Second guessing the AR for SD

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Your post is full of assumptions about how home defense situations arise and how people plan.

Unless you have actually experienced an actual home invasion or had to deal with an aggressive person on your property all anyone has to go on is what you think might happen. I plan on being able to defend myself in all situations. YMMV.
 
How do you CC an AR?

That is a good reason not to own an AR **sarcasm**.

I plan on being able to defend myself in all situations. YMMV.

Same here. An AR, IMHO, is the best all around HD weapon and I will be ready. I live outside a metro area with a history of riots. If things go south, I don't want to be wishing I had the AR in my hands.
 
Well, I sorted out the answering the door for strangers conundrum. I put up a 6' tall perimeter fence with a giant GSD and a fat pitbull behind it.

https://youtu.be/-nbsN91Zec4

Can't recall anyone making it to my door, since.

I also have 360 degree dusk til dawn lighting.



The posters that said mentioned the "stranger at the door" ruse were spot on.
 

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Coaltrain, no one here is saying YOU have to use an AR-15 for defensive purposes. I've yet to see that comment be made. The arguments put forth concerning the AR's suitability for self-defense are all valid and applicable to the OP. Nonsense about other situations, other states, or concealed carry simply aren't applicable here, despite your efforts to make them so. If you don't think the AR-15 is a prudent choice as a defensive weapon, by all means, please pick one you'd like better or find more suitable....but don't expect everyone else to follow suit or agree with your thoughts on the matter
 
My AR pistol is under 26", which makes it "concealable" according to the ATF. Considering some can carry 1911's and hide them well, there's a lot of leeway on the subject.

Not to forget the Secret Service conceal carry submachine guns. Me, I have a Wilson tennis racquet bag, and MO allows it in the front seat loaded.

The reality is the most home intrusions occur for a very few well defined reasons. 1) you stole property from someone else and they are coming to get it, 2) you shelter a manipulative female who's freely dispensing her favors.

Don't steal your druglord's stash or his girlfriend. Duh. More than that is mostly internet chest thumping, which we now seem to have sunk to.
 
Don't steal your druglord's stash or his girlfriend.

I don't think that anyone will argue that a bad lifestyle doesn't attract crime. However, a low percentage chance doesn't mean we shouldn't plan for an event. Increasingly, home invasions seem to happen to people that are vulnerable, and/or have a lot of "stuff".
 
My AR pistol is under 26", which makes it "concealable" according to the ATF. Considering some can carry 1911's and hide them well, there's a lot of leeway on the subject.

Not to forget the Secret Service conceal carry submachine guns. Me, I have a Wilson tennis racquet bag, and MO allows it in the front seat loaded.

The reality is the most home intrusions occur for a very few well defined reasons. 1) you stole property from someone else and they are coming to get it, 2) you shelter a manipulative female who's freely dispensing her favors.

Don't steal your druglord's stash or his girlfriend. Duh. More than that is mostly internet chest thumping, which we now seem to have sunk to.
That used to be the case around here. However in the last few years we have been seeing home invasions used more and more as just another tactic by burglary crews. While the chances of being a victim of one are still very low, gone are the days when it only happened to criminals.
 
What we are seeing is more press on the subject. Absent crime statistics to actually prove it, not so much.

Nonetheless the internet warrior uses his perception that there is an increase to justify his focus - on firearms as the solution. It's an firearms forums, we get posts on that a lot.

The real solution is security of lifestyle, property, and accessibility. If there seems to be more intrusions because people have more "stuff," consider that it's NOT more widespread, it's a certain demographic. OVERALL the public has less disposable income, the ranks of those in poverty increasing, more homeless, the middle class shrinking every year.

What we have is those in the middle and upper demographic with more stuff - who aren't being very smart about putting on the show. Drive thru McMansionville in a cleaner vehicle and nobody will get you a second look on Saturday morning when they have the garage door open to display their step tread aluminum toolchests, gun safes, and sport vehicles. In the evening the big screen TV is going right across from the picture window. I people are being broken in because they have more "stuff," it goes to showing it off for the public to notice.

Crime stats point out most burglaries occur because their was an advance man casing the house six weeks prior. You let him in - under pretense of other work - he got an idea of what could be reaped from an illegal entry, and the crew came to harvest.

Those dudes aren't walking 15 miles from the inner city to the suburbs and carrying it all back. They are equipped with vehicles and guns - they are not a street corner 'banger.' They prey on their neighbors as a living, and proximity to their hangout has a lot to do with who they invade.

It takes a ignoring a lot of security to let them in to case the joint, and a lot of hutzpah to display marketable wealth for them to be interested. If your security plan is going right, they don't get an idea you are worth ripping off because there is nothing to see when they come in or look thru the windows. If they can even get to them.

These guys are NOT acting on random targets. Don't be a target and they don't know about you. Keep valuables out of sight and you reduce your attractiveness.

What I see are posters who don't want to scale back their consumer display of wealth now wondering if others will take it away, and adopting lethal force as their only countermeasure. It's like establishing a forward base at the bottom of four hills and then having an administrative routine that ignores security. Are you setting yourself up for your own personal Wanat?

You can get pizza delivered faster, when seconds count the police are minutes away.
 
As a cop I can say that we are seeing it more often. Not just in the rich areas either. Also not all burglary/robbery crews do advanced recon. We had a crew here recently that was hitting 5-10 houses a day. Ive also been on a home invasion where the crew got the wrong house. Was there for a drug rip and got the address wrong.
 
I agree with most of the others. It is a very versatile, and fun rifle to shoot. With different ammo, you can tailor what you want to do with it. When the disenfranchised come over the hill, you will want to have it.
 
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