basic points across. Ron Paul came across as very human, intelligent as usual, and as possessing quite a good sense of humor in a grandfatherly sort of way.
The interview was short and quite humorous, while getting some basic points across. Ron Paul came across as very human, intelligent as usual, and as possessing quite a good sense of humor in a grandfatherly sort of way.
nwilliams
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Ron Paul on the Colbert Report!
I just saw the Colbert Report with RP!
He was great! I thought he did even better than he did on the Daily Show! he was relaxed, took everything in stride and seemed to have a good time. Great responses from the crowd and he even Stephen seemed to get a kick out of him.
Besides Ron Paul that was one funny episode of the Colbert Report, god help us Bears and Robots!
That's a DVR recording I'm going to keep.
Hopefully between now and election time either Colbert or Stewart (or both) will get him to come back as repeat guest.
I just saw the Colbert Report with RP!
He was great! I thought he did even better than he did on the Daily Show! he was relaxed, took everything in stride and seemed to have a good time. Great responses from the crowd and he even Stephen seemed to get a kick out of him.
Besides Ron Paul that was one funny episode of the Colbert Report, god help us Bears and Robots!
That's a DVR recording I'm going to keep.
Hopefully between now and election time either Colbert or Stewart (or both) will get him to come back as repeat guest.
gengarnett
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Paul hurts this site, he does not help it
[IThe reason that he is getting so much support, is because he stands behind his opinions, no matter how unpopular they are. Americans are Getting tired of the Hillary Clinton's of the world, who say one thing and then vote differently][/I]
There is no doubt many here believe what Paul is saying. Yet it is funny, he has been in Congress 20 years and run for president before. Yet all of a sudden "gun nuts" discovered him and now he is our king lol.
The reality is, Paul will be gone in a month or two. Paul can't get past 1 or 2 percent in the polls. I in no way want to demean the beliefs of others on this site. However, I think The High Road has lost credibility over the entire pauliac thing. The point of this site was we would speak in a friendly manner to each other and take "the high road". Do you guys think Paul fanatics have acted this way, in a gentlemanly manner?
The fact of the matter is Paul will not win anything. Will we still be arguing over him when that happens? Will we still be talking about how America brought 9/11 on itself? Will we still, gun owners and so called "conservatives" still be worrying about the world's perception of us? Just yesterday Newt Gingrich penned an article about how the Republican Party could learn from the French. How many know about the recent French elections and their ramifications? Do you think the French are worrying about international peception? Do you think they care what Oman thinks?
We are gun owners, and by joining this site we claim to take the high road. I am not trying to paint all Paul supporters and loonies. I really do not think that is true. But Paul will go down, sooner rather than later. He is not a serious candidate and he has no serious plans to guide the US through these troubled times. But more than that, as I stated above, I think the High Road would have been better served if Paul had never run.
your mileage may vary. Peace.
[IThe reason that he is getting so much support, is because he stands behind his opinions, no matter how unpopular they are. Americans are Getting tired of the Hillary Clinton's of the world, who say one thing and then vote differently][/I]
There is no doubt many here believe what Paul is saying. Yet it is funny, he has been in Congress 20 years and run for president before. Yet all of a sudden "gun nuts" discovered him and now he is our king lol.
The reality is, Paul will be gone in a month or two. Paul can't get past 1 or 2 percent in the polls. I in no way want to demean the beliefs of others on this site. However, I think The High Road has lost credibility over the entire pauliac thing. The point of this site was we would speak in a friendly manner to each other and take "the high road". Do you guys think Paul fanatics have acted this way, in a gentlemanly manner?
The fact of the matter is Paul will not win anything. Will we still be arguing over him when that happens? Will we still be talking about how America brought 9/11 on itself? Will we still, gun owners and so called "conservatives" still be worrying about the world's perception of us? Just yesterday Newt Gingrich penned an article about how the Republican Party could learn from the French. How many know about the recent French elections and their ramifications? Do you think the French are worrying about international peception? Do you think they care what Oman thinks?
We are gun owners, and by joining this site we claim to take the high road. I am not trying to paint all Paul supporters and loonies. I really do not think that is true. But Paul will go down, sooner rather than later. He is not a serious candidate and he has no serious plans to guide the US through these troubled times. But more than that, as I stated above, I think the High Road would have been better served if Paul had never run.
your mileage may vary. Peace.
nwilliams
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gengarnett......
I agree with you Ron Paul may not win and may very well not make it much longer in the running.....
However he is a voice of reason in some dark times we are living in and the principles he stands behind are ones that many people on here support. There's nothing wrong with showing your support for someone even if they may not win.
When election time comes around we will have to choose and my fear is that our choices are going to be very limited and we will all have to make some tough decisions that we may not like. Until then if people on here want to support him and believe in the principles speaks about, then why not?
Your points are made well and I agree with what you are saying, he has an uphill battle to fight and although I support him, that doesn't mean I think he will win. However as long as we have a candidate that is at least somewhat respectable, why not let people back him?
I don't think the Ron Paul supporters on THR are saying that we all have to support the guy, I think he's popular on here because many of us respect the things he stands for. He's a very strong supporter of the 2nd and that alone will make him popular on here, whether or not he will win is irrelevant this early in the game. Until he drops out of the race I don't see anything wrong with showing some support, but I respect your opinion, we're all entitled to one on here.
-Nate
I agree with you Ron Paul may not win and may very well not make it much longer in the running.....
However he is a voice of reason in some dark times we are living in and the principles he stands behind are ones that many people on here support. There's nothing wrong with showing your support for someone even if they may not win.
When election time comes around we will have to choose and my fear is that our choices are going to be very limited and we will all have to make some tough decisions that we may not like. Until then if people on here want to support him and believe in the principles speaks about, then why not?
Your points are made well and I agree with what you are saying, he has an uphill battle to fight and although I support him, that doesn't mean I think he will win. However as long as we have a candidate that is at least somewhat respectable, why not let people back him?
I don't think the Ron Paul supporters on THR are saying that we all have to support the guy, I think he's popular on here because many of us respect the things he stands for. He's a very strong supporter of the 2nd and that alone will make him popular on here, whether or not he will win is irrelevant this early in the game. Until he drops out of the race I don't see anything wrong with showing some support, but I respect your opinion, we're all entitled to one on here.
-Nate
gengarnett
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nwilliams
that is a very well stated and heartfelt post. Please understand, I am in no way saying it is "wrong" to support any candidate. I do not know if this matters or not, but I am a self described libertarian conservative, liberty means a hell of a lot to me as I am sure it does to you.
I was really referring to what I have seen as the heavy handed tactics of some Paul supporters. There have been some awfully angry posts on this board from Paul supporters. Aslo, I have seen Paul supporters anger the left and right on various blogs. There have been accusations of cheating on internet polls etc. Again, I am not attacking anyone, but if you check various political blogs, both left and right, Paul supporters have found a way to anger almost everyone, this is no winning method.
My problem with Paul is I do not think he is fit to lead our nation in a time of war. I love his ideas about the Second Amendment and reducing the power of the Federal Government. I think Paul has some great ideas, I certainly want him to remain in Congress. However, I just do not believe he is fit to lead this country in a time of war. His fanatical adherence to the libertarian philosophy does not allow pragmatism nor leeway when facing difficult situations. Can you see Paul ever working with Congress to craft a good, but not great bill? Can you ever see him bending on anything?
My biggest problem with Paul is that he basically refuses to admit the War on Terror is real. Like many presidents, if he were elected, he would be shown the facts and possibly change his positions. However, how can any educated American still believe isolationism is even a possibility in this day and age?
I do not want to go through all the policy differences here. I just think the "Paul phenomenon" has in many ways weakend this community. Paul supporters are so rabid, but can they explain why even self described pro 2A libertarians are against him? I know at times are field looks poor, but I just think Paul has left the reservation. And my main critique is not Paul, it is the heavy handed tactics of some of his supporters.
Anyway, I hope we all can come together as gun rights activists and proud Americans. This site will go on long after Paul is out of this race.
that is a very well stated and heartfelt post. Please understand, I am in no way saying it is "wrong" to support any candidate. I do not know if this matters or not, but I am a self described libertarian conservative, liberty means a hell of a lot to me as I am sure it does to you.
I was really referring to what I have seen as the heavy handed tactics of some Paul supporters. There have been some awfully angry posts on this board from Paul supporters. Aslo, I have seen Paul supporters anger the left and right on various blogs. There have been accusations of cheating on internet polls etc. Again, I am not attacking anyone, but if you check various political blogs, both left and right, Paul supporters have found a way to anger almost everyone, this is no winning method.
My problem with Paul is I do not think he is fit to lead our nation in a time of war. I love his ideas about the Second Amendment and reducing the power of the Federal Government. I think Paul has some great ideas, I certainly want him to remain in Congress. However, I just do not believe he is fit to lead this country in a time of war. His fanatical adherence to the libertarian philosophy does not allow pragmatism nor leeway when facing difficult situations. Can you see Paul ever working with Congress to craft a good, but not great bill? Can you ever see him bending on anything?
My biggest problem with Paul is that he basically refuses to admit the War on Terror is real. Like many presidents, if he were elected, he would be shown the facts and possibly change his positions. However, how can any educated American still believe isolationism is even a possibility in this day and age?
I do not want to go through all the policy differences here. I just think the "Paul phenomenon" has in many ways weakend this community. Paul supporters are so rabid, but can they explain why even self described pro 2A libertarians are against him? I know at times are field looks poor, but I just think Paul has left the reservation. And my main critique is not Paul, it is the heavy handed tactics of some of his supporters.
Anyway, I hope we all can come together as gun rights activists and proud Americans. This site will go on long after Paul is out of this race.
Titan6
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Gengarnett- Like many people you see what you want to see. There have been many dishonest straight up attack threads on Paul launched from this forum and others.
Paul bothers the republican main stream because he is a reminder of the hypocrites who say they are for small government; and yet greatly expand it. Say they are for freedom; and yet greatly curtail it. Say they are for rule of law; and yet support a AG who barely understands the law. You get the idea...
This is a problem for the party and may well cost them the election. One of the ways they try to mitigate this is to launch smear attacks against Paul to discredit him. If Paul supporters are vehement in defense it really has a lot to do with how vicious the attacks are.
Paul bothers the republican main stream because he is a reminder of the hypocrites who say they are for small government; and yet greatly expand it. Say they are for freedom; and yet greatly curtail it. Say they are for rule of law; and yet support a AG who barely understands the law. You get the idea...
This is a problem for the party and may well cost them the election. One of the ways they try to mitigate this is to launch smear attacks against Paul to discredit him. If Paul supporters are vehement in defense it really has a lot to do with how vicious the attacks are.
pcosmar
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Doubt it. And I respectfully disagree with much of your post.
I think Ron Paul is the right man at the right time.
He is the man to lead us OUT of war. This one and others.
I believe that most of the reports of spaming are false. it was a way to explain away his unexpected popularity. And that support is growing daily.
Much of the "hatred"is just a response to misinformation and attacks. People are speaking out in response to the treatment Dr.Paul has been getting.
I believe he can win the primary and the election. I hope so.
I am working to make that possible, as are others, rather than sitting back and accepting whatever candidate the MSN gives us.
MrRezister
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Likewise here.
I could reasonably be accused of having been overly enthusiastic in my support for Dr. Paul. And I don't mind - because enthusiasm is something that's hard to come by in politics, at least for me. It's been easy for me to get into the rut of voting for the least bad over and over again. But in Dr. Paul, I found someone who truly believes that the government should have less power. Over my money, over my life. Maybe it's a function of my youth and inexperience, but I feel like this is a genuine rarity among Presidential candidates.
If I've ever come across as a zealot, it may just be because I get offended when I'm reminded that this guy is unelectable. It's not fair, and I'm pissed off about it. He should be electable. People should want to be out from under the thumb of the Executive Branch and the Federal Reserve. People should want to not have to worry if they will be called and enemy combatant if they ask too many questions. People should know the difference between isolation and non-intervention. But I keep getting reminded that they don't.
Sometimes I forget that Paul can't possibly win because he's a nut. The reason I forget is because unlike some of the top-tier candidates, he's not an environmental nut, or a big welfare state nut, or even a kill all terrorists nut. He's a freedom nut. So if he's gone crazy, then at least he went in a general direction that I'd like to follow.
I don't mind being unrealistic in my choice for President, because I don't particularly like reality the way it is now, and I'd like to see it changed. So I'll keep supporting Ron Paul with my time, my words, and my heart.
DigitalWarrior
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I was a the Republican debate in NH. I was holding a sign for Dr. Ron Paul. With 299 of my closest friends. We had more people than any three other candidates. And I really suspect that some of the others were paid to show up.
One thing to keep in mind with the polls is that the Exit Polls (and those were a lot closer to the ballot casting than these polls are) showed a result that did not appear in the vote count.
A funny idea: DRRP's supporters are technology nerds and fanatical. This fact combined with electronic voting could have interesting results. If RP wins, we wouldn't know if it was the machines being attacked or not.
DW
One thing to keep in mind with the polls is that the Exit Polls (and those were a lot closer to the ballot casting than these polls are) showed a result that did not appear in the vote count.
A funny idea: DRRP's supporters are technology nerds and fanatical. This fact combined with electronic voting could have interesting results. If RP wins, we wouldn't know if it was the machines being attacked or not.
DW
xd9fan
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sweet
xd9fan
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Couldnt agree more.
Again dont blame conservatives for wanting someone who stands for principle. The other nine represent the party that left us first.
Gengarnett you remind me of CampDavid(another poster on THR)
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