S&W Super Duper Snub Nose Revolver Model 327PC .357 Magnum

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I was thinking to myself what would I want out of a new production revolver. I thought to myself I wanted a make of material and ergonomic advancements in revolvers I have yet to truly take a advantage of. I want the revolver to have 6+. I wanted a frame made from Scandium and the Titanium cylinder. I did not want a Jframe as I have the model 649 that I carry, and recently a model 337-1 with a 3" barrel that I enjoy shooting 148 grain WC out of. I really wanted a larger frame made from the light materials where the gun would be lighter than a full size gun but not so light where it's where ergonomics suffer. I wanted a snub nose barrel (2-3") because for my uses it has a functionally infinite range. The last criteria was a budget of $1000.

I did a bit of research to see if there was something in current or at least recent production that meets that criteria.

I saw the model 627 UDR, I like the idea of a nearly 3" barrel but I did not want a heavy stainless steel gun. The UDR is 8 shots of .357 magnum and 38 oz. Then using the model numbering convention I looked for the Scandium alloy version that when I found the performance center model 327PC 2" 8 shot N frame DA/SA revolver. Then I received sticker some serious sticker shock, MSRP $1300!! Internet search returns yielded several in the $1100 range. I finally found one and paid around $1000 shipped. I know there is a no less than 120 gr magnum bullet limitation on the revolver due to erosion of the cylinder. For me that just a small drawback hardly worth mentioning yet still important. I got a bunch of goodies some speed strips, a dozen moon clips and Apex spring kit with extended firing pin (as well as the originals). It also came with some custom aftermarket red G-10 VZ grips. (as well as the originals).

Having the weapon in hand it was everything I wanted. The factory stocks were beautiful the VZ stocks were smaller and functional, which is certainly a good thing. It was a good go at making some comfortable stocks, in both cases. Both stocks wore on my hand when firing the hottest .357 magnum rounds we could formulate (handloads) the factory stocks dug into my hand and the VZ stocks squirmed in my grip a bit but were more comfortable and my experience with J frame magna stocks (my preferred style on my carry piece) made it more than manageable but far from comfortable.

I really wanted some perfect grips for my new ideal revolver. I considered many expensive, cheap, recommended, custom and even vintage stock options. I determined that unless I could find some wood stocks that absolutely fit my hand perfect, I will be in the same boat and they would be expensive. I determined a rubber grip stock might be the way to go. I would be giving up a few concealment options as the rubber is quite tacky. I Looked around and spent $20 and got some Hogue Monogrips model 25000 for S&W round butt N frame revolvers. This version has the finger grooves, soft, textured rubber and recessed for speedloaders and such. Problem solved! Control and accuracy is improved comfort is improved like 1000% percent. The Monogrips I purchased off of Amazon and I had them in a single day. Installation was nearly effortless and the fit was superb. Aesthetically, I believe the Hogue monogrip fits the gun more so than the wood and G-10 options I had on hand.

With this revolver I feel like I nearly got what I wanted. A sweet, smooth and deliberate DA mode and an amazing SA pull. I feel like this Hogue Monogrip stock more than met my criteria of ergonomic advancements, modern materials and performance center craftsmanship came together in just the right way to produce my new super duper snub nose revolver.


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Wow, that's a real beast! Good find! I use that monogrip on an Airlight .45ACP (325), and it makes it shootable for me. Tried wood grips on it once, and I do mean once-- one shot, and it went back in the range bag.
 
That is one of the only newer Smiths that I like. The barrel looks comically short for the frame size but I like the bulldog image.

That barrel length makes no sense. It should be chambered for 9x19 or barrel length should be 4".
They did make optimal defensive revolvers in Nightguard line. What happened?
 
3” or 4” I’m on that gun. Snub just strikes me as odd. It’s like a snubby X frame... what’s the point. You take a massive frame and put on the shortest barrel you can. The frame size kills concealability so why handicap the gun with a tiny barrel. Everybody has their own thoughts so I’m happy for OP since he likes it. I like the gun with the next barrel length.
 
That's an interesting gun.

I recently collected some chronograph data on H110 loads out of a 3" 357. Even with 16.4 grains of powder, I could only get the 158 gr bullets up to a little under 1200 fps. I'm going to try pushing it to 16.5 or 16.6 grains to see what I get. Recoil was sharp from an L frame.

None the less, they were certainly adequate for self defense and I imagine an N frame would handle recoil well.
 
Ruger's Custom Shop is somehow squeezing eight .357 chambers in a GP100. If they ever made a snub version, that would be an interesting way to go.
Isn't the GP frame somewhat the same size as a Smith L-frame? Smaller at any rate than an N-frame, right?
 
You take a massive frame and put on the shortest barrel you can.
I think when it's that short, it's not a barrel..... bucket, maybe....

Everybody has their own thoughts so I’m happy for OP since he likes it.
Yup. I like my 6" barrel snake guns, but many like them in 4". Sounds like the OP did some serious searching to find it, glad there was something for him at the end of his search rainbow.
 
Ruger's Custom Shop is somehow squeezing eight .357 chambers in a GP100. If they ever made a snub version, that would be an interesting way to go.
Isn't the GP frame somewhat the same size as a Smith L-frame? Smaller at any rate than an N-frame, right?

As far as I know their only 8 shot 357's are on the Redhawk frame. Got a link?
 
You all know the barrel is 2”. It appears smaller than it is because half of it is inside the frame.

As far as the guy saying the gun is unbalanced is not true. It feels great points very well.

Everyone showed some great guns. Yet they are all massive revolvers most weigh double if not more than this revolver. Throwing a 5” barrel 6” barrel changes the dynamic of the gun.
 
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I’d love to own one of these. If they ever offer it without the lock I will definitely be in the market. I might get one someday even with the lock. At 20 oz, I wouldn’t be shooting anything more than +p 38s from it personally.
 
I’d love to own one of these. If they ever offer it without the lock I will definitely be in the market. I might get one someday even with the lock. At 20 oz, I wouldn’t be shooting anything more than +p 38s from it personally.
We have a Ruger LCR (Little Cute Revolver) in store for sale that weighs in at 15 oz on my digital, state certified jewelry scale. Not sure I'd even go to +P's on that little .357.
 
I’d love to own one of these. If they ever offer it without the lock I will definitely be in the market. I might get one someday even with the lock. At 20 oz, I wouldn’t be shooting anything more than +p 38s from it personally.

The N frame and the full grip make full house .357 just fine brother man.
 
Reading the fine print, it's a "Super GP-100". Apparently a different animal than the standard GP-100. Pure physics won't allow 8 357 Magnums in the original GP cylinder, no doubt the reason for the "Super" version.

Dave
 
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The Super GP100 is built on the Super Redhawk frame that has had the barrel extension portion of the frame removed.
 
...II looked for the Scandium alloy version that when I found the performance center model 327PC 2" 8 shot N frame DA/SA revolver. Then I received sticker some serious sticker shock, MSRP $1300!! Internet search returns yielded several in the $1100 range. I finally found one and paid around $1000 shipped. I know there is a no less than 120 gr magnum bullet limitation on the revolver due to erosion of the cylinder. For me that just a small drawback hardly worth mentioning yet still important. I got a bunch of goodies some speed strips, a dozen moon clips and Apex spring kit with extended firing pin (as well as the originals). It also came with some custom aftermarket red G-10 VZ grips. (as well as the originals).


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ancientnoob...Nice S&W! If that was mine I'd carry it daily.
 
I'll say that's a super cool gun. I have a 627 "Pro" myself, but that's a completely different beast than what the OP has. For starters, the 327 weighing in at 23oz vs mine at 40.

An SP101 handles .357 mag well enough and it's a 26oz revolver, I'm sure the larger frame of the 327 would help as well.

Either way, super cool revolver, I'd love to shoot one.
 
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