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Ruger New Model Super Blackhawk in 44 Magnum
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Yes indeed Sixguns! Now the question is whether I want a Vaquero in .45LC (Or maybe a SASS set hehe) a Super Redhawk in .44mag, or a GP100 in .357 as my next purchase. I don't think .357 counts as "big bore" but it's still a fabulous round. In fact I was at the range earlier and a guy had some hot, hot .357 loads that were perhaps even louder on report than the light powder weight .44 magnum loads I was shooting. The Fiocchi I've been shooting is 240 grain at like 1150 so it's pretty wimpy. (Just as a side note the guy shooting .357 had nickel plated SD rounds and he was firing them through a semi automatic, not a coonan, that did .357 magnum revolver rounds through a semi automatic. Some people carry .357 magnum in a semi auto for SD guys haha that blew my mind)
I did about a hundred rounds today of the Fiocchi through the SBH and it was very enjoyable. I've noticed one chamber in my cylinder sticks substantially harder than the others when I try to turn the cylinder to eject ammunition, and that the while four of my cylinders will send brass flying if I eject it harshly that two cylinders only push the brass "most of the way" out with a harsh eject. It seems like it's quite a tight gun and I have been very happy with my 20 yard accuracy. I need to try and shoot it to 50 yards next to really test myself.
One of my targets in particular had several different groupings on it, indicating that either my sights are off or I'm not able to fixate on the same position repeatedly. I'm uploading the target so other shooters can consider my shooting behavior. I think my sight is slightly off on windage (with my POI being to the left of my POA ever so slightly at the 20 yards). My bullseyes are when I aim bottom right of the white circle, and the two groupings of misses are from my testing the POI I think. The reason I didn't just adjust my sights though was because the groups are all so distinct that maybe it's not the sights and it's me not being able to aim, and because it didn't seem to be much of a problem last time. I definitely have a (slight) flinch problem and all my misses edge left every dang time so it's getting hard to tell how much of my accuracy is mechanical and how much is me being a scaredy-cat.
Has anyone else noticed adjustable sights maybe creeping out of zero if you shoot it a lot? I'm at about 300 rounds now and it seems like I was getting easier bullseyes at first, but then on the other hand each of my individual groupings seems satisfying so maybe it's just the sights? If any of those groups were in the white I'd be very happy.
Target is just repeated cylinders at 20 yards with my trying my best on each shot. I didn't take over sixty seconds on each shot, but each shot was an aimed shot and I did not rush any of them. I'd say this target is a fair representation of my ability to shoot.
I did about a hundred rounds today of the Fiocchi through the SBH and it was very enjoyable. I've noticed one chamber in my cylinder sticks substantially harder than the others when I try to turn the cylinder to eject ammunition, and that the while four of my cylinders will send brass flying if I eject it harshly that two cylinders only push the brass "most of the way" out with a harsh eject. It seems like it's quite a tight gun and I have been very happy with my 20 yard accuracy. I need to try and shoot it to 50 yards next to really test myself.
One of my targets in particular had several different groupings on it, indicating that either my sights are off or I'm not able to fixate on the same position repeatedly. I'm uploading the target so other shooters can consider my shooting behavior. I think my sight is slightly off on windage (with my POI being to the left of my POA ever so slightly at the 20 yards). My bullseyes are when I aim bottom right of the white circle, and the two groupings of misses are from my testing the POI I think. The reason I didn't just adjust my sights though was because the groups are all so distinct that maybe it's not the sights and it's me not being able to aim, and because it didn't seem to be much of a problem last time. I definitely have a (slight) flinch problem and all my misses edge left every dang time so it's getting hard to tell how much of my accuracy is mechanical and how much is me being a scaredy-cat.
Has anyone else noticed adjustable sights maybe creeping out of zero if you shoot it a lot? I'm at about 300 rounds now and it seems like I was getting easier bullseyes at first, but then on the other hand each of my individual groupings seems satisfying so maybe it's just the sights? If any of those groups were in the white I'd be very happy.
Target is just repeated cylinders at 20 yards with my trying my best on each shot. I didn't take over sixty seconds on each shot, but each shot was an aimed shot and I did not rush any of them. I'd say this target is a fair representation of my ability to shoot.
Bama Drifter
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Is $400 a buy now price? Do bears poop in the woods? While the correct answer to both is "YES", I've got sadder stories of missed opportunities. In '05 or '06 I passed up a Russian AKM with extra mags and accoutrements for a similar low price. Cold comfort I was able to get my stainless Mini 14 for <650 bucks and a Kimber at wholesale price
A 357 Magnum is not considered a big-bore but is a must have for any big-bore lover which is usually considered .40 and up in caliber. It's the high pressure and breaking the sound barrier making the really loud noise on the hot loads; somewhere around 1100fps.
Your groups look very good at 20yds. Ruger has excellent sights so not likely they are moving, adjusting the windage a few clicks will fix it. Most important is different ammo will shoot to different POI. That's why always buying or reloading the ammo helps a lot.
Some dry firing will help detect and correct a flinch, it's mostly a mental thing. If you have a 22LR shoot that too for practice it will help with proper grip, sight alignment and trigger control. I have a S&W 617 but Ruger has both SA & DA in 22 caliber.
Your groups look very good at 20yds. Ruger has excellent sights so not likely they are moving, adjusting the windage a few clicks will fix it. Most important is different ammo will shoot to different POI. That's why always buying or reloading the ammo helps a lot.
Some dry firing will help detect and correct a flinch, it's mostly a mental thing. If you have a 22LR shoot that too for practice it will help with proper grip, sight alignment and trigger control. I have a S&W 617 but Ruger has both SA & DA in 22 caliber.
CraigC
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The Redhawk and Super Redhawk are stronger than the Super Blackhawk. The cylinder is larger in diameter and the guns can take more pressure. Brian Pearce supplied data for the .44's and .45's, printed in Handloader magazine, that runs in the range of 50,000psi. That said, the 340gr Buffalo Bore load is loaded higher than standard pressures but won't hurt the Super Blackhawk. However, these guns can be handloaded with 330's at 1350fps and 355's at 1250fps without exceeding standard pressures. This is plenty for any purpose and the higher velocity of the Buffalo Bore load won't yield anything useful.
I wouldn't buy a SRH because I was worried 340gn Buffalo rounds might wear it a SBH. The cost and blast pressure will be self-limiting. Besides the fact that Buffalo specifically allows SBH to use all of their 44mag offerings.
If I was in sequin's position I'd go for another caliber such as 357. Or do what I did, buy a 44mag 7.5" SRH for cheap and have it shortened to 4.5", I wanted a nice double action 44mag but I didn't want two 7.5" 44mag revolvers. The shortened SRH is fun to shoot, just as accurate as my 7.5"SBH and makes a nice camp sidearm in bear country.
If I was in sequin's position I'd go for another caliber such as 357. Or do what I did, buy a 44mag 7.5" SRH for cheap and have it shortened to 4.5", I wanted a nice double action 44mag but I didn't want two 7.5" 44mag revolvers. The shortened SRH is fun to shoot, just as accurate as my 7.5"SBH and makes a nice camp sidearm in bear country.
DaisyCutter
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Like was finally stated, the redhawk does have a bigger cylinder, and it's a tad longer, so you can have a longer overall length cartridge. The latter is moreso the limiting factor.
Realistically, even handloading I've never pressed out anything the SBH couldn't handle. I never bonded with the redhawk. The SBH has much more soul (to me).
Handloading is where it's at for 44 Mag.
Realistically, even handloading I've never pressed out anything the SBH couldn't handle. I never bonded with the redhawk. The SBH has much more soul (to me).
Handloading is where it's at for 44 Mag.
rduchateau2954
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I love my SBH. There is something special about plinking pop cans at 75-100 yards with a handgun.
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to others that had commented on trigger guard bitting. Got this grip for mine except in siver and Black wood. Great price @ $52, and good combination of form and function.
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