Scenes from a Philippine Gun Show :)

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An Executive Order from the President

Section 2. Henceforth, all citizens of the Philippines may possess firearms of any type and/or caliber,
Provided that such firearms are not classified as crew-served weapons (CSWs),
light anti-tank weapons (LAWs), light machine guns (LMGs), anti-tank and anti-personnel
recoilless rifles, bazookas, etc.; Provided further that such firearms are
test-fired for ballistics, stenciled and properly licensed... (snip)"

"Henceforth, all citizens of the Unites States of America...."

Oh, sorry, I was imagining a time long past and dead in this country.
Excuse me while I check on today's progress of Americans re-linking their
chains. :banghead:
 
Excuse me while I check on today's progress of Americans re-linking their chains. :banghead:

Hi TBL, :)
I do pray you Americans realize how good you still have it.

-We Filipinos don't have a Constitutionally-mentioned right to keep and bear.
On a WHIM, our President can suspend any of the 'privileges' we enjoy:
A couple of years ago, a road-rage shooting led to an astonishing nationwide
suspension/cancellation of carry permits, only somewhat recently restored.

-Relative to minimum wage, guns are much more affordable there in the U.S.
A $200 firearm over there can cost $350-$400 over here, before paperwork.

-Relative to minimum wage, ammo is so much more affordable there than here.
Even Filipino-made Armscor ammo costs nealry double here compared to there

-NIB firearms in the Philippines are mostly bought sight-unseen!
The units are ostensibly stored in a central government warehouse.
Given how relatively expensive some firearms are, that's a lot of blind trust,
often enough betrayed by merchandise that needs remedial work

-The waiting period on a new purchase here is supposedly 30-45 days max,
but as mentioned earlier, there have been many unlucky buyers in the past
who've had to wait over a year to see their purchases

-While it's true that automatics / select fire weapons are available here,
only a tiny fraction of the Filipino population can afford them.

-firearm manufacturer warranties are a joke here.

I do criticize the incremental violation of your right to keep and bear,
but that shouldn't suggest that I think we have it better than you.
Keep up the fight! If you guys cave, what'll happen to the rest of
the (shrinking) free world?

:)
h
 
I was informed by my local gun dealer that there is a scheduled gun show on July 13 - 17, 2006 at SM Megamall.
 
Any new gunshows in Manilla soon?

I´m going on holiday to this beautiful country next month, staying from mid december to 8 januari.
Just wondering if Horge or someone else, are aware of any new gunshow in that time
Preferable in Manilla area?
 
There might not be one as its the holidays which are celebrated big time this time of the year. But I bet theres a lot of gunstore dealers in various parts of Metro Manila and surrounding cities who sells legit to public and the military. At least you get to see what they have in brands and whats sellable in that part of the world. From what i know 16 yrs ago, the taurus, colt, s w, feg, norincos, glocks, sigs are mostly the name of choice. SHotguns too are preferrred bec of the self defense capability . Names like Squire Bingham, norincos and mossberg are very strong. Filipinos also are fan of fancy gun accessories like laser add ons etc as influenced by the movies.
Stay safe. Dont let anyone know you got the dollar unless you cant hide it.
 
Gun show

Mr. Unique

There is a Gun Show scheduled this Nov. 23 - 26. Venue is SM Megamall. For those living outside the Philippines, its located within Metro Manila.
 
Thank you VERY much for that answer!
I will check it out.
And about the security issue i feel perfectly safe, going around Manilla with my PI- side of my family, who i`am also staying at during my hopefully great holiday.:)
 
Hey, I'm a new member and was wondering, my family owns a nice ammount of land outside cebu city and we're thinking of building a house down there. Since i come from another country getting dual citizenships could i buy semi-automatic weapons because in my country everything is illegal and would i be able to import from manilla? oh yea i want to be a collector.
 
I usually buy my registered firearms from legitimate firearms dealers. I do this to make sure everything is arranged and documented properly. I comes out a little expensive but saves you a lot of time and hassle.

The gun store I use is named Twin Pines, Inc. They have a store in Cebu so you shouldn't have any problems. I was told if you are a dual citizen they can help you process the firearms you plan to buy from them. Iimporting directly by yourself is a difficult process according to them.
 
Fvf, thanks for the help. And clearing some stuff up. Could anyone possibly tell me if silencers/suppressors + Accessories are legal in the Phillippines? or the M4 Carbine or the H&K G36K?
 
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Hi,
This thread does have a Phoenix-like character, dunn'it? :)


my family owns a nice ammount of land outside cebu city and we're thinking of building a house down there. Since i come from another country getting dual citizenships could i buy semi-automatic weapons because in my country everything is illegal and would i be able to import from manilla? oh yea i want to be a collector.

The Filipino half of your dual citizenship would entitle you to legally possess
up to 15 handguns and 6 rifles/shotguns (even more if the PNP-FED
Chief agrees). There are many gunstores and even gun manufacturers in
Cebu.

The law permits you to purchase select-fire firearms, but the government body
tasked with licensing/registration of firearms (PNP-FED) will do its utmost to
discourage you, especially after certain portions of the new Anti-Terrorism Act
were added.

That said, there occasionally used to be M4's going for as little as 120k
(pesos) --the cyclic rate reducers by FERFRANS really work. MP5's fetch
more, around 130k. Knockoff MAC-10's can be had from Danao (Cebu)
for as little as 35k, but beware --if the seller isn't a licensed gunstore, you want
to stay far, far away.

AFAIK there is no standing law on sound suppressors, as the basis for the
old one was repealed... but again, PNP-FED will harrass you no end if it puts
you and the words "sound suppressor" within the same time zone. I however
still see a number of DIY suppressors and GemTechs used at the firing ranges.
Nobody wants to openly discuss the legal vacuum, because discussion will only
spawn renewed legislative restrictions (too many lawmakers with nothing better
to do).

There are LOTS of gun stores in Cebu. Let them worry about importing from wherever.

hth.
 
Hi horge,
Thanks for the info you posted, very helpful.

Anyway I was just curious, Do the laws differ from say..Manila and Cavite?
I have a house in Tagaytay city. Would that entitle one to purchase in Manila?

Thanks
 
Horge, just got back from the Philippines couple of nights ago. Did not bother to let you know cause we cant go shooting anyway. I was even surprised to learn that even "air gun" was covered by the "gun ban". That sucks,:mad: as I was hoping to go bird (dove) hunting with my air rifle.
 
The Filipino half of your dual citizenship would entitle you to legally possess
up to 15 handguns and 6 rifles/shotguns (even more if the PNP-FED
Chief agrees). There are many gunstores and even gun manufacturers in
Cebu.

The law permits you to purchase select-fire firearms, but the government body
tasked with licensing/registration of firearms (PNP-FED) will do its utmost to
discourage you, especially after certain portions of the new Anti-Terrorism Act
were added.

That said, there occasionally used to be M4's going for as little as 120k
(pesos) --the cyclic rate reducers by FERFRANS really work. MP5's fetch
more, around 130k. Knockoff MAC-10's can be had from Danao (Cebu)
for as little as 35k, but beware --if the seller isn't a licensed gunstore, you want
to stay far, far away.

AFAIK there is no standing law on sound suppressors, as the basis for the
old one was repealed... but again, PNP-FED will harrass you no end if it puts
you and the words "sound suppressor" within the same time zone. I however
still see a number of DIY suppressors and GemTechs used at the firing ranges.
Nobody wants to openly discuss the legal vacuum, because discussion will only
spawn renewed legislative restrictions (too many lawmakers with nothing better
to do).

There are LOTS of gun stores in Cebu. Let them worry about importing from wherever.

hth.

Ok, thanks horge for the information helps alot, so does that mean M4's are hard to find at legitimate sources? also do you know if H&K G36K is legal for civilian use? thanks again for the info.
 
Hi wateman :)
Our laws on firearms are applied nationwide.
Higher concentration of gunstores in the capital than anywhere else
in the country, and it's great to browse gunstores inside Manila's
airconditioned mega-shopping malls.

No matter where you buy, you get issued a 7-day transport permit to
get your NIB blaster home to Tagaytay, along with your new license.
So long as you don't have to board a ship, plane, bus or other public
transport to get home, no probs.

Keep in mind, no licenses are issued during the election period, and it
can take 3 weeks minimum to get licensed, in normal times. Make sure
the gun you'rebuying is physically in-stock (have them quote the unit's
serial number) before putting down cash. As mentioned earlier, you will likely
be buying sight-unseen (!!!). If you're not careful, the gun won't actually
be in stock, and you will wait until a gun gets imported from wherever.

Python :(
Even most knives are covered by the election-period ban!
The timing on your visit really sucked, my friend.
You still could've visited Armscor firing range in Marikina, and
(depending on the day) rented or borrowed a Steyr AUG, M14, M3, etc...

Pun,
Very difficult now to find M4's for sale.
Again, select-fire is allowed by law (including the HK G36, if available),
However, the agency tasked with issuing licenses will refuse to
honor said law (again, partly due to countermanding parts of the new
Anti Terrorism Act), and gunstores just won't stock what they
know won't be licensed quickly (if at all) --consumers want their NIB guns
licensed pronto. Licenses are issued per firearm, not per owner.



hth,
horge
 
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Ok, Thanks horge, I don't mind playing the waiting game, but as long as i get it.
 
Phillipine GunShow

I am living in HK and would like to come to Manilla. I have interests in U.S. Rifle M1 Garands. Can anyone help me locate these, and tell me when the next gun show is ?
Thanks, Dave
 
Dave/CLINE34,

If I'm not mistaken, the next big Gun Show is going to be held from
July 12-17, 2007, at the SM MegaMall Trade Hall.... and then again in
November. This years theme is (IIRC) Firearms for Women Empowerment.

The shows are almost totally for brand new merch, so you won't likely be
finding any old M1A's there. Twin Pines (Rock Island Armory) is however
marketing its shiny new, select-fire M14's and AK47's, so you can at least
fondle/ogle*


hth,
horge

*Only Filipino citizens can buy guns in the Philippines. See recent/previous
posts above on additional, increased purchasing restrictions in the Philippines.
 
Horge, thats good news. A lot of new stuff coming, maybe civilians can now own those select fire m16s and aks.
 
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