Rossi Circuit Court Judge (merged threads)

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nicksterdemus, good one, had to think to remember the GTO Judge.
454 Casull would be quite the trick, I'd like to see that. They already make the Raging Judge in 454/45/410, why not the Raging Circuit Judge? That one would be better called simply the Judge Roy Bean...
 
Were it not for the popularity of the 45/410 we wouldn't be at this juncture.

I gotta give credit where due.

Here come da Judge, here come da Judge.

I also like that Rossi offers a rifled or smooth brl.

I would definitely buy one if offered in the 32 gauge.

Then, other companies would want to jump on the bandwagon and offer various forms of 32 gauge offerings.

The Circuit Judge release official kicks off my, Bring Back Da 32 Gauge, campaign.

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28 gauge-32 gauge-.410
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The 32, what the 410 always wanted to become...
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Dare we knight it, The Hanging Judge?
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The Beretta Buntline/Stampede Carbine, in 45 Colt w/18" brl w/buttstock, leftovers are being hawked for 589 clams.
 
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Taurus owns Rossi and has for a couple of years, a long gun based on the old sharps revolving rifle, neat toy but it's going to be pricey.
 
It would be better chambered in .38-55 Winchester. The cylinder is certainly long enough and the .38-55 operates at a low 30,000 CUP; much less than the 5-shot .44 Mag that uses the same diameter cylinder as the Judge. Of course, then some fool would stick a .375 Winchester in it, blow his face off and have his family filing suit against Taurus.
 
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It would be pretty cool, have more utility and fit into more of niche in .357 Mag or maybe even in .44 Mag. I'd also want it to have a 16" barrel and a slightly more compact design. I think it would make a handy HD carbine in this configuration.

Maybe something like this (sorry for the quick low quality photoshop):

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I did finally think of a reason for this thing to exist. It's the kind of thing that sells as a rule-beater in areas with especially goofy and restrictive gun laws. Back in the days when there were no gun laws beyond local carry prohibitions, revolving long guns were tried and discarded. I can't help but think that was because other designs were better.
 
At first I thought, "I want one of those." but then I thought "why?". A .410 Mossberg pump would do the same thing cheaper, so the only advantage was the use of .45 LC. I don't need to start another collection of ammo, so, no thanks. (now if it shot 45 ACP, then.....)
 
this is interesting, everything ive seen photo wise this week from shotshow was the circuit judge was going to be a semi auto shotgun in .410 that could take .45 colt cases. seen one photo that showed a magazine tube that stopped halfway between end of forestock and the muzzle.
 
This might make a good survival type gun. It wont take down to be compact but I dont think thats an important trait in a survival gun. You've got 410 for small game and 45 for large game or defense.
 
Its really cool BUT i think it will pattern horribly with the rifled barrel and shoot .45s really poorly out of the smoothbore (and probably pattern poorly too because of the cylinder choke). Also, I can't see the double action trigger being much fun in a rifle and it looks from the grip angle that single action will be awkward.

If it were free I might take one but otherwise, no thanks.
 
I'll have one as soon as I can find one to buy. I think one of the most attractive things about it is that so many people who don't have one (or a regular Judge) think it is worthless and ugly. Neat, that makes it easier for me to find one.
This should be the perfect small critter/ATV gun for me. And, it will look great with my Judge. :)
 
According to Rossi's marketing agency, the Circuit Judge won't be available until October/November.
 
Does anybody know how it loads? does the cylinder come out on the left or is it break action. I think i may be the former but I'm unsure.


Sorry for the thread resurrection.
 
Seems to me like the smoothbore version would make a great base gun for an NFA conversion, either an AOW or SBS. The AOW would essentially be a Taurus Judge without the rifling and with decent patterning. The SBS would just be a handy way to squeeze 5 rounds out of a really compact .410 shotgun . . . can't do that with a pump, auto, or lever-action.
 
Topic, rise from the dead!

I would be all over this as a .454. Yeah, it's a completely redundant in design, but efficiency isn't exactly the point here. I like my multi utility guns and .45/.410 just rings that for me. Add in some casull and i'll throw them any money they ask just for the sheer ***/uniqueness.

But .410 for self defense... that's just silly. You have .45 utility so you might as well use it (unless you're concerned with over penetration issues). Snake killin' and clay pidgeon depopulation, on the other hand :D

One thing I have noted about the re-engineered Rossi/Tarus rifles is that they seem to do a decent job correcting the weaknesses of the original designs (the thunderbolt and r92 .454 as an example), so I'd probably end up giving them the benefit of the doubt with this one too.
 
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Panzercat, I wouldn't mind seeing this in a .45-70Govt. (AKA: BFR), the scattergun aspect doesn't interest me much (at least not chambered for .410cal.).

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I saw one of these today at the Dick's Sporting Goods in Florence, KY. An employee was showing it to another customer at the firearms counter. It looked kind of cool, but the price was $599 I think, which is way too much IMO.
 
...price was $599 I think, which is way too much IMO.
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Yeah, Bud's has it listed at sub-$500.00USD delivered, and even if your dealer charges a ridiculously high transfer fee that still leaves enough for a couple boxes of .410cal. shells and .45LC to go with it.

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Tom Givens did a shooting test of this strange creature. No bueno p'nada. The shot spreads out rapidly, and the pistol bullets don't group worth a hoot.

Pretty much a "Why bother?" waste of money.
 
Isn't this thing technically a shotgun, offered in rifled or smooth bore; no different than putting a fully rifled slug bbl on a pump or semi auto shotgun (except you're stuck with one or the other, permanently affixed)?
 
But really, why would you opt for smooth bore on this thing at all? I mean, just the idea of .410 slugs makes me laugh, let alone sabot'd rounds when you have .45 to fall back on. .00 and .000 buck are all center-lined down the barrel in that diameter anyway, so I'm mystified. :scrutiny:

Oh, just for giggles, a youtube clip showing the action
 
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Academy had this listed in the Sunday sales ad as everyday $469.99.

On their websight they say that the smoothbore version will not fire 45 Colt.

Have they disabled the ability for shooting a non-rifled bullet?

Do they fear vilgilante hit men swarming the streets/drive-bys w/untraceable boolit?

The 45 w/rifling isn't that accurate so when the price drops to around 400 clams I might be moved to buy one except I want a smoothbore for the pattern & still wish to shoot 45 Colt for fun.

Geeze Louise, I couldn't hit much @ any distance w/iron sights & vaquero loads anywho...
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EDIT: I can't find the reference, so maybe my mind is playing tricks on me, but I read somewhere that smoothbore would only shoot .410.
Can't remember where & it certainly wasn't dream.

W/30-30s under 4 bills I'm still hard pressed on this buy at the current price.

Maybe a black Friday sale...
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Found my source though I can't vouch for the accuracy of the smooth bore shotgun only.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2010/02/09/taurus-rossi-circuit-judge/

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After contacting Academy Sports & then confirmed through Braziltech the smooth bore version, though shown & "offered" in the catalog, is not being produced by Rossi.

Something along the lines of barrel length and being designated a 45 rifle as opposed to a .410 scattergun according to customer service.

The fine folks at Academy were only delivered one judge apiece, yet one gent in the sporting goods dept. said that some type of choke attachment was provided for use w/pellets.

The gun was long since sold and he was relying on memory.

Hopefully someone will provide a review soon to establish whether the broad side of a barn can be hit w/45 Colt and provide pellet patterns that exceed point-blank range...
 
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