Sad Sad day for my PT1911

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Ok I bought a PT1911 it was a super shooter and died at 750rds somthing with the safety. I sent it back and amazingly got it back in 3months. Now I have put exactly 481rds through it and Tuesday at the range my first shot the 481st shot something broke internally I'm guessing firing pin but not sure. It would not fire after that so I wen't to my local dealer today and he phoned it in (He also could not tell for sure what broke). After the discussion on the phone they will be sending me a brand new gun, but it will take 6-8months oh how sad I feel today.
So my question are all company's truly this backed up?
I posted this on the other THR but thought I would put it here.
 
Im sorry to hear about your problem, that just sucks. 6-8 months sounds like an eternity without your pistol but it wouldnt surprise me with everyone at 125% capacity that quality control has "went down the drain" if you will. With everyone and their dog buying firearms means more people with problems and more work for the companies on top of trying to keep up with supply and demand. So it wouldnt surprise me with the long wait time.
 
Unfortunately, this is a typical Taurus story. My experience parallels your exactly except I told them to send money, not a new pistol.

I suggest that you do the same and then use it to buy a reasonably reliable 1911 made by someone else.

Alternately, you could get a decent gunsmith to look at your Taurus locally and save a lot of time.

RMD
 
at that point i'd ask for a refund as well. then like rduckwor suggested, maybe use the funds towards another 1911. in the price range, many are happy with RIA tacticals, or even some entry level springfields.
 
8 months? Heck it will probably be banned by then.

Just how hard can it be for em to cough up a new pistol?? (which I would sell immediately to rid yourself of that Taurus POS)
 
for the 8,371,205,83 time, you get what you pay for in 1911s. Heard this story about the PT1911 many times now. Fix it, sell it, move onto something worth owning (if you like the 1911 platform) or stick to modern pistols such as Glock, HK, MnP, etc. Good luck. :eek:
 
"or a local gunsmith...."

To throw more good money after bad? Like lipstick on a pig..:scrutiny:
 
lol, ya. just trying to lay out all his options.

my vote goes for demanding a refund and getting something like an RIA tactical if he still wants a 1911 in teh same price range. lots of people happy with those, not so much the tauruses. also in the sub 500 range are plenty of lightly used glocks, XDs, and there's also CZs if he wants metal.
 
"my vote goes for demanding a refund and getting something like an RIA tactical if he still wants a 1911 in teh same price range. lots of people happy with those, not so much the tauruses. also in the sub 500 range are plenty of lightly used glocks, XDs, and there's also CZs if he wants metal."

Agreed. Most people seem happy with their RIAs. What I like about them is, they dont pretend to be something they are not. They dont pretend to be the equal of higher end 1911s, they just make it clear they make a 1911 for less $$$$ for those who dont wanna spend a lot on a 1911. Taurus on the other hand attempts to give people the impression they are getting a top end 1911 for less $$$$.
 
armscor makes good stuff. no, it's not high dollar stuff but the their guns plain work. many IPSC shooters in the philippines use their guns no problem. they also supply frames to tanfoglio and STI. when you walk into their factory and shop there's tanfoglio and STI stuff everywhere, lol. probably only thing you need with them would be a match grade bushing, that's about it... again, from what i hear. i'm not a 1911 guy.
 
I am blessed with a good local gunsmith.
My inclination would be to show him any failed gun first. If it were some huge flaw, I would send it back on guarantee, but for something minor, I would rather pay him to fix it right away than pay Fed-Up and wait until the company warranty clerk got around to it.

NO ambidextrous 1911 thumb safety is as durable and reliable as the standard. I have them only on competition guns, my carry guns are standard... but then I am right handed.

The OP does not describe the present failure mode, but I suspect something awry in the firing pin obstruction which is similar to Colt Series 80.
 
Broken parts

Find a old GI who knows how to field strip a 1911. All the parts can be ordered. Gt a decent manual or direction on fitting the parts.
Your current gunsmith does not seem interested or educated in basic 1911 function.
Its very possible that a simple broken part is the problem. Order a quality part online.
Doing it this way will teach you how to maintain your pistol and you don't have to rely on others to fix it. Just like basic auto repair.
Any quality firearm can have a broken part. Your just more so then others.
You could buy another pistol, but you would still be at the mercy of others.
 
My first 1911, a SA Black Stainless had the extractor hook break off within the first few hundred rounds. SA paid shipping both ways and fixed it quick. I have a couple good local smiths, and now realize that I could have taken the gun to one of them and had it fixed in a few minutes. Since that event I have learned to detail strip the gun, and have replaced all of the ignition parts.

I agree that I can avoid any issues with the old style gun by getting a Glock. I have a 34. It does not have a 1911 trigger, nor a grip safety, nor a thumb safety, so I shoot the 9mm 1911 more.
 
It’s ironic that people buy the Taurus 1911 and then report how great they are, but they really haven’t put enough rounds through them to make such a judgment. It costs a certain amount of money to make a basic 1911, and a certain amount more to make a 1911 with all the bells and whistles. For the most part, the name rolled on the slide doesn’t add much, if any, to the price of the gun. Parts cost $X and labor costs $Y. If someone comes along and is selling a 1911 with all the bells and whistles for considerably less than everyone else, they either had to skimp on the parts or the labor (or both) [EDIT TO ADD: or less on the marketing. Taurus spends as much or more on advertising than some of the other makers.] No matter how much a guy likes building pistols, if he’s good he’s going to get paid a certain amount of money for doing so. In other words, his love of gun making isn’t going to motivate him to work for a lower salary just so the manufacturer can charge less.

So if Taurus wants to charge $450 for a 1911 that everyone else is charging $750, then Taurus has to put $300 less into their 1911 if they’re going to make a profit. That means cheaper MIM parts internally, less attention to fit and finish, less quality control, and less on customer service. Sorry, it’s simple economics. Most shooters will never find the weak links because most shooters don’t shoot their pistols as though their lives depend on them. Some will come into the forums and claim their Taurus 1911 has been great for 10,000 rounds, and that can certainly happen, but are they the rule or the exception?

Just my humble opinion...
 
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you will appreciate John Moses Browning and his design
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And despise what the bean counters, liability phobists, and gimmickers have done to it.
The OP had his first failure with a superfluous part and I suspect the second is with another add-on. I like a beavertail grip safety for comfort and sights I can see to hit with but some of that stuff is just bad.
 
It's your money and your gun. Do let other people spend your money for you.

But even if you take it to a gunsmith, are you really going to have faith in the gun

Lots of options, low to high cost.
 
If you get a good Taurus, you have a good gun. But if you get a bad Taurus, you have a problem. Customer service and satisfaction do not dwell in the heart of this company.

Ask for your money back. If you can do a quick fix on this gun locally, what will break next time? Time to move on.
 
I hate this for you. I'm not knocking Taurus since I only own a Model 85 revolver (my wifes car gun).

With that said, I agree, you generally get what you pay for. There any many good 1911's on the market. I have never owned a Springfield, but their customer service is beyond reproach based on owner reports.

Get your money back; get a Springer.
 
Big Daddy,

empty your 1911 and lock back the slide. Take a skinny dowel or punch or another object and push in that round circle in the very back and center of the slide. the firing pin should poke out the other end and you can see if its broken. If so, buy a new one.
 
Taurus owners take a pretty bad bashing from a lot of gun snob types. Every manufacturer has guns that need to be returned for one thing or another and Taurus makes so many guns you will hear of more problems than with others. The PT 1911 is a nice pistol and no more problematic or a POS than any other. There are countless happy owners.
 
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