Ruger Precision rifles, Great or Gimmick?

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I'm seriously considering a rpr in 308 or 300 Win Mag. Why? Somewhere in between just because, and to seriously practice long-ish range shooting out to 600 yards.

I have both 308 semiautomatic s and bolt action hunting rifle.

Also considering a more traditional long range 308 that's a Savage 10 on an HS precision stock used comes w/ a Vortex 4x14 HS viper v plex scope and bipod and mzl. break for $900 Or I can get the RPR 308 new for $900 and buy a scope

Thought s and experiences with rpr and more traditional precision 308 set up s?
 
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The RPR’s are great for what they are - a gateway drug for new long range shooters. Or long-ish. They’re not particularly well designed for any particular type of competition, but for a guy who wants to go lay prone in a field from time to time and shoot something far away, they’re great.

Skip the 300win mag, get the 308win or 6.5 creed. The 300 won’t do anything at 600 the other two won’t, except cost more and recoil more.

You may, however, be able to save yourself some money and simply use one of your existing 308win rifles for the task.
 
The Ruger Predator is the same action and barrel, although the RPR usually has a slightly longer barrel depending on the cartridge, and can be had for under $400 is you look around. It is the same rifle, with a more traditional stock. You can purchase an aftermarket chassis stocks for it later if you really want one and end up with a better rifle, at less cost. There are some youtube posts out there with guys making hits at a mile with them.

As already said, at 600 use either the 308 or 6.5, and I'd strongly advise 6.5. At only 600 the difference is small, but it is better than 308 at all ranges. Beyond about 600 the gap starts to be significant and 308 starts running out of gas beyond about 800. The 6.5 is still in the game out to nearly 2000 yards. And it does it with noticeable less recoil than 308.
 
Both myself and a friend have one. For a relatively low cost precision rig I think they're pretty good.

Mine was a .243 and easily grouped sub MOA with everything I tried in it, best load averaged right at 1/2MOA. I later re-barreled it with a Bartlein in 6mm SLR and it dropped down to around 3/8ths. My friend's is a 6.5C and it does around 3/4s MOA with the loads I've worked up for him.

For sticking around 600ys I'd look at the 6.5C or 6mmC. Both of us routinely shoot with another friend that uses a .308 and on average he's using about 2/3s more windgage than my 6mmSLR and about 1/3rd more than the 6.5C and it's costing him more to do it in recoil and bullet prices.
 
The Ruger Predator is the same action and barrel, although the RPR usually has a slightly longer barrel depending on the cartridge, and can be had for under $400 is you look around. It is the same rifle, with a more traditional stock. You can purchase an aftermarket chassis stocks for it later if you really want one and end up with a better rifle, at less cost.

I may have let myself share this sentiment in the past, but I’ve realized this really isn’t true.

The Ruger American Rifle (of which the Predator is a model) does share a bolt with the Precision rifle, but everything else about the action is different. The receiver body is considerably different, intended to be integrated into the Precision chassis, the trigger is very different, and the barrel afixment is very different. And the two model lines do not use the same barrels. So while they share the same bolt, and the barrels and actions are made by the same manufacturer, these two are distinct actions, which have considerable design differences.

I don’t think it’s necessarily accurate to say putting an American Predator into an aftermarket chassis in the future would yield a better rifle either, nor do I think it’s really feasible for less cost. For example, the MDT LSS available for the American isn’t as good of chassis as the Ruger (owning both), and costs a couple hundred MORE than buying a Precision rifle by the time you buy the rifle, chassis, stock, and grip. Pick up an RAP for $400, an MDT/Brownells chassis for $400, a Magpul PRS for $250, and a basic A2 grip for $15 - street prices, you’re into a chassis RAP for $1100ish, whereas street prices on RPR’s typically cruise $700-900. And of course, the RPR chassis is a multimag platform, while these inexpensive aftermarket chassis’ are not, and every inch of a factory RPR has full Ruger backing, while a converted RAP would not. Saying the two would be the same is like saying a blueprinted Rem 700 in an AI chassis is the same as an AI rifle - it just isn’t true. I’d consider it an extreme waste of money to ramp up a Ruger American in this way - better rifles for the same price are available on the shelf.

And of course, that’s EXTRA time, effort, and money being spent changing one rifle just to be the same as another rifle left the factory.

None of that is meant to say the Ruger Precision Rifle is a great rifle while the American Predator is junk, but rather to give a little perspective to counter largely false and wholly speculative statements. Yes, both can hit targets at long distances - so can any 3/4-1moa factory rifle chambered in any cartridge pushing a .5+ BC bullet between 2700-3200fps...
 
Thanks Guys.
Also, I think the Resale value of the RPR would be stronger than a typical less "sexy" long range set up when encountered at a gun show for ex.
 
I don't own one but the reports I have seen indicate that they are a very good value for a modular chassis type rifle without getting into full blown $3k+ custom builds.

600 yards is no joke but it isn't extreme long range either. Depending on your accuracy criteria you could possibly be happy with either the Ruger or the Savage.

Avoid the 300 Win mag, go with either the 308 or the 6.5.
 
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Saying the two would be the same is like saying a blueprinted Rem 700 in an AI chassis is the same as an AI rifle - it just isn’t true.

I had to laugh at this comment. :D I did that exact thing three times with two Remington receivers, a Badger receiver, three Krieger barrels, two 1.5 AICS and one 2.0 AICS. Eventually I saw the light and bought three AI rifles, sold the Remingtons/Badger and have never looked back!
 
Thanks,
looking back to my original thread post, I added more detail about the used 308 I'm considering.
Please comment on the value comparison and re-sale value as well as likely accuracy and usability.
I have ruled OUT the 300wm.

I intend to use the rifle to develop long range skill and possible to hunt on open inlets and power lines.
 
Also considering a more traditional long range 308 that's a Savage 10 on an HS precision stock used comes w/ a Vortex 4x14 HS viper v plex scope and bipod and mzl. break for $900

I’m assuming there’s something wrong with the rifle, or something wrong with the guy selling it, if he’s letting go of a $1600 rig for $900.

For the kind of shooting I do, I would rather have the RPR than the Savage. But if you are just trying to learn, I would take what you already have onto the bench and spend the $900 on ammo, then when you get a little deeper into it and more experienced, you will better realize what you want and need in the rifle.
 
The Ruger Precision Rimfire is gimmick. It is no more or less accurate than any other $300 bolt .22lr. out of the bix. The stock is all gimmick, unless you are using it as some kind of training prop to go with the Precision Rifle, about which I have insufficient information to opine.
 
Go with a Tikka CTR and buy a nice scope. Got one in 308, 6.5 cm, and 260. $850 guns sub moa all day long.

I have and like both, while the CTR is an amazingly accurate crossover rifle, I much prefer my RPR for positional PRS style shooting. At some point I'd like to re-barrel my CTR away from .308 to a more appropriate chambering and drop it in a better stock, but with the RPR in hand, the CTR will probably stay stock for a while. I will say that I like the CTR/TRG22 magazine quite a bit better than AICS pattern mags.

Given the choice in the OP, I don't think I'd get either, I'm not a fan of Savage actions, and wouldn't buy a .308 RPR over a 6.5 CM or 6 CM. I'm not sure if Sportsman's Warehouse is still offering the 6mm RPRs for $750, but if so, that would be an excellent deal.

Scope wise, for the kind of shooting RPRs are designed for, I want a reliable first focal plane setup with a good mil reticle. The SWFA SS variable power scopes are a good ground floor, and the fixed 10x and 12x are very workable given their price.
 
I have an RPR in 6.5cm topped with a SWFA SS 10x and enjoy it. It's easy to hit steel at 500 yards and probably further, but I'm limited by range length. It's very difficult to get to the end of my local range due to swamp land, so ringing steel is just easier than placing and pulling paper targets. The SWFA scope is a great value for a budget range build. It is easier for me to shoot at 500 than the 4-16x44 Nikon Monarch that rides my Tikka Tactical .308.

Which brings me to my 2 cents. IMHO, good glass on an OK rifle is better than OK glass on a great rifle. You cant hit what you cant see. So get a good base rifle, of which the RPR or Savage are, and add a good scope to get to those further ranges
 
Go with a Tikka CTR and buy a nice scope. Got one in 308, 6.5 cm, and 260. $850 guns sub moa all day long.

I've come very close to buying one of these several times. Those modular LRP rifles are all the rage but for a hunting application as you mentioned there's a lot of useless bells and whistles to hang up on brush and clothes. Nothing wrong with a conventional stock to shoot from a bench either.

I've never had much luck with Ruger rifles in the accuracy department. Could be just my bad luck.
 
I run decent Vortex optics on the 308 and 6.5. I like the 260 best and have a cheaper Nightforce SHV on it. Good glass is a must to me. My older eyes have to have it at my age. The optics get me where I need to be. Good handloads and a lot of shooting doesn’t hurt either. Reloading doesn’t save money. It only allows you to shoot more. Kind of kidding but a box of factory 260 if you can find it runs close to $45.00 a box. I’d have to quit shooting if factory was all I could shoot.
 
I have a Savage 10T in .308, it's a fine rifle; I have a Burris Veracity on mine and works very well.

Buddy of mine has a RPR in 6.5CM, which I handload for. His has some sort of SIG scope on it, it seems to work well enough, too.

I had the opportunity to shoot both side by side last year...

The RPR is kind of klunky... the action wasn't as smooth as even my Savage, which wouldn't win any awards for smoothness, either, but that was just my observation. Shooting the 6.5CM was interesting vs the .308. Far easier to shoot, and to shoot well... dime sized groups at 100yds easy without trying, less recoil = less fatigue. I was shooting it off bags, so that might have helped, too. I shot my Savage off it's bipod, which was wonky off the poorly sized bench I was at, so it made the Savage seem a little more unruly, perhaps. Of course, the RPR has a muzzle brake, the Savage does not.

The Savage has proprietary magazines that are expensive (some use Savage mags, it's my understanding that some use universal mags, but don't quote me on that.) I've read issues where the Savage receiver was not milled square and the rail isn't square when mounted. I know Ruger had a recall on some of their RPR's for, I believe, improperly mounted (cross-threaded) forearms.

The Savage seems bigger and heavier, it obviously uses a conventional stock system vs the chassis configuration of the RPR, and my Savage in particular has a heavy barrel.

My .02 cents worth: I would take the Savage every day and twice on Sunday. I didn't care for the build of the Ruger, even though I thought the ergonomics were better than the Savage. In something big like .300 or .308 I think the additional weight of the heavy barrel would help... I don't know that I would care to shoot the RPR with something like the .300WM.
 
Those modular LRP rifles are all the rage but for a hunting application as you mentioned there's a lot of useless bells and whistles to hang up on brush and clothes.
I'm sure there is someone who will use the modular long range rifles for hunting, but I think most people would agree that's not what they are designed for, so saying they make poor hunting rifles is like saying a sports car makes a poor SUV.

I admit a large part of the reason I'm looking at the various modular long range rifles is I think they look cool, which is of course an entirely subjective call on my part, but as far as I'm concerned "cool" is a perfectly fine reason to buy a gun! ;)
 
I'm sure there is someone who will use the modular long range rifles for hunting, but I think most people would agree that's not what they are designed for, so saying they make poor hunting rifles is like saying a sports car makes a poor SUV.

I admit a large part of the reason I'm looking at the various modular long range rifles is I think they look cool, which is of course an entirely subjective call on my part, but as far as I'm concerned "cool" is a perfectly fine reason to buy a gun! ;)

They've sold a lot of AR's based on that alone so you would be in good company.

I'm more of a shotgun guy than anything and I learned a long time ago to choose the firearm based on the use. For instance, a trap gun won't work well to hunt with because it's set up for trap. If you want to shoot LRP buy a rifle for that. If you want to hunt buy a sporter. Rifles are cheap enough these days you can have your cake and eat to.
 
Can anyone elaborate on what makes a rifle like the Ruger Precision poor at hunting?

Poor? No, just not particularly well suited for certain types of hunting. For instance, it wouldn't be my first choice for dragging through the swamp into the deer stand. However, if I were calling coyotes I dont think it would hinder me a bit. It all depends on what type of hunting one has in mind.
 
Can anyone elaborate on what makes a rifle like the Ruger Precision poor at hunting?

Maybe it's the kind of hunting /location that would make it a poor hunting rifle? I wouldn't want to lug it through briars or hemlock swamps to bag a buck at less than 50 yards with an offhand shot lol.
 
I don't have a RPR, but several people I know who are Special Operations snipers own them, in both 308 and 6.5 CM. They all speak highly of them.
 
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