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Sarsimilaz SAR-9 Glock Clone with manual safety

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by JohnKSa, May 8, 2018.

  1. JohnKSa

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    Handled one of these at the NRA Annual Convention in Dallas.
    http://sarsilmaz.com/en/catalog/product/SAR-9/13/114

    The booth attendant was kind enough to allow me to field strip the pistol. The slide is very Glockish inside. I'm not going to claim that parts will interchange, but it's more than just somewhat similar--it even has the Glock-style rectangular profile firing pin point and breechface opening. The biggest difference I saw (besides the externally different appearance) is the extractor.

    The barrel has conventional rifling for those who like that feature.

    The frame is where the big differences are:

    1. It has a grip with replaceable panels. At first glance, it looks very much like an H&K P30 grip. Still does at second and third glances--as many glances as you like and it still looks like an H&K P30 grip.

    2. There is an ambidextrous manual safety on the gun--at least on the one I handled. It does appear from the SAR website that the pistol can also be had without a manual safety.

    3. The frame parts are contained in a steel "module" which is the serial-numbered item. There's a "window" on the right side of the frame that allows the serial # to show through. I did not attempt to remove the module so I have no idea how easy or hard it is to take it out of the frame.

    4. In spite of the module holding all the internal frame parts, the parts themselves will look very familiar to anyone who has experience with Glocks. Again, I'm not going to claim that parts interchange, but it wouldn't surprise me greatly if that turned out to be the case with at least one or two parts.

    Dimensionally speaking, it's probably closer to a Glock 17 than a Glock 19, however in spite of that, capacity is 15 rounds--at least according to the Sarsimilaz website--other sources list the mag capacity as 17 rounds.

    It's available in stainless and black finish.

    I'll be interested to see if people who like the general Glock design but want a manual safety, or a more user-configurable grip end up gravitating to this pistol.
     
  2. bannockburn

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    I thought that too when I first saw the gun. Seems kind of like if Glock and H&K got together, the SAR-9 might be their offspring...just sayin'!
     
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    It begs the argument why buy a clone when the original is not that expensive?
     
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    No idea how it will work (although the Sarsilmaz guns I've seen were well made), but at least they've dealt with the 2"x4" ergonomics!
     
  5. someguy2800

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    Never heard of the the company but I've seen the SAR9 advertised. I thought they were being imported by EAA. It would be interesting to try the trigger on it side by side with some other stuff.
     
  6. WestKentucky

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    You almost have me sold. Set the hook...
     
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    Going to the link that was in the original post, I can't really say that they make a gun I wouldn't consider owning. Their revolver looks kinda funny but the polished one is pretty nice, then over to the slide guns once you get down to the tlevel of the SAR9 and SAR10 I get really interested.
     
  8. MAKster

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    It is my understanding that the SAR9 model purchased by the Turkish military does not have the thumb safety. The safety was added because of import rules.
     
  9. Al-jim19

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    A Not Glock trying to be a Glock but worse because it has a manual safety.

    Pass.
     
  10. JohnKSa

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    In this case, the clone is even less expensive (under $400 from what I can see) but that's not the main issue. This gun has a number of features that the Glock pistols do not, primarily a much more configurable grip and a manual safety. If SAR managed to keep the functionality/reliability of the Glock design while providing features the Glock does not, and at a lower price, I think some people might find that a winning combination.

    Note the big "If". I have no idea how the gun shoots, I just thought it was an interesting design. Actually, what initially caught my eye was the grip. I thought at first that the gun was a P30 clone, but it turns out that the resemblance to the P30 stops with the grip.
     
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    Very interesting. Parts and service can be troublesome for these sorts of pistols, so it would be much more interesting if it was at all Glock compatible. It also opens the door for customization.
     
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    I think their revolvers a good looking guns
     
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    That's a good looking pistol, IMO. Tip of the trigger and trigger dingus look razor sharp though.
     
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    At that price I would be tempted to try one. Would make for a good car/truck gun. Like their L frame type revolvers as well. That SR-38 with the 2.5" barrel and the polished stainless finish is very attractive.
     
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    IMO, a manual safety on a striker fired gun with a Glock style trigger is completely not needed. I was merely pointing out that the SAR-9 can be had for almost $200 less than a Glock. The Turks know how to make good guns. I've owned Caniks, SARs, and Tisas guns, and all have been good.
     
  18. Slater

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    Turkey takes proven designs, adds a tweak here and there, and sells them under their own brands. Must save them a few bucks on R&D.
     
  19. stchman

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    And so does every other gun maker in the world, this is nothing new. Except Glock that is, but Glock only makes one gun in different sizes and calibers.
     
  20. Hokkmike

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    Yes, Like I said many people do not like the safety on this type of gun.
     
  21. Panzerschwein

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    A manusafety AND a dingus??

    WHY!?!?!?
     
  22. drobs

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    I too see little value if buying copies of readily available guns. If price was an issue, I'd rather buy a used original over a Turkish copy.
    I'll stick with my Glocks. The single side safety - makes the worthless to us left handers.

    Think I'd rather buy a Ruger All American Compact for $359.99 over that Turkish gun.
    https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsupers...n-pistol-compact-9mm-luger-with-manual-safety

    Has all the same features.
     
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  23. Kano383

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    The “dingus” is just a part of the drop safety, it is NOT a safety preventing the trigger from being pulled inadvertently.

    No duplication of roles here.
     
  24. rpenmanparker

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    Guys, tell me something about the external manual safety. If you don't like it, why not just not engage it? Why complain about it being there for those who would want to use it when you can just ignore it?
     
  25. someguy2800

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    Because if you don't practice taking it off constantly it will eventually get bumped on when you don't want it to. I don't have any use for a safety on a revolver or striker fired gun so it can't do anything but foul me up.
     
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