S&W Enters the Shotgun Market

[Guntalk]

My point, and I may not be explaining it well, is that, in my view, there is a difference between buying guns from an existing plant, renaming the guns, and importing them, versus having a plant built to build YOUR guns, and only your guns. You then design the guns (Solid Works being used in both the Mass. S&W plant and the Turkish plant), and no other guns are made there.

As you might expect, there are some good reasons for S&W to have someone else build "their" plant. This should not be rocket science, either.

Tom (not even a bottle rocket scientist)

 

[Guntalk]

New PHOTOS of S&W shotguns

I just put up more photos of the S&W shotguns, and other goodies from Smith, at www.guntalk.com

 

[Guntalk]

An easier link to the photos.

http://guntalk.com/site28.php

 

[PJR]

I've been following this thread with some interest. I personally don't care where the gun is made but regardless what special terms S&W has at this operation it's just another Turkish gun factory as far as I'm concerned.

My point, and I may not be explaining it well, is that, in my view, there is a difference between buying guns from an existing plant, renaming the guns, and importing them, versus having a plant built to build YOUR guns, and only your guns.

You've explained it well but I'm not buying it for a second.

I'll give the S&W guns their due when they arrive at the local shop. Until that point I would regard them as just another "Turkish Delight" and from my experience they are not all that delightful. I'm happy to be proven wrong but I'll let some other owner do the field testing before I buy one.

As for Turkish guns, take a look at the Kimber Valier. It's a stunning 7-pin sidelock that would probably run $25,000 from England. It's just a bit above $5,000. High quality at good value.

Interesting. More than once I've poked around various English gunshops and visited several makers. Would you be so kind to let me know where I can buy a new English-made sidelock for $25,000? Perhaps you meant £25,000 but even that's about £10,000 less than the going price of the least expensive sidelock.

I've seen the Kimber Valier and for the price it might compare against a similarly priced Spanish sidelock from one of the better makers. Nothing more and perhaps less.

Turkey might well turn out to be the new Nirvana for custom-made shotguns. In this regard however the Turks are off to a rocky start at best and I'll restrain any unbridled enthusiasm for the S&W guns until they prove then can run with the rest of the pack.

 

[Guntalk]

I guess you'll just have to wait to get your hands on one, then.

Did you look at the photos?

 

[Gordon]

Finished the show already? You know I'm not as curmudgeonly as you think, just don't want to be sold a bill of goods (something the younger people better learn soon) by a corporation , a govt. OR an advertiser
That said I MIGHT buy an S&W 'Turkey' shottie in 28 gauge SxS IF it has a nice gauge sized action. Yes I'd like 28 or even 30" light barrels, maybe IC and modified with the Price o Wales grip . Nothing wrong with Turkish walnut , thats for sure! See I'll buy S&W as long as there is no warning label ect.
Actually I was thinking about calling your show and raving about how good the SW 1911s are! I think they are the best built .45s out there for the money. I was so impressed by my 1911PD Gunsite model at it's 3000 round point, that I bought a custom shop full size light rail gun with the optional bigger extractor. I should get it around Christmas.

 

[PJR]

I guess you'll just have to wait to get your hands on one, then.

Did you look at the photos?

I did. So what? Photos tell nothing other than a gun can take a pretty picture and a photographer with the right lighting kit can polish a turd.

And I'm still waiting for your answer to where in the UK I can find a new, English-made sidelock for $25,000.

 

[kbheiner7]

S&W?

If I buy any Smith in the future, it'll be a vintage revolver. Their new stuff blows.

 

[CZguy]

S&W?

If I buy any Smith in the future, it'll be a vintage revolver. Their new stuff blows.

Wow, don't hold all that in, you'll get all repressed inside.