Seacamp .32????

[rmmoore]

Hello out there in Gunland! Just wanted to get some input from fellow shooters. I just came back from a local gunshow where I picked up a Seacamp LWS .32ACP. I bought it "out the door" for $355.00. It's used, but in like new condition. It's been fired, but barely; no extractor marks, no magazine buttplate scratches either I've read a lot of good things about the Seacamp; and I know they're hard to come by, even used, so that must mean something. Of course, this WILL NOT be my primary CCW, a back-up perhaps. I view this as more of the 8pm, wife sends me to the store in gym shorts or sweats for a gallon of milk kind of thing. I can drop it in my pocket and noone will be the wiser. I was looking for a 9mm pocket piece when I found this little jewel. While not a huge fan of the .32, I tend to like it more than a .380. Can't explain why really, I just do. Regardless, EITHER one is better than a rock or a stick!!!! Anyone out there have any personal experience with the Seacamp? Any thoughts on my "deal"? Thanks.

 

[Azrael256]

I have a little experience with that model. It is finicky about ammo. Using what I think was a factory magazine, I couldn't get it to load more than one round of FMJ ammo. Hollowpoints seemed to feed just fine. No jams with ammo it liked.

It is obviously not a competition gun. It's definitely an "up close and personal" kind of gun. Accuracy at more than about 5' was a toss-up. The .32 isn't real powerful, but I'm not volunteering to take one in the chest. At the range the gun is designed for, it'll do.

You might look for a pocket holster. Otherwise pocket lint might cause you some trouble.

 

[41 magnum fan]

I have had one since 1996.Great little gun.Mine is carried a lot.Has been 100% reliable with all hollowpoint rounds that I have tried.The gun will not work with FMJ rounds,the overall length of the rounds is too long.Mine is not a the most accurate gun either.However it will keep all the rounds inside a 6 inch circle at 12 yards with no problem.You got a good price on your gun.The only negative of a Seecamp is that they are hard to field strip for cleaning.
I also have a Kel-Tec 32.I Prefer the Seecamp.The seecamp is more snag free than the KT and is also a tad smaller.My round of choice for mine is Georgia Arms 60 grain JHP.They are $27 a hundred rounds.Also like Winchester Silvertips and Speer Gold Dots.A few years ago I had a Seecamp 25 and it was a great gun too.Seecamp is making a 380 now to,will try one someday.Mine is carried in either my pants pocket or vest pocket without a holster.Spare magazines can be bought from Seecamp or from Gunbroker.

 

[nero45acp]

I own one. The pistol was designed to use Winchester Silvertips, though Seecamp now recommends a few other brands of ammo as well. Mine has been 100% reliable using the older type Winchester Silvertips (I've never tried any other brand). When I do carry mine (usually I CCW either a S&W 432PD or 640), I carry it in a Hedley rear pocket holster. Here a couple of (hopefully) helpful links:

http://seecamp.com/ammunition.htm

http://hedleyholsters.com


nero

 

[mec]

shot two of them one yesterday. One had been having function problems with most jhp loads including the current line of silvertips and hornady. Both guns appear to be entirely reliable with speer gold dots. They tend to deep seat the corbon jhps
These pistols need to be kept clean and lubricated.

 

[1 old 0311]

$350.00 is a pretty good price if it works. My .32 Seecamp was a Fail To Everything. The only thing worse was TRYING to get Seecamp to honor their warranty. Good luck.

 

[Ala Dan]

I've also got a Seecamp LWS-32 that I bought NIB for $360; but keep in
mind that I'm in the retail firearms business. Mine is a prefect carry gun
in summer dress, or as a back-up when wearing heavy winter clothing.
It has been 100% reliable with all types of JHP's ammo, as I've not even
tried too shoot FMJ out of it~! There have been absolutely NO issues
with this fine little firearm.

 

[pocketgun]

rmmoore, be sure to read the manual (or download it from the Seecamp Website) before you mess around with it too much, as it is possible to damage it if you manage to do certain things.

The magazine was designed to prevent rimlock by eliminating the extra space in the magazine needed to accomodate a normal length FMJ round. It is possible to remove the spacer and use FMJ, but may not be the best idea depending on how new it is, as the materials used in the newer pistols are stronger. The new Winchester truncated cone FMJ should work without modification.

Check out the Seecamp Forum for more info.

+1 on the Hedley Holster for the little pistol!

 

[usp9]

WOW! Congratulations.

You made a wise purchase at a good price. As mentioned the Seecamp forum has a wealth of info. Accuracy is about what you'd expect. When you get used to it, you'll shoot some tight groups at 7 yards or so. I've had mine for many years, and it has become my 99.9% carry due to the easy, effortless method of carrying it, and the 99.9999% reliability, (had a misfeed once).

Keep it clean, don't expect it to be a range gun, lube lightly (eezox is good), stick to suggested ammo, maybe practice some point and shoot technique and I predict you too will become a fan of the "Rolex of Pocketguns"

Do not put FMJ ammo through it, do not expect 1" groups at 25 yards, do not work the action without a magazine inserted...hmmmm...that's all the don'ts I can think of.

Enjoy.

 

[MICHAEL T]

Don't pay any attention to "Kevin Quinlan" He had trouble many many years ago and Larry Seecamp even said on line he was sorry for his problems but he won't let it die. Even after many many years. He also attacks Kel Tecs and I not sure he has ever owned one. He just like to cry, and get noticed.

 

[arizona]

+1 on the Rolex of pocket pistols.

I have used one for many years and it is great for deep carry.

When I can’t properly conceal my 642, I go with the Seecamp.

 

[1 old 0311]

Hi Michael T,

The question was asked " Anyone have any personal experience with the Seecamp?" YES I DID. I was unable, as were others, to get Seecamp to honor their warranty. Other than a troll, your contribution to this topic is what???????

 

[FPrice]

Don't pay any attention to "Kevin Quinlan"

I can't vouch for any problems with Seecamp but in my dealings with Mr. Quinlan he has been very much an honorable man to deal with.

That aside, my Seecamp has been very reliable.

 

[usp9]

FPrice said:

I can't vouch for any problems with Seecamp but in my dealings with Mr. Quinlan he has been very much an honorable man to deal with.

No dispute with honor, however, over many, many posts I've read on this and several other forums, KQ seems to have a deep seated pathological hated for all things Seecamp that goes WAY BEYOND a decade old problem with a pistol.

Of the 50,000 or so guns manufactured by LWS Co., very few are problematic. Twenty years of use and a history of overwhelmingly positive owner praise, put the LWS line in a ranking few guns enjoy. Almost all of the comments you'll read concerning Seecamp firearms fall into two catagories, either price or praise. Why is it expensive? Quality and demand. Why is a HK P7 so expensive? Quality and demand.

Price by the way is a factor the retailer controls...not the manufacturer. Kev...let it go...it's in the past.

 

[1 old 0311]

Hi Usp9,

I was unaware there was a statute of limitations in dealing with a shoddy manufacture. I notice you don't dispute the accuracy of what I said, rather my right to be pissed at a scam company. I stand humbly corrected.

 

[FPrice]

Before a moderator steps in we should all note that this thread is about Seecamp pistols, not about any forum members. We should do our best to keep it that way.

 

[usp9]

KQ said:

I notice you don't dispute the accuracy of what I said, rather my right to be pissed at a scam company.

Then to be clear...Yes, I dispute your accuracy.

 

[rmmoore]

My apologies if I struck a nerve. I'm simply looking for info on a product I have no experience with. As many of you may have noted from my other posts, I am a CCW Instructor. As such, I am expected to provide not only useful, but accurate information as some of my students may someday risk their lives on data I provide. I therefore will not give either praise or disdain for ANYTHING I don't believe in, or willing to bet MY life on. I purchased this pistol for my personal use, and of course will spend much time up close and personal with it before carrying; just as I teach others to do! Thanks for the input, even some of the "questionable" negative comments are useful. I take it all with a grain of salt until I prove (or disprove) otherwise. You can get a lemon buying a Cadillac, BMW, Mercedes, or a Chevy. Price doesn't "always" mean perfection, although it is a good indicator. Thanks again for the input, I think I'll go burn some powder and find my Seacamp's "pet load". Happy shootin'

 

[FPrice]

My apologies if I struck a nerve.

Not your fault, you just asked an honest question. As far as a pet load, try the Gold Dots.

 

[gringolet]

goo stuff

I own a 32 seecamp...fine little item..glad I have it...and
am on the list for a 380. is not a daily shooter, gets a test
now and again and carried often. for its purpose as a
close personal defensive pistol it is an excellent choice.
some of the so-called "concealment" pistols are not much
for concealment...I own some of those also and use them
mostly in my briefcase or car console...in the pocket they carry
about like a box of baking soda, the seecamp all but disappears.
While my p32 is back at the shop
for its odd ailment, my seecamp is good to go...worth the
difference in price? you dang skippy.

 

[ravencon]

My Seecamp .32 digested both HP and FMJ without a problem. I didn't put a huge number of rounds through it before I sold it though.

I sold it because I just wasn't comfortable ever relying on a .32. I concluded that with a little more effort I can always figure out a way to conceal a more substantial weapon.

 

[gringolet]

goo stuff??

goo stuff? missed my D..good stuff.
I think the debate is more around bore size when gun size defines the pocket gun...some guys just gotta have a 9mmP or a 38 or larger to feel they are sufficiently armed...and, as a rule, such guns become increasingly less concealable...a guy can wear his field jacket to the grocery store..or a fanny/belly pack...or gang-banger-style
trousers I suppose..or he can carry a really concealable pistol, but it is a trade-off away from a true concealment piece. Rohrbaugh makes a 9mm that fits into the concealment category..the kahr pm9 is close, but just a bit on the other side of the line and both are useful in the 9mm category if you gotta have it. In fact, I am interested in the rohrbaugh myself. But life experience has taught me that a 32 or a 380 is not the useless caliber some would have you believe. Over many years many thousands of men have carried them successfully and I have seen them put to unquestionably effective use. they are not service class sidearms...they are pocket guns...and good ones...or goo ones if you prefer.

 

[JERRY]

so, one can remove a spacer from the seecamp magazine so it will accept and fire FMJ?

if thats true, it would open up the seecamp idea a lot more for me. a .32acp h.p. in such a small gun just isnt for me. but FMJ will at least penetrate adequately even if it has to go though an arm first....

 

[pocketgun]

Supposedly, if your serial number is 31000 and above, it is safe (but not factory recommended) to do this. Alternately, you can use the truncated cone Winchester White Box stuff with the spacer in place. Not sure if the serial number matters with the WWB.

 

[pocketgun]

Here are some links on ball in a Seecamp:

LINK 1

LINK 2 - check out page two.