Ruger Old Army Discontinued ?

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Sad, but I've never really liked the look of them. Much prefer the classics!
 
I started dinking with black powder around 1980 or 81.

The initial success of the Ruger Old Army was predicated on the fact that most of the replica guns were neat looking, but objectively junk. There were some exceptions like the old Euro Arms Rogers & Spencer my dad gave me recently. He paid good money for that thing back then, and it was worth it, They're still relatively expensive, and they're still worth it.

But by and large, the BP revolver replicas of the time were more like my old Remmie, which has a frame cast of soft steel or maybe even iron, and soft internal parts. The sear galled up and formed a big burr. It wasn't hardened at all, apparently.

So anyway, back then, if you wanted to experience the Old West, you got a replica and messed around with it a bit. If you really wanted a shooter that you could use for high-volume target shooting, with a good trigger, excellent durability and good accuracy, you bought a Ruger Old Army (or one of the few high-end replicas in the same price range).

Now, you can get a replica that's a truly excellent gun. They offer good looks, shootability and history, and they're not too expensive. Uberti was a good maker before; now under the Beretta umbrella, they've become excellent.

So it doesn't surprise me that, with most of the reasons for buying an Old Army no longer valid, Ruger's heavy, expensive gun with an oddball caliber (yeah it does matter to those of us with a bunch of molds) might have lost sales.

Maybe Ruger has something else in the works, though. I like their products.
 
Sad... :( and going to cause a fuss here in England where the ROA is just about the only modern design handgun that we can own. Maybe I should buy one before they get too sought-after!

Preposterous!
 
Hehehehehe,ha,ha,ha,ha, Whoooie!!! Chuckle, snort snort, cough, gasp, Ooooie!! snicker snicker!! Oh dear God my ribs are hurting, and my leg where I just fell out of the chair! Heh,Heh,Heh Ho, ho, ho!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...Okay...
Don't mean any disrespect with my laughing. I am laughing because I know it was a piece of over rated and over priced (way over priced) claptrap mishmash that Ruger had borrowed and stolen from everyone from Rogers and Spencer, Remington, Colt, Pietta, Uberti, and ain't any telling how many more. But I don't mean any disrespect because I know a lot of people love the gun and that is surely their right...Okay...
 
Let's hope that the ROA will come back. It truly would stink if it is discontinued. It is such a great gun and the best BP revolver I have ever shot. Thank god I have a couple spares ;)

Let's hope that this is not another Ruger political statement. I just can't imagine why they would discontinue it. It always seems to sell well and everyone who has one ends up recommending it to others.
 
Straight shooter. Nahhh, I'm not envious. I'm just not a fan of the ROA, but I can certainly understand that a lot of people are. There's enough of them on the market. If you do some serious checking at places like pawn shops, gun shows, and other places like that, you will find all the 'second hand' ROA's and .44 Magnum Blackhawks with a 7&1/2 barrel that you could ever hope for. Evidently, according to what a lot of owners and managers have told me, (of course there is always an exception to any rule) and believe me I do a lot of checking and it's not just with people like Cabela's and Taylors and VTI and them; there are a lot of people who bought the ROA, found it was underpowered and traded it in or sold it and moved up to the Walker. Likewise, only on opposite ends of the spectrum, lot's of people bought the .44 Magnum with the 7&1/2 barrel, found it was too strong for them and sold it or traded it and dropped down to the .357 Mag.
I'm not saying this is true of everyone and it probably dosen't apply to anyone who uses this site, but it has happened with a lot more 'regular' people out there than you might would believe...Okay...
 
Absolutely, I agree totally. I'm sure the ROA with it's extra weight and characteristics would not fit everyone's liking. I find that my ROA has a totally different type of recoil than a smokeless centerfire of it's same caliber and actually think it's much easier to control. The 5 1/2" model would probably be alot better balance wise but something "I" like is the longer barrel and weight.

Let's face it, Ruger took alot of different designs from the originals and molded together alot of pluses for the ROA. Why not ? I mean it's a modern black powder as where others like uberti and pietta are making replica's and sticking to the older technology as close as they can. Nothing wrong with that and in fact I prefer it.........

Bottom Line.... The ruger will be missed. :(
 
Straight Shooter, no sir, nothing wrong with that with a lot of people. It just never did suit me. I know it will be missed terribly. Actually, I kind of suspect that they will keep (or put back) at least one model of it...I don't know though. Do you remember back in the sixties when he was selling that little .44 Mag auto loading carbine? I was only around 18 years old back then but I just couldn't imagine that carbine would ever go out of production, but it did. Wildly popular but it was only in production for a very short period of time. I KNOW it was a good seller and he HAD to be making money off of it. I can't imagine what put a hair up his ass and made him stop production. Well, anyway, if you have the answer I wish you'd tell me 'cause I sure would like to know...Okay...
 
As a huge fan of the ROA, I am sorry to see that it has been discontinued. The Old Army was the most accurate caplock revolver I used for target practice. In fact, I always claimed that the ROA was my first choice in a caplock revolver design. The Ruger had its critics. It was not a traditional design, nor was it well balanced. But the ROA did possess a reputation for accuracy and reliability. With its discontinuation, I truly do not have a clear second choice among the current crop of caplock revolvers. No doubt, I will ask for recommendations to fill the void created by its passing. As our readers can tell, this news is a bitter blow to me. Thanks for allowing me to vent my feelings.


Timthinker
 
Timthinker, if I may speak to you sir. You are concerned with accuracy I can see.
Now, all of them are accurate (at least the Walker and the Colt .31 Pocket,...BUT...it take's a long time to get used to the sights on one of them) Might I suggest you check out the Remington New Model Army .44 Target Model with adjustable sights? It is available in either stainless or blued steel and is quite accurate and with the adjustable sights it won't take you over a year to learn to hit good and fairly consistently with it as it did me and the Walker. (Hell, I'm STILL learning that Pocket Rifle) I KNOW Pietta make's both models and have been told that Uberti also make's both models. PLUS, there will be a good supply of 'excellent condition' ROA's on the market for years to come. Not to mention the fact that they may yet decide to keep at least one model on the market...Okay...P.S. They DO have a couple of 'high end' makers that are in the price range of the ROA and I have talked to several different people on both sides of the fence, and to be perfectly honest as to how I myself feel after sorting through all the pro's and con's, they're not any more accurate than the Remington model and not any more reliable than the Uberti make. (And MAY not be any more reliable than the Pietta make) I hasten to add here that none of this is cast in stone but I have been around guns most of my life and I just don't feel that it is possible for me to be mislead to a large degree when I'm paying attention and I promise you I have paid very close attention to this. I'll tell you one thing for sure. WHATEVER you buy, if it turn's out to be as dependable as a certain .44 Colt Walker and a certain Colt 1849 Pocket .31 that I know about, and both of them made by Uberti, then you'll never be sorry you bought it...Okay...
 
All black powder revolver owners should bemoan the loss of the ROA simply because our options have now been cut by one, and not increased by any.
I'm glad I own one.

Just curious - who is still making Walkers?
 
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Pohill - Uberti still makes and sells Walkers. And it is still possible to find good examples of Euroarms and Armi San Marco Walkers on the used market.
 
"there are a lot of people who bought the ROA, found it was underpowered "

Excuse me? Underpowered? Load one up with 35 or 40 grains of 777, then talk to me about "underpowered". Sheesh.
 
Hehehehehehehe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Woke up this morning and I'm still laughing. Just can't help myself!! Wheee! Snort, guffaw, Oh my God!!!.... Well, guess I'll take my Pocket Rifle out some time today and make a few shots at about the 100 yard range or maybe just a little further than that, who knows? ( 'Pocket Rifle' being the .44 Colt Walker that I seem to remember several [actually many many] people on this site making fun of because it was made by Uberti and was therefore nothing more than just a piece of cheap replica junk)...Hmmmm. Strange..I only hear one person laughing today. Well, anyway...Okay...
 
.44walkersabot, I genuinely appreciate the recommendation you made earlier. In fact, your posting inspired a thread I just started about a replacement for the Old Army. I am sure all Ruger fans are anxious to read about another accurate and reliable BP revolver. Thank you for sharing with us. By the way, good luck with your "pocket rifle" today. Bring back some good stories.


Timthinker
 
The fact that you have a Walker replica does not make every other BP revolver underpowered or overpriced. Bud's was selling stainless ROAs for about $450. Considering that a stainless standard Uberti Remmie goes for $300 these days, the ROA seems like a bargain at $450.

I'd like to know exactly what Ruger "stole" from Remington, Colt and Rogers and Spencer. The only thing it has in common with those is the fact that it's a single action BP revolver. And Uberti and Pietta? Come on! Ever see those coil springs in the ROA? Did you ever fire one?

I certainly wouldn't consider trading a ROA for a Walker replica "moving up", either. Hell, it's not even moving sideways.

And, the loading lever doesn't drop every time you shoot it, either.:D
 
Timthinker, thank you sir and you're very welcome. Ahhh, I won't have any big stories. I'll just go out back here and shoot across the field a few times at a couple of old 55 gallon drums set up over there, just to get outside for awhile.
Timthinker, I appologize for not being able to help you more, but I'm not a collector. I only have a very few guns and they were chosen carefully as reliable and dependable tools, and not as objects to sit around and play with. I mostly hunt with them and I'vd always got one close to me for self defense although I have no particular reason to believe I'll need it. There are all sorts of people on here talking about all sorts of firearms and they are pretty smart. They have their opinion just like everyone. I saw where you began your new thread. Just wait awhile. There will be lot's of people jumping on there to try and help you out. Just remember two things here..#1. There are lot's of blackpowder handguns out there that will give you a lifetime of shooting pleasure if you keep them clean and take care of them. #2. It's not like every ROA just all of a sudden disappeared from the face of the earth. Good luck. Hey, remember the old Chevrolet Corvair they used to make before Ralph Nader decided to make it his mission in life to get it off the highways? Hell, I liked it. Owned two of them. When they quit making it I just switched over to Ford and ain't never looked back...Have a good day sir...Okay...
 
If they actually do discontinue the ROA that will be very good news for those of us who happen to have one for sale - and for people like Uberti and Pietta, of course. Prospective buyers are not likely to welcome the news though.

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mike101 I am also a swear by Walker owner I have Never had the loading lever fall on my walker even when shooting full 60 grain loads. I am not a cowboy action shooter or a big collector however I do own 3 c&b revolvers 2 colts and a remmie I have looked at the ROA never liked it dont like the looks handled one at the pawn shop didnt like the way it pointed didnt like the balance and for sure didnt like the price. Yes its a shame that they are gonna stop making them because I know alot of people who do like them but lets not slander the Uberti or Piettas they are very nice pistols at an affordable price not every body on this board is rolling in money I by pietta pistols because they are very good guns never had a problem with any of mine. And I like the fact that they are very resonably priced. IMHO if you are gonna shot black powder do it like they did it 150 years ago.
 
When it comes to American made modern pistols ...I`ve always prefered the S&W ..I owned a new Ruger Black Hawk back when they first came out ...can`t explain it but the Rugers just felt clunky and chunkey to me ..I never owned the ROA ...it just looks like the Black Hawk and I never wanted another . Been waiting on the USFA Remmie ...hopeing the price will be around what Ruger is getting for the ROA ..mabe Ruger is thinking about this in their ending production of the ROA . I didn`t feel the price of the Ruger was too high ...it is American made , we don`t work for free here ...quality means alot . If USFA can sell for the 600 or 700 dollar range I`ll buy 2 of them ...Might keep my Ubertis and sell off the rest of the Itilian made copys I have .
 
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