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Rossi R92 lever action .357 is back

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by lionking, Sep 12, 2019.

  1. lionking

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    Tested it today, used Fiocchi 142 gr jacketed. Sorry to say after 16 rounds it jammed, round is stuck half way out of the feeding tube into the receiver, lever cocks back 25% then is frozen. Never took apart a lever action before gonna have to figuire this out. I cannot recommend Rossi though, seems the stories of jamming is true. Either I'll get it fixed or down the road get a Henry or Marlin
     
  2. gotboostvr

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    Never had a jamming issue with mine, but a buddies Marlin had the same debilitating jam you describe once upon a time.

    Be careful when taking it down, the bottom of the reciever is VERY sharp on every lever gun I've taken down. Ran a cloth along the ridge and it cut through both the cloth and my thumb on both a Marlin 336 and my Rossi.
     
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  3. czhen

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    Sorry to heard that, I wonder about the sprint coil tension, action or the plate/lifter (just for clarifications not an expert here), any cleaning and oil before shooting)

    czhen
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  4. Bfh_auto

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    Remove the mag screw in the front and catch the cap and spring as it flies apart. This should relieve enough pressure to get it out. If you need to go deeper, watch several videos and read an instructional first. It saves headache.
     
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  5. Dave Markowitz

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    A friend bought one on Saturday. Fit and finish are good but the action is stiff. It'll work in with use and I referred him to Steve's Guns for tuning tips and parts.
     
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  6. lionking

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    will do thanks
     
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    I've found replacing the ejection spring with this one reduces the effort to work the action and drops empties at your feet, rather than launching them.
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Century-Sp...520469?hash=item2ef320fad5:g:yYwAAOSw-itXsijJ
     
  8. peacebutready

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    The 16" barrel one gives a higher velocity than the 18" or 20" ones with factory ammo. Fellas, am I correct about that?

    There are gunsmiths who tune Rossi rifles into nice running rifles.
     
  9. lionking

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    Maybe there is, but fact is a rifle new in box should function fine as is. It might not run like a knife through butter but should function. I took a chance, Rossi let me down. At least others now have fair warning.
     
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  10. Bfh_auto

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    Try running rnfp or round nose ammo before you right it off. I've never heard of running tcfp and in a lever gun, so I can't say if it caused the malfunction. But rnfp is usually the ammo if choice for then.
     
  11. czhen

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    I was aware of the risk when ordered my Rossi. Taurus, is under my understanding a hit and miss,
    I did not get mine yet but there is a bunch of well knowledge smiths that can work on a 100 years rifle.
    Btw, what did you try 38 or 357 ammo.
     
  12. lionking

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    I have only tried Fiocchi .357 142gr FMJTC so far. I managed to get it sighted in pretty much at 100 yards then the 16th shot crushed my happiness.
    https://www.sgammo.com/product/357-...box-357-mag-142-grain-fmjtc-ammo-fiocchi-357f

    I haven't written it off, I want to love this gun. However disappointed yes I am. Just bothers me that a gunsmith or personal TLC is needed to make a new gun function correct with just factory FMJ ammo, it shouldn't have to be that way.

    As it stands right now I suggest others pay more for a Winchester or Uberti or Marlin or wait for Henry to come out with a side loading gate rifle if a tube loading mag bothers them.
     
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  13. czhen

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    Sad true my friend, it wont surprise me if they use same spring in all rifle lengths or unappropiate springs.
    I would try .38 cal first 1 or 2 boxes then the 357.
     
  14. Janos Dracwlya

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    I have a Rossi in .357 that I bought (lightly) used about twenty years ago. It has always run very well, with the only problem being that it doesn't feed - without working the bolt really hard - most semi-wadcutters.
     
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  15. lionking

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    Tried hard, screw is so tight won't move, taking it to the gunsmith so there is a extra $50 to $100 into a new gun off the bat. Almost ready to trade it in take a hit get a couple hundred for it and buy something else.
     
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    Do you have a soldering iron, it would burning iron?
    Another option is to tap on the screw driver before trying to turn it.
    The screw for the cap is so small that I didn't think it could lock that tight.
     
  17. lionking

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    Ok just took it to my local gun store down the road, they helped me get it fixed (gave a twenty as a tip), they have a range indoor had him test fire six rounds it's working fine again so far. My friend WAS shooting it when it jammed, and he was new to shooting a lever, he may have loaded it or stroked the lever wrong causing the jam, so my frustration MAY be unfounded after all this.

    I'll take it out again and shoot when I have a chance and more ammo, will update you all it may turn out the gun is fine.
     
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  18. Bfh_auto

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    I hope you like it. Mine is very fun. I've never run a tcfp, but don't see why they wouldn't work.
    I have had no issues with rnfp, lrn, or swc.
    The rnfp were the most accurate.
     
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  19. lionking

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    Took it out today, tested 10 rounds of Fiocchi 142 gr and 158 gr. After 10 shots once again it had loading and ejection problems, and a piece of something broke inside tried to take a pic but can't get a clear close up. It still shot after that piece fell out from inside but I loaded it one by one not wanting to a jam I couldn't fix with multiple rounds still in it. It functioned by rough. I did the test at 100 yds 100_2750.JPG 100_2739.JPG 100_2738.JPG

    Still can't recommend one of these, pay more and get a Henry or Marlin instead. For now it is regulated to a range gun with wondering when it will lock up after each shot.
     
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    Rossi R92s may need a little TLC but a spring kit and a lil’ stoning brought my blued 16” .357 right up to snuff. Great shooter, short, light and handy. Bought it new almost five years ago.

    Be sure, as in all tubular magazines, to use a roll-crimped cartridge to prevent bullet setback. Neck tension in some commercially-loaded fare isn’t always what it should be.
     
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  21. SG1

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    Don't be discouraged. I believe most levers will jam at some point. Look up the dreaded Marlin jam.

    My personal opinion is that .357 is even more prone to jams in different lever guns. I could be wrong, but it sure seems that way.
     
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  23. lionking

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    Well I am a bit discouraged, it is the first gun I have ever bought that I'm seriously considering selling off. Ok so there are ways and videos showing how to make a Rossi run smooth, shouldn't have to be that way. I'm gone 11 hours of the day, just don't have the time or energy or the WANT to tinker . One thing to a get roughed up surplus and bring it back to life, another to buy a new in box gun and fail 20 to 30 rounds in.

    There is another thing, I have realized that it going to a be steel gong and paper target at the range type gun for me, I'm rethinking the loading gate vs tube mag of the Henry. It is a pain to load rounds into the loading gate having to push and press in, all my Winchester and this Rossi have been that way stiff to push in, my Marlin 30-30 the rounds slip in the gate with ease. So for my needs since I'm not gonna hunt with it and it is not a defense use rifle having to flip the rifle over and load the tube Marlin 60 .22 style might be better for me when shooting a lot at the range. So down the pike, my next attempt at a .357 lever is probably a Henry.
     
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  24. d'zaster

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    I'd say don't do it.....I bought a Rossi 92 16" about 6 years ago. It's the last Rossi I will ever own. Knew I was taking a chance based on the mixed reviews. Turned out to be an absolute POS - didn't run smooth, failures to feed, would not cycle 357, bead on the tip of the front sight was way off center....it was a fine example of poor workmanship, fit & finish and quality. I sent it back to Rossi and they had it for 4 months. The only thing they did was hone the throat to help it feed 357 poorly.

    But the story is not all bad - A THR member suggested I reach out to Steve Young in Texas. I bought his video, a few parts and slicked up the gun myself. Turned out to be a great learning experience but if I was doing it over, I'd get the Henry.
     
  25. RugerNo

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    You can not blame the firearm when you are using the wrong ammo to feed it. That Fiocchi ammo is not crimped to be fed in a levergun. It is shhootem up for revolvers. If you trry using uncrimpped ammo in any 45,357 ,44 you are asking for trouble. The case mouth catches the edge of the chamber, binds and fails to feed so the lever operater racks again and DOUBLE FEEDS a round and blames it on the gun and manufacturer for the jam. Taint so it is the nut running the lever. Use crimpped ammo and run the lever with authority. Remember the Mod 92 and clones were designed to run tapered or bottle necked cartridges. NOT STRAIGHT walled cartridges. Y nothingou have to cheat where you can and that means a taper crimp so the case mouth o.d. is inside the o.d. of the bullet. Nothing to snag on the edge of the chamber.
     
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