S&W M&P--Whadaya think about it?

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I have owned my M&P 9 for almost 2 months. I am more than impressed with this new pistol. I have fired close to 500 rounds, of all types of ammo, without a single malfunction. It is the most accurate semi-auto I have ever fired. The trigger pull is smooth and consistent with every shot.

Mine does not have the IL lock, but does have the magazine safety..which I have gotten used to. Many people criticize the "Slide Release" of the M&P. It was not designed as a release, but as a "Slide Stop". Inserting a full magazine into the weapon will automatically close the slide, thus eliminating the need for a Slide Release. In a fighting situation it is better not to run the gun dry, but rather insert a new magazine before the slide locks open...thus making the Slide Release a mute point.
 
Well, I have to ammend my earlier post. The M&P has started acting up. I about 300 rds over the last couplde days and started getting light primer strikes. I used WWB and Winchester Clean Range 180gr and got light strikes with both. I examined the primers of the rounds that fired and they had very strong hits. I then looked at the rounds that did not go off and they just slightly dimpled. This happened once every two mags. Not good. I've emailed S&W so hopefully they will take care of it. :(
 
The first few M&Ps had problems with light strikes. How old is yours? Is it recent production, or is it one of the first batch?

Either way, Smith should address the issue. Keep us up to speed on this.

Mike
 
I purchased it in Feb '06. The serial starts MPA6***, not sure if it is one of the earlier runs. The inconsistancy is what bugs me. The pistol points naturally and shoots great, but it needs to go "Bang" on every trigger pull. It's got worse throughout the range session, so I think something is up. I sent an email to Smith and will hopefully get the RMA number to send it back today before FedEx closes.
 
I agree with Distra, it needs to go BANG on each each trigger pull. I have not had any problems with mine, but I have a feeling S&W will take care of any issues that may arise.
 
I'm guessing that you have an early production gun. Smith should be aware of the problem and should fix it quickly. IIRC, it was as simple as a spring change (though I might be wrong about that).

Mike
 
Yeah, they probably put too weak of a firing pin spring in the first runs. Whats weird is they didn't catch the problem before releasing them....you would think before the first batch shipped out they would put like 10k rounds through every caliber M&P as a final test run.
 
I am going to send mine back for the extended slide release. Mine is an early one that has had over 1k rds thru it without any light strike issues, however, I am going to put on the note a concern about the spring not being up to date. I really like the M&P 40, accurate and very fast and easy to do double taps with. I HOPE S&W makes a 10mm version of this.
 
One would think, yes. However, at least they were receptive to fixing the problem, and not denying that it existed. To repeat, I heard that the fix was a spring change- I do not know that for a fact. I just want to make sure that we don't start an errornet rumor.

And I dunno about a 10mm. I would like to see one, for certain, but I don't know if the demand is there. I'd like to see an XD in 10mm as well. I think that both Springfield/HS and S&W could now work some grip magic on a 10mm autopistol that might make it fit the hand better than, say, Glock, EAA or a Gen-3 S&W like the 1006.

Mike
 
Well, it looks like there will be one in my future. And, if I like it as much as I think I will, it'll replace my G23.

Mark
 
Any word on when the .45 ACP model M&P will be released?

Are there any specs available yet, like magazine capacity?

Coronach, you mentioned the BHP in .40. I recently bought a Browning in .40, and being a 1911 guy I really want to like the gun since the controls feel somewhat familiar to me, but don't care for the muzzle flip that the gun has. It's not nearly as easy to keep on target as my 1911s. Is the M&P similar in this respect to the Browning with a lot of muzzle flip?
 
The M&P .45 has a 10 round capacity, will be available with or without a manual safety (in the same safety config as the 1911) and should be available next year. It'll probably make it's public debut at SHOT but some
have already tried it and reported it to be excellent. There is more information available on 10-8forums.com.
 
Coronach, you mentioned the BHP in .40. I recently bought a Browning in .40, and being a 1911 guy I really want to like the gun since the controls feel somewhat familiar to me, but don't care for the muzzle flip that the gun has. It's not nearly as easy to keep on target as my 1911s. Is the M&P similar in this respect to the Browning with a lot of muzzle flip?
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You know? I'm not really sure. It has been so long since I fired a BHP in .40 that I cannot tell for sure. My guess is that it has less, because my recollection of shooting the BHP was "Wow, that's nice, but it that nose sure wants to climb on you". Every time I shoot the M&P40 I'm reminded of how mildly it flips, compared to other .40s I've shot. Now whether that's a contrast effect (comparing the BHP in .40 to 9mm, which would make the BHP .40 seem really snappy, and/or comparing the M&P to other, less ergonomic .40s like the Glock and Sig, which would make the M&P seem more mild) I do not know. I'm guessing less muzzle flip, but you'd really have to try it for yourself to see.
The M&P .45 has a 10 round capacity, will be available with or without a manual safety (in the same safety config as the 1911)
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REALLY? That's interesting. Manual safety? Hmm.

...if you're looking for a manual safety gun, why would you not go with a true, sweet SA trigger?

Oh well, it's just an option.


MNike
 
...if you're looking for a manual safety gun, why would you not go with a true, sweet SA trigger?
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Ask the military, as that's apparently who S&W is targetting with this option (required by the JSOC pistol contract). It's possible (likely?) that the trigger will be lighter if the safety option is used.
 
Our dept. T&Eed the 40. It has the mag disc. safety. All liked it except for that feature. The one I'm waiting on is a sub-compact, single-stack mag model in 9m/m for concealed carry.
The model that Glock should make but don't.
 
My son bought a .40 and it really surprised me. It is very comfortable to hold, points naturally, and the trigger is smooth, which translates into good practical accuracy. Recoil was the most surprising aspect of the gun; it does not seem to have any more snap than my Sig 228.
 
Sigma Vs M & P trigger....

Master Blaster Quote;I owned and got rid of a SIGMA .40V the trigger on the M&P looks the same and probably is the same identical trigger system/pull as the SIGMA. I also have a Glock I can shoot the Glock very well and it fits my hand quite well.
I could never shoot the SIGMA well, it fit my hand really well though.
I understand that the M&P has a more adjustible grip system so it can fit a variety of hand sizes.

Unless the trigger on the M&P is greatly improved from the SIGMA trigger, well thats my opinion anyway.
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I have a SW9VE and my next pistol will be a M & P, 40. The Sigma has a long and hard trigger. It's supposed to be about 12 lbs. I like the Sigma. It's very dependable. I've never had a FTE or FTF in over 900 or so rounds, but I do wish the trigger was a little (or a lot) lighter.
The M & P is supposed to have a 6.5 lb trigger. It's a lot better. But we have a baby Desert Eagle 9 mm with a 4 lb trigger that I love. I don't think I would want a lighter trigger than 4 lbs for a CCW. I really like a light trigger for range shooting though.
I met a guy on the range recently that let me dry fire his 1911 (don't remember the brand) that he shot in competition. It had a custom 2 lb trigger. Wow! Was that great but not for CCW. He said some of the competition shooters had their 1911 triggers down to measuring by the once!:uhoh:
 
I've owned my M&P40 since Feb , like most mine is more accurate with 180gr ammo . I've gone over 300 rounds of ammo without a glitch .
 
I met a guy on the range recently that let me dry fire his 1911 (don't remember the brand) that he shot in competition. It had a custom 2 lb trigger. Wow! Was that great but not for CCW. He said some of the competition shooters had their 1911 triggers down to measuring by the once!
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2.5lbs or heavier is required for NRA bullseye, not sure about other competitions.

Folks you dont need to convince me how great the M&P is or how wonderful the SIGMA is I wasted my money on one once, I won't do so again .

Enjoy yours :)
 
Folks you dont need to convince me how great the M&P is or how wonderful the SIGMA is I wasted my money on one once, I won't do so again .
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Well, you din't waste your money on an M&P, just bad mouth it. Other than being striker fired, it's different than the sigma.

you want to see details, general pics can be seen here.

http://www.bloodimage.com/SWMP/SWMP.html

You want to see how a full zorch trigger job is done to it you can look here. http://www.burwellgunsmithing.com/M&Ptriggerjob1.htm

Working off of factory parts, they are getting it down to about 2.7lbs minimum and from what people are saying, it is smooth and clean breaking.

For comparison, people are saying it isn't quite as crisp as a light 1911 trigger job, but more crisp than a 2lb XD trigger job.

It's substantially different from a sigma both internally and externally. I think their biggest mistake with it was ahving the trigger externally look like the sigma's.
 
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