Ruger Blackhawk 357 vs Uberti

[jstert]

i would happily accept an uberti as a gift. i would happily buy a ruger.

 

[45 Dragoon]

I don't have a stutter. My post was very clear; the Uberti that supposedly competes with a Freedom Arms revolver.

Well, neither do I and like I said, theirs a picture parade of several that would stand it's ground with an FA.

One in particular would be my El Patron Competition (also identified and in the "parade") that I added a 45 acp cyl to. That revolver (made by Uberti) was fanned 100 times + daily for 2 1/2 + yrs., 50 cycles a day when it was just 45C. ( that is 50 cycles daily per cylinder). It was just my own version of a torture test. It never had a hiccup in that whole time (verifying my service for me as well as my customers).
Also any of my Dragoons or ROAs, any of the State championship revolvers I've made possible . . . I'm not being a smart a$$ but you asked and there are those that will see these words for the first time.

Manners go a long way towards getting information out of those that " know" to those that don't!!
Have a wonderful weekend sir!!!

Mike

 

[Apuesto]

theirs a picture parade of several that would stand it's ground with an FA.

Indeed. Well lets see if any can shoot < 1" at 50 yards and handle 50,000 psi 45LC loads like a FA does.

That revolver (made by Uberti) was fanned 100 times + daily for 2 1/2 + yrs.,

"Fanning" is your measure of a good revolver? Now THAT sure is funny.

Manners go a long way towards getting information out of those that " know" to those that don't!!

... but misrepresentations expose its author very quickly.

 

[Keith G]

I don’t really understand this Ruger vs Uberti thing. Sure, I guess Rugers can handle super hot loads, but I sometimes wonder how many Ruger owners are loading those on a regular basis, and why? I get it if you’re big game hunting with one, but I think that’s a very small portion of the owners. And then there’s this weird thought that Ubertis are somehow fragile. If a Uberti is marked .357 or whatever, you can be sure that it will easily handle a steady diet of off the shelf loads that it is rated for. I think they would run into legal problems very quickly if their revolvers were blowing up with factory loads, and it would be all over the internet. It isn’t. Sure, Rugers are built a bit stouter, but the reality is that most people don’t need that extra stoutness, myself included. A Uberti is built plenty tough for normal use, and if a spring breaks, well that’s an easy fix for most people that own a screw driver. And then there’s the “A Ruger will last a lifetime” thing. True, if taken care of, but on the flip side I haven’t heard of any Ubertis making their way to a landfill because someone wore one out. Bottom line, get the revolver that feels good in your hand, they’re both great guns.

 

[45 Dragoon]

Indeed. Well lets see if any can shoot < 1" at 50 yards and handle 50,000 psi 45LC loads like a FA does.

That would depend on the barrel section in the particular revolver which would /could vary considerably (especially in a mass produced item such as the Cattleman and it's variations. Much more volume than an F.A.). I'm sure most here understand that. As I said in my first post in this thread, "it may not handle " hot Ruger loads" ". . . = moot point. Never claimed that. I'm a tuner . . . Dave Clements would tell you even a F.A. wouldn't do what you claim which is one of the reasons why he won't work on F.A.s anymore. (I just had a conversation with him a couple of weeks ago . . . ).

"Fanning" is your measure of a good revolver? Now THAT sure is funny.

I can understand that you think it's "funny", but fanning is a sure way to wreck a S.A. revolver that isn't " up to the task" so to speak. Mine (meaning those I've tuned) can. Not sure I'd do it with a factory offering . . . even an F.A. . . .


... but misrepresentations expose its author very quickly.

Let's see, I've been here since 2013 and you showed up this summer. I think folks here know me and what I do. I don't say anything about my service that isn't true . . . I've been tuning race guns for CAS shooters for some time as well.

Don't really know what you're trying to prove here but it is entertaining . . .
I was taught by one of the finest S.A. tuners that ever lived and hopefully I'll live to make a mark in the gun world that is worthy of his teaching.

There's an old saying, "look before you leap".

Mike

 

[Apuesto]

I don't say anything about my service that isn't true . . .

And yet you said "$225.00 is an inexpensive way to make a $500-$600.00 (cheaper if you buy used) revolver into one that can compete (and more than likely best) a $1,500.00- $2,000.00 S.A. revolver." which is just patently false. Your mods won't make an Uberti match a FA, and anybody who has owned both will know it all too well.

Don't really know what you're trying to prove here but it is entertaining . . .

I don't need to prove a thing. I haven't been making claims that I can't prove. You are the one making outlandish claims and rather than admitting you're exaggerating when called on it, you choose to double down. So ok, now I'm calling you on it - show us your guns out perform an FA. Come on big guy, the onus is on you. Show us that your guns are more accurate than an FA. Show me your guns can handle the same loads as an FA.

But you won't ...

 

[45 Dragoon]

apuesto, apparently you can't read. What did I say about handling "hot" loads ? Never claimed anything of the sort!! Just the "durability" of. Come on . . . the onus is on you "big guy (lo!!)!!

What do you have that I've done? What model F.A. do you have? You've seen my pics, where are yours? You, sir , are the newby here. Lol!!


Mike

 

[ontarget]

I don’t really understand this Ruger vs Uberti thing. Sure, I guess Rugers can handle super hot loads, but I sometimes wonder how many Ruger owners are loading those on a regular basis, and why? I get it if you’re big game hunting with one, but I think that’s a very small portion of the owners. And then there’s this weird thought that Ubertis are somehow fragile. If a Uberti is marked .357 or whatever, you can be sure that it will easily handle a steady diet of off the shelf loads that it is rated for. I think they would run into legal problems very quickly if their revolvers were blowing up with factory loads, and it would be all over the internet. It isn’t. Sure, Rugers are built a bit stouter, but the reality is that most people don’t need that extra stoutness, myself included. A Uberti is built plenty tough for normal use, and if a spring breaks, well that’s an easy fix for most people that own a screw driver. And then there’s the “A Ruger will last a lifetime” thing. True, if taken care of, but on the flip side I haven’t heard of any Ubertis making their way to a landfill because someone wore one out. Bottom line, get the revolver that feels good in your hand, they’re both great guns.

Thank you and I've been saying this same thing for years.

If you want 44 mag performance buy a 44 mag. Don't try to run nuclear loads in your 357 to reach 44 mag performance and then complain that this or that piece of crap gun shot loose and went out of timing.
It doesn't matter if it's a Charter or a Ruger, Uberti, Smith, hell even a Heritage RR. Shoot what they are rated for and they will ALL last a lifetime.