Ruger M77 Hawkeye - QQ Major issues

Have you had these issues with your M77 Hawkeye?

  • Yes, I have the same or similar issues

  • No, I do not have any of the above issues


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All of ruger’s products have always been rough around the edges in terms of fit and finish. They are what they are. I would be very disappointed with the stock fitment. I would probably fix whatever of the casting flash I deemed unattractive myself. Anyone that says ruger revolvers or rifles are inferior in strength due to being investment cast is an idiot.
 
You clearly don't like the rifle. Right or wrong, having a rifle you don't like isn't worth it.

I'm not sure what it's like to sell a rifle in 'Straya, but might be worth looking into.

Or shoot it and see if you love it. I have a crappy mosin m44 that is ugly as sin, but once I start in with it at the range, it just feels so right

Go round and round on here about how you hate it isn't going to fix your problem.
 
The "more comlicated and intricate" design of the 98 action, I purchased a CZ 550 Ebony 3006 new last month for $1700AUD. Talk about detail, perfection - all forged. So more effort was put into the excellent high gloss finish with no machine marks, perfect stock fit with a beautiful piece of timber. All for $1700aud.

CZ discontinued the 550 because they were too expensive to manufacture, and that is with cheaper Czech labor rates.

As far as the Hawkeye, I have a blued/walnut Hawkeye in .30-06, made in 2021, that I think is quite nice for the money - but I only paid $875 USD for it. The rough cast surfaces are what they are - the outside of the gun is pretty nicely finished so they don't really bother me, and as others mentioned the Hawkeye action with the single piece bolt and bolt handle is as strong or probably stronger than most currently produced bolt actions. The bolt travel will become a lot smoother with use. The wood to metal fit around the receiver is better on my rifle.
 
I hope they fix or refund.

Does anyone have a wobbly bolt when fully locked?
 
is your stock fit like mine?

No. It looks like it was made to fit. Keep in mind, mine is synthetic. Overall I am very happy with my purchase. My Ruger 6.8 was a disappointment. Accuracy was not on its list of qualities. I fixed it myself with aftermarket. Now it’s great. My Mini 30 that wouldn’t digest steel case ammo. Again fixed with an aftermarket firing pin. I did have a 10/22, plan to get another. I gave mine to my son. Got all nine 22’s out. Left the room. Said, “take what you want, and leave the rest”, he took the Ruger.

I also have a mini 14, and a Deer Stalker. No other Rutgers. Like any maker, there is good and bad. Just the stains on you stock would aggravate me. You pay a lot and that payment doesn’t include funds to return to the factory for repair. Like the Henry pump I have sitting in the basement awaiting me waiting in line at UPS.
 
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I've only had two M77s, a GSR and an African, latter was nicely finished, the former was like your specimen. Live and learn I guess, I wouldn't buy another M77 and it sounds like you shouldn't either. They were budget rifles at one time that have been thoroughly undercut by better rifles in my opinion. I'd pick any one of the rifles in your list over the M77 for your next go round (except the CZ, haven't had any experience with the 600s), personally I'd go with a Tikka or X-Bolt....Howa for the budget option or M70 for the CRF option.
 
My 10 year old GSR's bolt handle looks like the OPs, which I honestly don't find to be a problem. Bolt slop? Yep, it's a loosey goosey bolt when cycling, but not when locked closed. Which I've always heard is normal for the Rugers. The rest of this particular laminated stock GSR is fitted and finished very well.

My Ruger Single Six and Bearcat made around 10 years ago . . . those I had to clean up, tune up, etc. Cylinder chambers with tool marks not allowing proper loading or unloading being the worst problem on both.

My Ruger Single Six made in the 1980s and my Ruger GP100 made in the 1990s made it out of the factory in really good shape. The first one bought in nearly unfired condition, the second one bought new.

But I will say that on both my Single Sixes that the painted cast aluminum grip frames do not blend in to the cylinder frame well. It would seem only the stainless guns are fitted properly there.
 
My 10 year old GSR's bolt handle looks like the OPs, which I honestly don't find to be a problem. Bolt slop? Yep, it's a loosey goosey bolt when cycling, but not when locked closed. Which I've always heard is normal for .

Yes, bolt slop on 98 actions is normal when cycling. But this has slop when locked. If its locked and i hold the bolt from the top i can wobble it. Ally other bolt guns incl the 98 actions once locked down theres tension in the bolt and its very tight. Might be normal for these guns i dont know what would even cause that
 
Recently handled 3 Ruger bolt guns, all new. None of them exhibited the poor finish that yours has. I would contact Ruger, they will make things right. As far as investment cast goes,as mentioned before, Ruger has used this process since they opened their doors.
 
If i had those issues on a rifle that I paid as much for as you did, I'd be upset.

But i wouldn't pay that much for a Ruger Hawkeye. I'd actually like one, and could live with those issues. But that price is considerably higher than I'd pay unless it was something like a RSI in a cartridge I'm excited about.
 
Very little slop in the locked bolt on my GSR. My three Remington 700’s have more play. I checked them all just before tapping out this post.
 
I’ve had 3 M77 Rugers and all had better build quality than what I see in your pictures. I'd be a little disappointed at the price you payed for what you received, hope they make it right. My Hawkeyes action was rough at first but over the years it smoothed out nicely. All 3 Rugers shot great with zero problems. The first one I picked up because it looked great, the other two because they were a good deal. I only have the Hawkeye out of the three and have no plans to get rid of it. Good luck with yours!
 
Sorry "a rifle that is returned" - This is not possible. We have strict registration practices in Australia, a firearm that has been registered before shows on the rego history. This was a brand new firearm, from supplier, to dealer, to me. Paperwork show this.

They can not offer a replacement as supplier has no stock and they will receive it in about 1 year. So it will be repair or refund (our consumer laws allow them to repair if possible).

The stain across bottom of stock logo also just such a rough job. With everyone still mentioning that cast is just as good. I'll type this once more, cast is cost effective, this should allow Ruger to finish the rifle better.
And yes, cast is sufficient in strength etc - but those saying "as strong" no, not as strong as forged. Good enough yes, as strong as forged? No, definitely no.

I mean, you get into car modification communities and you will never hear someone saying cast pistons are as good as forged. Why do forged exist? Why are you limited with PSI when using cast pistons? Why do high output for displacement engines use Forged? Come on guys, yes cast is adequate - but it isnt "the same" or "superior" to forged. I'm not going to waste time arguing the earth is round.
Just a couple of questions; If the guns handle 65,000 psi rounds as made, isn’t that good enough? What are you shooting that requires greater strength than the maximum specs on the rounds the guns are chambered in? They’re proofed so they’re safe, like most bolt guns they will outlast you, your son and his son, and they work like any other standard bolt gun does.

I have have a little bit of experience with centerfire rifles, including a couple of Rugers (77 RSI in .243, and a No. 1 in .223.) I have zero fears of the action failing on either rifle. I shoot them like I shoot my other bolt guns, a forged CZ550 in 6.5x55, Rem 722 in .257 Roberts, Win 70 in 7mm Rem Mag, Weatherby Mark V in .300 Weatherby, and mil surps like the 98k, Enfield No,4Mk1, even a straight-pull Mauser 96 in .270. The initial manufacturing steps for the action of standard centerfire rifles are the last details I sweat when I buy.

We can conclude that you jumped through many hoops to buy a new rifle and it doesn’t meet your standards. Naturally you are peeved. Many, if not most of us who have bought guns have had a disappointing experience. I feel bad that you live where you have to go through all that, but it happens.

But you are going all over the place beefing about stuff that has been a business model of that gunmaker for over 50 years. A simple bit of pre-.purchase research would’ve let you know how the guns are made, it isn’t a secret. Because, honestly, casting or forging the base metal for the action and parts has absolutely zero to do with your legitimate issues about the cosmetics.

Since this is such a big issue for you, I seriously doubt you will ever be satisfied. IMHO, if it was mine I would chalk it up to experience and sell the gun so I can get one that won’t bug me every time I look at it.

Stay safe.
 
Re-visiting this thread, perhaps the reason the rifle was actually available was those who saw it in person had the same reaction as the OP. Hope the rifle gets refinished properly.

My newer 2019ish Hawkeye Hunter is a nice rifle. The bolt action was a bit rough initially but smoothed out quickly. It has casting areas which are visible but smooth. The lower edge of the ejection port is a little rough, like yours. But it didn't (and doesn't) bother me. Wood fits a bit tighter than yours. Rifle cost $950 USD. Shoots very well though.


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I have never been a fan of the Ruger 77 series. As someone said, Ruger has always been working class weapons, well engineered but not as nice looking as Winchesters and Remingtons back in the day and some say not as accurate. I have had and liked a few Rugers. A couple had issues that were fixed by Ruger. The ones I owned had been accurate, function well, and reliable. Looks I suppose are an acquired taste. I assume that you mean quality control, I think you mean nice fit and finish, polished etc. Sorry but not anymore. These days with ownership changes and cost cutting some brands are not what they used to be. Now my favorite brand of a little better than working class rifle is Tikka. If you can afford it Sako. Most of the popular brands now are cheaply made and ugly. But they, the beasties, also shoot better than the beauties of the past. Also quaity control as far as defects aren't as good anymore either. Browning still makes beautiful guns and I have heard that they shoot well too. I have a new model Browning A5 shotgun and it sure is nice. Now they are owned by Beretta.
 
Your stock fit is terrible, but it sounds like Ruger is going to take care of you. I think you had every right to send that rifle back to Ruger. I’m a fan of Ruger No. 1s, but my biggest issue with Ruger, including the expensive No. 1s, has always been the fact that their stock fitment is not great. I’ve never seen an M77 with stock fitment as poor as yours, but I’ve seen some that were not very good at all. I think once Ruger gets it back to you, and you are able to put some rounds through it, you may find yourself quite satisfied. I’ve always loved the feel of an M77.
 
I have told the story of my sons 1022 for christmas here. My mind says I will never ever own another Ruger product....however I really do want a 357 bolt gun, but I am not going to buy the Ruger. I have always said Ruger has great customer service because they need it.

Personally I see them on par with Hi point....only difference is Hi Point knows what they build, inexpensive firearms that just work, and if it does not work they will fix it. All that is the same with Ruger but the inexpensive part.
 
The stock fit is pretty bad and should be corrected. Everything else on the list of endless complaints is just wishing you could buy gold for the price of silver. Ruger makes a very solid and useful hunting rifle, but it will not ever compare favorably in cosmetics to H&H or new top-end Mausers.
 
I can't remember exactly what year (post 2010 at least) I bought it but I paid less than $500 for my Hawkeye--.30-06 stainless synthetic-------it's accurate enough, 1in to 1.5in groups and hell for stout ----- I don't use it much mainly because of weight but it's not going anywhere either. I use my X-bolt .270 mostly--lighter weight----but if it's going to be really nasty out, the Ruger gets the nod.
 
I have 3 M77s, all are pre Hawkeye though. Using my 77MKII in 300WM for a hunt right now. It is my go to Elk rifle. Also an M77MKII "Sporter" SS with laminate stock in 30-06 and a tang safety heavy barrel M77 in .243. All are fine rifles with very good finish.
 
Last year I bought 2 m77’s in 338 win mag. One was an old tang safety blue and walnut, and the other was a newer MKII stainless in a synthetic stock. Both were perfectly serviceable but I couldn’t help but notice how much nicer finished the older tang safety was. I didn’t warm up to either of them so I sold them both to buy a tikka.

The 2 SP101’s had serious mechanical issues I had to fix myself in order to function but are fantastic once you finish the manufacturing process for them. I’ve never had any issues with a 10/22 or any of their auto loading pistols.
 
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