KansasTrapper77
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You must have cheaper Single Sixs in your area. When I was in the market for a single action 22 the used Single Sixs where magnitudes more expensive
Ruger Wrangler versus Heritage Rough Rider
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You must have cheaper Single Sixs in your area. When I was in the market for a single action 22 the used Single Sixs where magnitudes more expensive
I have both, like both, and am not afraid of wearing either one out. RR came with wood grips and mag cylinder at a cost and in a configuration that Wrangler didn't offer. Then I bought a similar Wrangler, but am looking for nice wood grips (birds head). RR safety is unobtrusive and neither gun is true to the old west pattern, but then Hollywood's old west never existed anyway. 
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My Wrangler is an early one and shoots very well and does everything one could ask from a budget sixgun. It’s built Ruger tuff and I highly recommend one!
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View attachment 1130962 My Colt Peacemaker .22 lr with .22 magnum cyl.Bought in 1973. My first pistol
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doubleh
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Finding a used single six around here is almost as difficult as finding a hen's tooth. The last one I saw was twice the cost of a new Wrangler and it came home with me. On a quality scale it's at least four times the gun the Wrangler is.
The Ruger's fit is definitely better but for me personally the Ceracote while more durable detracts from the overall appearance. The Heritage on the other hand looks more similar to the old 1870s revolvers even with that ugly safety. The Heritage also has one feature that is better than the Ruger, the Ruger cylinder spins freely when unloading spent cartridges, the Heritage stops in place allowing easier removal of spent cartridges. If I had to chose one over the other it would be the Heritage. If I didn't have to choose I'd hold out for a Pietta or Uberti 1873 reproduction.
hawg
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I went to my LGS specifically to look at a Wrangler. They had 7 or 8 of them but they looked so tacky I couldn't deal with them. I asked about a used Single Six and they brought out a LNIB stainless one for 500.00 and the one I bought was 275.00. That was a couple of years ago tho.
I don't like that about the Ruger either. It's one reason I wont own a Ruger centerfire. I'm a little more lenient towards .22's.
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Just read that Ruger is coming out with a Wrangler
7.5 inch with a standard grip. Be interesting to see how that longer bbl. improves accuracy.
7.5 inch with a standard grip. Be interesting to see how that longer bbl. improves accuracy.
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Whenever someone mentions "shoulda bought a Single Six" in these RR vs Wrangler threads I always thought they were missing the point. It seemed apparent to me people looking at the Heritage or the Ruger were interested more in the price point and not wanting to spend what a SS can bring. BUT......
I'm a working guy on a budget so I buy cheap guns. Yep, bought a Wrangler. Then a pair of RR's for my nephews, who have finally proven themselves as capable of safely handling a firearm.
IMHO, the people recommending the SS are right. My wife claims that I have "freakishly strong fingers," but the Wrangler's loading gate is BEYOND stiff-I wound up gluing a piece of chamois to a screwdriver to pry it open. And Cerakote is the dumbest finish ever. Cheap Krylon paint holds up better.
The RR's don't have that issue, and both shoot better than the Wrangler, but looking at them reminds me of Hotwheels. One of the boys insisted he wanted the version with the magnum cylinder and frankly while probably irrational I'm afraid that lumpy Zamak piece is going to blow up in his hands.
I'm a working guy on a budget so I buy cheap guns. Yep, bought a Wrangler. Then a pair of RR's for my nephews, who have finally proven themselves as capable of safely handling a firearm.
IMHO, the people recommending the SS are right. My wife claims that I have "freakishly strong fingers," but the Wrangler's loading gate is BEYOND stiff-I wound up gluing a piece of chamois to a screwdriver to pry it open. And Cerakote is the dumbest finish ever. Cheap Krylon paint holds up better.
The RR's don't have that issue, and both shoot better than the Wrangler, but looking at them reminds me of Hotwheels. One of the boys insisted he wanted the version with the magnum cylinder and frankly while probably irrational I'm afraid that lumpy Zamak piece is going to blow up in his hands.
ontarget
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Would it make you feel better if I told you that I've never even heard a rumor about a RR blowing up?
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Brubz
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You're absolutely right about the people saying you should have bought a Single Six instead.that's like criticizing somebody who bought a Kia and saying but why didn't you buy a BMW? duh!
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My new Heritage Rough Rider 6.5bbl with Cocobolo
Grips
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Probably will make the patterning worse, long barrels don't have great harmonics/vibration dampening, especially when mated to something like the Wrangler. It will however have a longer sight radius, but I've never cared for the traditonal sights on a single action and find the shorter the sight radius, the better I can see the front sight.
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Brubz
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I know you guys hate the safety On The Rough Rider but I will say this, it does separate the hammer from the firing pin which means you can dry fire it for practice.there's that at least
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Ruger. It ain't a fair comparison.
Mainsail
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For me the safety was just one more poor quality indicator. A friend brought his by to show me. I cocked the hammer, and pulled the trigger while lowering the hammer with my thumb - the cylinder had a lot of play with the hammer down and the trigger pulled back.
Carl N. Brown
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I zeroed my HRR at 25yds (carefully cutting the front sight down til I had a " apple on a fencepost" picture at 25yds with .22 LR 40gr hv rn same as I did my Ruger MkII fixed siight).
Six rounds.
Six rounds.
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When you cock a Wrangler, you hear click-click..
When you cock a Heritage Rough Rider, you hear click-click-click-click, just like a real grown up bona fide C-o-l-t sounds.
When you cock a Wrangler, you hear click-click..
When you cock a Heritage Rough Rider, you hear click-click-click-click, just like a real grown up bona fide C-o-l-t sounds.
chicharrones
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That's one of those things that has never been important to me.
Of course, I don't buy single actions to get the slow cocking experience shown in old westerns. I buy single actions to shoot and I cock them quickly enough that the separate clicks blend together no matter how many clicks they have.
CraigC
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Can't please them all. The Wrangler is the only one that freespins. Most other Ruger New Models are between the chambers at the "click". They fixed that on some guns to satisfy some complainers, only to create a new set of complainers.
Seriously, barrel harmonics???
Except the Ruger feels like every other New Model. The Heritage feels like it has sand in it.
chicharrones
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Pshaw.
The shooter is the main reason a handgun muzzle moves when the shot is fired. Not to mention that a fat diameter 7.5" long barrel with a small .22 caliber hole launching rimfire cartridges isn't some 22" sporter rifle firing .30 cal cartridges through a noodle thin barrel.
All other things being equal, a long sight radius gives the opportunity for the shooter to make more precise sight alignment, as long as the shooter can see the sights well and hold the muzzle steady.
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hawg
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They still turn by opening the loading gate.
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Which is a pretty cool feature considering I usually want to load or unload when the cylinder is unlocked. Seems perfectly suited to single action guns with frame mounted firing pins.
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