Ruger Launches an LCP in .22LR

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Tallball said:
If you want to sell a whole bunch of handguns to the general public, you chamber them in 22lr, 38/357, 380, 9mm, 45acp... maybe 40 caliber.

IMHO, this would be "better" in 25acp or 32acp, but that's not going to sell tons and tons of guns, so that's not what it's chambered in.
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Now if only Ruger was an Austrian company* and intended to sell a ton of LCP IIs in Europe . . . 7,65 Browning would have probably been the first chambering. :D

*blasphemy!
 
Anyway, back to the LCP II in .22 LR. It was mentioned that it would be a great trainer for .380 LCP owners.

Considering the problems of long skinny .22s in a small handgun, an owner of this new LCP II would probably get sufficient amounts of tap, rack, bang training. That's not a bad thing at all as long as people go into a purchase knowing that. :)
 
ApacheCoTodd said:
reason some folks bought a Pinto instead of a Maverick, I guess.
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Fuel economy? Lol. I had three pintos... they just said mustang on the side. One has over 400k on it. Still got 34 mpg and I live in the twisty mountains where fuel economy is awful. Dad had a maverick. Inline 6 never hit 20mpg. Both were dogs on power. Lol

As far as the ruger I have the phoenix and a couple of the berettas and they have all been reliable. Might even have a j-22 but I won't admit to anything. Ruger makes what i feel is the best 22 pistol already in the mk series. What I'd like is a decent and affordable double action 22 revolver. I love the S&W k-17 but I hate to hunt with it. What if the bluing gets a scratch. So I grab an ugly gun like a 22/45 or Neos or instead. Ruger should scale down the redhawk, and make us a hunting/ target DA 22. 9 shot cylinder like the old H&R... maybe more. Throw in some pot metal if they must since that's the trend but I prefer not. Call it a redhummingbird or redrobin. Idk.
 
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chicharrones said:
Anyway, back to the LCP II in .22 LR. It was mentioned that it would be a great trainer for .380 LCP owners.

Considering the problems of long skinny .22s in a small handgun, an owner of this new LCP II would probably get sufficient amounts of tap, rack, bang training. That's not a bad thing at all as long as people go into a purchase knowing that. :)
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According to Ruger the barrel tilts to improve feeding characteristics and improve parts commonality. I don't know for sure but am assuming the frame for the .22 is identical to the frame for the .380.

Maybe ignition reliability could be improved with a heavier hammer and/or stronger hammer spring. Since Ruger is calling the .22 a "lite rack" pistol I doubt we'll see anything changed that will make the slide more difficult to retract.

Anyway, outside of duds I imagine the Ruger will be pretty reliable. Is a misfire the fault of the gun or a problem with 120 year old cartridge tech? Maybe a combination of both in which case my theoretical hammer spring upgrade might help.

Paging Wolff or ISMI...
 
460Shooter said:
LOL! Yes! I always wondered what it would be like to wave a computer mouse sized gun around with a Coke bottle attached to it.

Would be pretty funny to try out.
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Looks like Ruger has dropped the SR-Silent or whatever they were calling that rimfire suppressor. Maybe an LCP with threaded barrel could re-energize their suppressor market?
 
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And holds the same number of rounds in a package 1/4 the size nearly.

And this coming from a Glock person.
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As a fan of small barrel pistols and revolvers, actually the Glock has much more appeal to me, and I am not a Glock Fan. Do not have anything against them or for them one way or the other. I could care less about the round count. 10 rds is fine. As I mentioned, I love shooting the Phoenix with 10rd and the LCR22 which by the way only has 8 rds. Regardless are not if I am a Glock fan, they are made of Quality. And from every thing I have seen on the Glock 44,it is quality. And Glock is making some big statement about their gun being totally reliable. In fact they say it will eat any ammo, where the Ruger advises to only shoot hi-velocity ammo. Why? At that cost it should eat any thing, I have very nice reliable small pistol trainers.
If I am going to spend the money of over 3 hundred dollars, it better shoot any ammo. Not just hi velocity and it better be reeking of quality.
Here is the Glock receiver, now I hope to compare the Ruger to it in the future. I think the 44 will be my next firearm purchase.
And for gosh sake, WHY IS RUGER ONLY GIVING ONE MAGAZINE. Add the cost of a MSRP of $399 plus one more mag and what do you come up with?
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Watch video for quality etc.

 
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Maybe but people are also wanting a threaded glock 44 and I've seen supressors on the tip up berettas so people do actually so it. I doubt a puny 22 could overcome the extra weight/leverage on the barrel. Most are fixed threaded barrels
 
As someone who owns, and loves, the HP22a, HP25a, KT32 and the original LCP I am interested in this new Ruger 22.
I love the .22LR round for many reasons and I love the mouse guns.
However, I will wait for the beta testing to conclude and for the price to get much closer to $200 before I buy one.
$349 is a bit ridiculous, IMO.
 
larryh1108 said:
As someone who owns, and loves, the HP22a, HP25a, KT32 and the original LCP I am interested in this new Ruger 22.
I love the .22LR round for many reasons and I love the mouse guns.
However, I will wait for the beta testing to conclude and for the price to get much closer to $200 before I buy one.
$349 is a bit ridiculous, IMO.
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While I am not a LCPll fan, I am a avid small barrel Pocket gun, Micro 9mm believer. I do think is is GREAT that Ruger has made the effort to take one of their flag ship guns and made it into a 22.cal.So many People buy these guns and quite frankly cannot shoot them worth a hoot. And most of them when they do shoot them, treat them like target guns. Not only will the 22.cal get them into more shooting of the Pocket gun, but greatly improve their skill level. Pocket gun IMO have always been greatly under appreciated. And if you are going to carry one then you owe it to yourself to learn to shoot one well.
In this regards I give a big high five to Ruger for developing their new trainer. If I did own a LCPll, I would make the investment, once the price comes down. And not to forget that Ruger does have great CS.
 
460Shooter said:
LOL! Yes! I always wondered what it would be like to wave a computer mouse sized gun around with a Coke bottle attached to it.

Would be pretty funny to try out.
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I had one back in the day for my Beretta 950. Now, I have a Cobray fake suppressor that still works pretty neat.

Felt very Man From Uncle-ish.:thumbup:

Todd.
 
Jeb Stuart said:
I had many LCP's. Back when I shot them, I commented many times that I wish Ruger would make a 22.cal version. That was when I had the GEN 2. I left Ruger when the LCP ll came out and moved on to other Pocket guns with better quality. And I was not about to carry the LCP ll with that trigger. Now if the LCP22 had the GEN 2 trigger, a nice DAO rather than the LCPll trigger I would consider it right now. For one thing, the gun in 22,cal would most likely hold up much longer than their 380 which for me, was not a gun for a lot of range time.
And with a MSRP of $349, there is no way I would spend that much. Yes, it would go down below that, but only by a certain percentage. But it would have to go down to around $175 or $199 to consider it. (and again, only with a GEN 2 trigger.
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If your concern is the trigger is too light and you're afraid it's dangerous, the .22 LCP has a safety on it.

Yeah, I know, I know if it's for a defensive gun, it shouldn't have a safety. Look, this is going to be a range trainer for those with an LCP II and a pistol for elderly or hand/wrist injuries that mandate lowest recoil possible. For those two purposes a safety is just fine.
 
TTv2 said:
if it's for a defensive gun, it shouldn't have a safety.
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If it is a defensive gun it SHOULD have a safety. Anything that might be carried in a jacket pocket or purse/backpack, etc should have a safety.

Seen the gizmo or widget that replaces the striker plate on the Glock? The idea is to place the shooting thumb on the plate while re-holstering. The plate will hinge away from the slide if there's anything interfering with the trigger.

Or you could just switch the safety on and reholster that way...
 
Boarhunter said:
Guess I am in the minority here, but I like the concept and will probably add one to my collection.
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Me too. I like what I am seeing.

USBP379 said:
According to Ruger the barrel tilts to improve feeding characteristics and improve parts commonality. I don't know for sure but am assuming the frame for the .22 is identical to the frame for the .380.
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USBP379 said:
If it is a defensive gun it SHOULD have a safety. Anything that might be carried in a jacket pocket or purse/backpack, etc should have a safety.
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If you read those links posted early on you will see that the Ruger 22 shares a lot of parts and design with the 380 version. And it does have a manual safety. You just have to read the reviews.
 
Ratshooter said:
If you read those links posted early on you will see that the Ruger 22 shares a lot of parts and design with the 380 version. And it does have a manual safety. You just have to read the reviews.
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I'm well aware of what the review says.
 
Walmart took away all the handgun ammunition except for …… 22 long rifle.

just a thought,

murf
 
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