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I started one on CZ's, might as well have one for the M&P too. So I'm in Academy Sports checking out the CZ 75 compact and I see the M&P. Then I remember they use a Melonite treatment(same as Glocks). Being a Glock fan I'm naturally interested.

So what's the story on the M&P? Can you get one w/o the mag disconnect and internal lock?
 
I just bought a M&P 9 last Monday. The price was $499.00, but they gave me $200.00 for my 3 year old Sigma 9VE. I loved the Sigma, not one failure in three years and thousands of rounds.

The M&P is a joy to shoot. The trigger is better than the Sigma, and the 17 round magazines make quick work out of a box of ammo.

Mine has standard sights, no internal lock, and a mag safety. According to the S&W website getting one without the mag safety is NOT an option.

The M4 Tactical Illuminator that fit my SW9VE will not fit on the M&P. My Uncle Mike's holster that I used for my Sigma does fit the M&P.

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10001&storeId=10001&productId=45932&langId=-1&isFirearm=Y
 
My only guns prior to the M&P were the Sigma 9VE and a S&W 642. I have shot my friends XD9 and I would say the M&P is similar to the XD9. I don't have a trigger pull gauge, but I would estimate it is about half the pull of the Sigma. It has been very accurate right out of the box, and I intend to carry it daily after I put another couple of hundred rounds through it.
 
Picked one up on a whim when they first arrived at our local Sportsman's Warehouse. Price was attractive, and the pistol felt good when I looked at it, certainly looked better than the photos in the gunrags. Not a fan of the .40 S&W (in fact, my SIG 226 is the only .40 I've ever liked, traded away my Glocks), but, gotta say, I'm likin' this pistola. Trigger is better than my buddy's SA XD-40, for sure. After about 400 rounds, I'm thinking this is a very reliable and accurate semiauto. Plus, what I like is that it feels great in the hand (I'm a 1911 guy at heart, but the only other DA autos that have ever felt good in my hand are the SIG 226s, M9s and CZ-75s).

So far, this seems like a worthy pistol to me. I may get one in 9mm now, even ... I'd been looking hard at the XDs, but I think this pistol rivals SA's offerings, for sure ...
 
So what's the story on the M&P? Can you get one w/o the mag disconnect and internal lock?

Magazines? M&Ps take magazines? My post WWII M&P in 38 Spcl doesnt take magazines, nor does it have a lock. It doesn't have that Melonite stuff either, unless that's what they call blued steel nowadays.

Just kidding, but it's 2 AM here and I just couldn't resist :neener:
 
I have had mine for quite some time now and I really enjoy it. Unfortunately, I spend most of my time shooting my revolvers because I make my own .38/.357 loads. It is a very comfortable semi-auto to hold and shoot.:D :D
 
As it happens I JUST looked one over today. Fit and finish is top drawer, but what most impressed me was the trigger - a DA-only, but felt like some SAs. I could get used to this pistol.

The ONLY thing (aside from watching the budget) that will keep me from buying one is that I don't need another full-sized service/duty pistol. If S&W comes out with an 'officers' model, I'll be very interested.

But man, that's one heck of a trigger!

Clint
 
I was thinking the same thing, don't need a full size either and was wondeing if S&W release a compact. You'd have to think so, unless weak sales told them otherwise. Although, weak full size sales doesn't mean a compact won't do well.
 
So what's the story on the M&P? Can you get one w/o the mag disconnect and internal lock?

I picked up my M&P40 last Friday. I got mine with night sights, no internal lock and no mag disconnect, (had to special order it to get it that way) and with three magazines. Paid a little much for it ($575 + tax) but it's one sweet shooting pistol. It's actually replaced my XD45 as my duty weapon (armored car company). It carries quite nicely in a High Noon "Snapper" belt holster in the office and is more fun to shoot than a Glock 22 that I used to have. If I have to wear the whole duty rig, it fits perfectly in a Safariland 6280 made for my old Sigma 9E. All in all I'm very happy with this one. I'll be adding the 9mm and later the .45 version, too.
 
Yes, I have read that there will eventually be a compact and maybe even a tactical version - so, wait maybe a year,a nd it might be out :)
 
There will be a compact/officers/baby model of each offering (9mm, .40, .45) and a long barrel/slide version of at least some of them.

Not sure when, though.

Mike
 
Mine has standard sights, no internal lock, and a mag safety. According to the S&W website getting one without the mag safety is NOT an option.

I picked up my M&P40 last Friday. I got mine with night sights, no internal lock and no mag disconnect, (had to special order it to get it that way) and with three magazines.

:scrutiny:
 
I've had mine for about 3 months and have about 700 rds through it. No complaints, except the mag disconnect.
 
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According to the S&W website getting one without the mag safety is NOT an option.

Yeah, yeah, that's what the webstie says, and likely what S&W will tell you, But it just isn't true. The sku for the .40 with no internal lock and no mag safety (how S&W lists it) is 209300. You will notice it is not listed on the website, which is behind the times. You will also notice the nice little warning on the side of my gun. toocool has the other sku with no mag safety, which is theoretically the LEO package (hence the 3 mags). $575 is a good price for ti too as invoice on the night sight option is like $50, and new mag is like $35, and the going retail rate for the regular package is about $500-$550 depending on where you live.

Skus for them I have seen listed as

309700 - 9mm with night sights
309701 - 40 cal with night sights
309702 - 357sig with night sights.

But I have seen multiple catalogs with the 700 and 701 sku transposed and S&W wouldn't even admit they existed on the phone (I got a real dink who didn't want to admit even the 9mm existed yet, a real winner), so I can't confirm which is which, but i suspect 700 is 40 and 701 is 9mm as 200, 300, and 600 are all 40s.

As for my take on the gun, I love the ergonomics. I think the only faults it might have there is the textured area under the trigger guard. I feel it might cause irritation or chafing if you are practicing your draw a lot. The other issue is the hinged trigger. It's not bad, but I believe the fact you see reviews praising the short reset of the trigger and bitching about the long reset of the trigger is due to that. Unless you practice gettig the timing of the gun down, you really want to let the hinged park go back to it's rest position rather than keping tension on it. Based on my experience, the ACTUAL reset needed to fire another round is similar to a cz-75 or clone in SA mode.

The grip straps rock. The method of removing and replacing them rocks, as long as some bubba at the gun store hasn't ignored the instructions and ripped out the retainer by brute strengh and broken the locking mechanism. One of my local gun sotres had this issue with their display gun.

Teh trigger is decent. Heavy, but smooth. It feels a wee bit heavier than a glock 34/35 trigger, but a bit cleaner, (provided the g34/35 stock triggers I ahve run into are representative) so in the end I'd put them on about par. Some QA here from S&W would help some of the mixed reviews on the trigger. Mine arrived with NO lubricant on the gun, and the trigger was gritty and lumpy feeling. Applyu some moly grease to the contact points listed in the instructions, and it felt like a whole different trigger. Dry fired it about 500 times, and it felt like the demo gun's trigger at the same shop they broke the grip retainier at. They admitted to having test driven the display model a fair bit.

For me, the gun points very naturally and is very accurate. I have yet to shoot the thing off a bench or rest, but comparing what shooting I have gotten in with guns I own and know and have benched, it is a solid performer in accuracy. Despite having some r4attles and clunks while in battery, the barrel to frame lockup is VERY solid at both the locking block and crown end of things. The slide to frame fit is pretty tight at the front block/rail segment, but has a little play at the back block/rail segment.

The trigger is ok, it's an improved design that looks like they not only took the glock, sigma, XD, and user complaints and praise about all the above into consideration when designing it, but may very well have looked at some of the trigger jobs being performed on them as well. I have no doubt that overtravel could be reduced (and thus reset reduced), as well as lightening the trigger pull. I think if you hooked up a smith who can do XD triger jobs with some spare trigger bars, you'd have a range of nice M&P triggers available that are similar to the XD trigger jobs on offer.

All in all a very nice gun that I am liking a lot.
 
Nice reply Raz!

I've had my M&P since Feb. and could not agree more with your reply!
Mine has a very low serial Number (352) and does have the Mag Disconnect which I hate.
Other than that I'm impressed with the pistol.
 
I’m not big on plastic guns, but if Smith & Wesson can put American Made guns back in the hands of cops I figured I could support the effort by buying one.

I really wanted the .45 but it won’t be out until the end of the year (if then) so I bought the .40.
I will sell my .40 and get the .45, but other than that it is a great weapon. I have put about 500 rounds or so through it without any kind of failure. It just feels great in my hand is perfectly balanced. 15 rounds of .40S&W Federal Hydra-shoks is a lot of firepower.

Not having to manually release the slide on the second mag was an unexpected nice surprise.

Shooting a Kimber 1911 and S&W revolvers it’s kind of hard to get excited about the accuracy of these guns, but I gave it to a couple of LEO’s that were shooting next to me and they said it shot tighter groups and felt better than their Glocks.

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According to the S&W website getting one without the mag safety is NOT an option.


Yeah, yeah, that's what the webstie says, and likely what S&W will tell you, But it just isn't true.

Well, actually, Smith told me that it's offered in both versions, depending on how the dealer orders it. And that's all there is to it. If you or your dealer knows to order one w/o the mag so-called safety, then that's what you get. The one I bought yesterday has the "caution" statement, which as far as I'm concerned should be a smiley face instead! :evil:
 
Well, actually, Smith told me that it's offered in both versions, depending on how the dealer orders it. And that's all there is to it. If you or your dealer knows to order one w/o the mag so-called safety, then that's what you get. The one I bought yesterday has the "caution" statement, which as far as I'm concerned should be a smiley face instead!

The you got lucky at S&W as the people answering the phones apparantly vary greatly. Your gun store may not have an interest, or the knowledge to help you. So to help you help them, knowing the SKU is useful.

40S&W with mag safety is 209200
40S&W without mag safety is 209300

9mm with mag safety is 209201
9mm without mag safety is 209301

All of these are actually in production and available form distributors in various quantities.
 
Put one on layaway today to replace my Beretta Cougar 8040F.

I have small hands, and was looking at the SW99, Walther P99, and the 990L - all in DAO trim. I would have had to order one of those, and then I saw an M&P in the case, DAO.

I like the feel, sights, and the ergonomics. My first plastic gun, as I am not a real fan of the Glock grips.

Bill in SD
 
Called S&W today. I am going to send mine back for the "updated" version of the slide release. While I had the customer service person on the phone I asked about them removing the mag disconnect also. He said they couldn't do it without the slide being laser engraved with the warning about firing with the mag removed. He went as far as saying it was federal law. I didn't want to get in a pissing match with him about federal law. I will be happy to get a functional slide release lever. I can live with the mag disconnect safety.
 
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