Safety notch problem on my remington 1858

[Fingers McGee]

GOTC,

I've got three of the Pietta Marshall Model '51s (two .44s and one .36). I haven't been able to get a definitive reply from Pietta on the finish. What I have gotten from them is that they are a highly polished carbon steel with a hardened finish. Not sure what exactly that means. It's not nickle or stainless but something that is stain and rust resistant. I bought all of mine used, and they have been reliable and fun to shoot. First thing I did to each one was disassemble, deburr & install Treso Nipples.

Here's a picture of the .36


Fingers

 

[sundance44s]

GOTC ..Thats one I have never owned .. it is eye candy though.
Maybe when times get easyer..I`ll give one a shot.

 

[NCWanderer]

Hey GOTC

Don't give him something too pretty. He might be afraid he'll mess it up by just shooting it. He might just hang it on the wall instead. I would suggest a sort of Plain Jane Colt or Remie. You know what I mean. A real shooter that he wouldn't worry if it got a scratch or ding now and then.
Just my 2 cents worth
NC

 

[Jim K]

I think there got to be some confusion here. The OP and most of the other responders were talking about the safety notches in the rear of the Remington-type cylinder. If the gun is made correctly, it is perfectly safe to lower the hammer into those notches and carry all six chambers loaded.

Some posters appear to be talking about the safety notch in the hammer of a SAA type revolver (percussion guns don't have a safety notch). Resting the hammer in that notch is not very safe because any significant blow on the hammer will break the thin trigger and drive the firing pin into the primer of a cartridge under the hammer. For those guns, either carry with an empty chamber under the hammer or with the hammer down between rounds.

It is interesting that the makers of repro Remingtons do put in the cylinder safety notch, but makers of Colt repros almost never install safety pins, even though they cut the hammer for them. If installed and used, the Colt safety pins are as good as the Remington cylinder notch.

Jim

 

[klalewicz]

I'm glad I started this thread. Seemed to have stirred some things up!

 

[GENTLEMAN OF THE CHARCOAL]

Fingers, yeah that look's like something close to the .44 except the one on Cabela's website showed it with the plain wooden grips. Thanks for the info. The fact that you have found them to be (#1 RELIABLE) and (#2 FUN TO SHOOT) really told me what I was trying to find out....NC Wanderer, you have a good point but he is a good friend. Thought about giving him one of my worked on Pietta Remington .44 Armies to kind of help him get started but I just couldn't bear to part with it. Out of the question....Well, I'vd never shot one of them either sundance. Never seen one in real life and only knew what Cabela's had to say about it and it is pretty although I myself prefer my Army Model Remingtons. (next to the Uberti Walkers of course)..Thank ya'll. Ya'll have been helpful....

 

[Fingers McGee]

GOTC, my .44s are as pictured in the Cabelas catalog, brass BS/TG & one piece walnut grips. Just didn't have a picture of one of them handy. The .36 was that same way when I bought it. The polished in-the-white BS/TG and faux ivory grips came from a Great Western II. Thought they made the pistol look better. Would like to do same with the .44s if I can find some reasonably priced parts for them. Prices for parts have skyrocketed of late.

 

[sundance44s]

I`ve got a few revolvers I`ve polished in the white ...they do clean easy ..and I like them better than the stainless steel ones I`ve owned .
Some of the Italian stainless steel is a little soft ..compaired to the regular steel guns.

 

[GENTLEMAN OF THE CHARCOAL]

I'vd never messed with stainless or nickled hardly. I have a stainless Pietta Remington 1858 New Model Army (not Target Model) but I'vd never shot it much. Maybe 12 times. I just feel so exposed using stainless. I like blued steel. Not much reflection and the sun or moon or stars won't reflect off of it and let someone see you 15 miles away.... I guess I'm going to present him with the .44 U.S. Marshall's Model. His wife will probably take it away from him and keep it for herself but I don't reckon I care. I can't really afford it but who the hell can afford anything nowadays anyway?....

 

[Tommygunn]

It is interesting that the makers of repro Remingtons do put in the cylinder safety notch, but makers of Colt repros almost never install safety pins, even though they cut the hammer for them. If installed and used, the Colt safety pins are as good as the Remington cylinder notch.

Hmmmm. Uberti installs them on all their Colts. Pietta installed them on their 1860 Army models, and did not used to on their 1851 Navy. But I have noticed that as of a few years ago they have started to.
In the early 1990s when I started BP I bought some Armi San Marco revolvers. Their colts never had the pins back then, but I once saw an earlier 1861 Navy they had made and it had the pins.

As for Palmetto or Euroarms .... don't know.

 

[Smiling Bob]

Hellgate,

Sent you a PM

Smiling Bob

SOORY Wrong Post

Smiling Bob

 

[Jaymo]

The 51 Marshals probably are nitrided. It's harder than hard chrome, and more rust resistant, too.