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securing an ar-15 in an suv

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by dakotasin, Dec 15, 2009.

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  1. dakotasin

    dakotasin Member

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    does anybody have a good way to store an ar-15 in an suv? my ar rides w/ me everyday, but it can be a nuisance to have to get it off the passenger seat every time i need to give somebody a ride.

    i don't mind building something, but need some pointers, even pics. my suv has a sunroof, which makes a roof-mount somewhat tricky, but i would like to have the gun accessible to me at all times in the truck.

    thanks for any pointers...
     
  2. jobu07

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    I suppose this all depends on how accessible you want it. For instance, do you want a rack system in the rear of the vehicle so you can get to it in the event of an emergency? If you're expecting to travel through Mosul anytime soon, though, you might just let the rifle rest on your lap.
     
  3. ChaoSS

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    You can buy gun racks like the cops use in their cars, or used to use, seems it's been awhile since I've seen a cop with a long gun that wasn't secured in the trunk, but they make them that can secure your gun on the roof, on the dash, between the seats, on the back window of a car, on the floor behind the front seats, it really depends on how your SUV is laid out and where you have room for it. A good gun rack can be locked or left unlocked, and some could even incorporate something that shields the trigger so you don't fire your gun if you or someone in the car throws something in the back and accidentally hits the gun just so.
     
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    Are you LE or military? Why does your AR NEED to be with you EVERY day?

    Guess I'm not seeing the common sense here....
     
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    What does that have to do with anything? Do you NEED anything beyond 1 gun for protection?

    Dunno the best solution for securing a longgun in an SUV, especially readily accessible. I'm trying to figure out something similar for my extended cab truck...
     
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    I guess this:
    was why I asked the question........sounds more like a video-game commando, troll or anti asking a question like this
     
  7. distra

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    In several states a loaded long gun is illegal to transport. The OP did not mention whether or not his AR is loaded all the time. Some states require your long gun to be "cased" when transported. Since the OP does have a state of residence listed, the LEO or military question is valid. As for the OP's request, Cabelas sells several different styles of rifle racks for SUVs and trucks. I would urge you to check local laws before transporting in one.
     
  8. Bovice

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    my personal opinion-AR should go in the back. Get a rack of some kind and put it on the floor of your cargo area. It's probably not what you were wanting to hear, but think about it this way. If you have to go for your weapon quickly from inside your vehicle, the AR-15 is a rifle and is going to be tricky to get it into a position that you can fire from. If you really think there's a good possibility you'd get into a serious gunfight, carry a pistol up front. This pistol can be put anywhere up front that you'd like it to be, and it can be pointed and fired quickly. If all hell is really breaking loose, you'll have to get away from the vehicle, since it's just going to draw fire, and it offers you very little protection. Even a .22 can pierce autobodies. You can then position your car so that the passenger side is closest to the threat. Exit the vehicle, and use the rear wheel for cover. when you find a safe enough opportunity, peek around the tail end, shoot at any BGs you see, and grab for your rifle.

    It's not very realistic to try to drive and shoot an AR-15 at the same time. It's meant to be a 2 handed weapon. A pistol is easily operated single handedly, leaving you with one hand to steer. Sure, you can prop the rifle up on the sill and let loose... but not with any semblance of accuracy. That's a dangerous thing to do here in the United States. You might hit innocent people.

    Another thing, unrelated to the practical use of the AR-15 in your vehicle is securing the rifle. If you've got that thing propped up on the passenger seat, everybody is going to see it. Drive past the wrong spectator and they'll follow you to wherever you're going, and try to break in to steal the gun. Just because you may have a right to do something doesn't mean it's smart.

    Keep it hidden and readily accessible-that's the best thing I can come up with.
     
  9. Hold My Own

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    Quick Google search and I came up with this.

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    I'm sure something like this could be constructed without the "separator" between the front and back seats.

    If you need it hidden, then this might not be the best idea.
     
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    :eek:
     
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    geez... this is a pro-gun site? i have over 4,000 posts over the span of 7 years and i am just now being found out for an anti-gun troll?

    ok... since i need to justify my second amendment rights on a pro-gun site, i guess i will. i live in a rural state w/ very tolerable gun laws. there are no restrictions on me carrying a long gun, at all. if i have a couple of minutes after work to sneak in a quick coyote hunt, range trip, or happen upon a coyote, fox, skunk, badger, road-damaged deer, stray pop can, or just feel like shooting, while i am traveling across my rural state on gravel roads, minimum maintenance roads, across my corn fields, viewing the alfalfa fields, or feel a need to arm myself for self defense, i want to do it w/o hassles... if that is ok w/ you, distra/one ounce loaded?

    the gun doesn't have to be super-secret hidden, but wouldn't hurt my feelings if it was a little harder to see from the outside. however, i am not real concerned about someone breaking into my vehicle to steal the gun. access is more important to me than security.

    thanks, fellas.
     
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    they sell slide out case like lock boxes sized for the way back of standard model SUVs (Yukon, Expedition, etc...).

    Truck Vault is one brand.... http://www.truckvault.com/Default.aspx

    We've built custom organizers for a near by P.D. to use in them and they are quite nice.

    They keep their AR, Shotty, and ammo. all neatly stowed within.

    pop the tail gait, punch the keys on the cypher lock and the case opens up like a kitchen drawer with all the goodies easilly accessed.

    the nice part about this config. is that you can pile all your other cargo on the smooth top surface. So you loose about 10" on the floor and that's it.

    as you might expect... they're not cheap.... several hundred dollars... and that NOT including the custom partition set up.

    We were supposed to do a custom set up for their accident reconstruction kit, with some very expensive surveying instruments, but weren't really making any money on this onesy twosy love volume business, so we stopped pursuing it.
     
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    So you mostly don't want to use it for self defense, is that right? Would it be reasonable to keep it in the back of the SUV, and keep a handgun up front for SD? Or is that not a good enough option for you? One of the above posters said, and they are right, that you really can't bring that kind of weapon to bear within a car, so I would assume that you are ok with having to get out to get it?
     
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    Your posts are now in context. You do not have to justify your 2nd amendment rights at all, but just because it is a right does not mean everything you do with it will be legal. We were merely trying to keep our advice legal and in context. You can't run around every state, even in rural areas, with an AR sitting in the passenger seat without getting some unwanted LE attention. I'm sure even in your "gun friendly state" the wrong person seeing an AR in the passenger seat could cause you have a not so pleasant afternoon.

    Now on a more practical note, a couple guys at our club built their own slide out drawers for their SUVs. They work really well, but not quick access. I think I would use these instead http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp?id=0045916523045a&navCount=1&podId=0045916&parentId=cat20121&masterpathid=&navAction=jump&cmCat=MainCatcat602007-cat20121&catalogCode=QZ&rid=&parentType=index&indexId=cat20121&hasJS=true
     
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    Get out your Cabela's catalog, there are several different items there that might fit your needs.
     
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    right, primary use is not self defense.
    6-position stock, 16" barrel - it is surprisingly maneuverable inside the vehicle, but admittedly not the most graceful. however, given that it is not my primary sd weapon, if it takes a second or two to deploy, that is fine. however, running to the back of the truck to pop the gate, and then deploy the rifle would likely mean a lost opportunity.

    while the truckvault options are really cool, i think they are for more 'civilized' places where discretion and security are the priority. again, not concerned much about discretion - don't really care who might see it.

    don't want or need to store a seperate handgun.
     
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    If you see no reason to carry an AR in your vehicle, then feel free not to.

    But there's fundamentally no reason to question the man, let alone insult him about what he does or does not choose to do with his own private property.
     
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    +1 Justin. Maybe the guy really likes his AR. Why hassle him about it? I thought you high-roaders were above that.

    Do what my cousin did.. He kept a shotgun tucked between his center console and passenger seat. Got a good bit of surface rust after a few years, but if you modified an old gun case to sit there to keep the gunk from under your seat off of it, you might be in good shape. ;)
     
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    while that may be true some day, it has not been true for as long as i've had rifles in my vehicles in more or less plain sight - some even sitting in gun racks in the rear window. i was questioned once about the practice by leo about 12-13 years ago (my... i didn't realize it had been that long...), but didn't turn into much more than a couple questions and a parting of ways.
     
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    This is probably the best bet right here, doesn't lock, but it seems like it's really access and it's pretty cheap compared to other options.
     
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    I have one of the double roof racks in my 1 ton but the newer 1/2 tons don't have much meat to get a screw to bite.
    I have thought about removing the center seat from my 08 ford crew cab and welding up a console with a bottom section that would hold shorter long guns and use gas struts to raise and hold it open when I tripped the latch.
    Nice to see another who likes to bail out quick to smack a dog once and a while, we need to get some of these city boys out and show em some fun.
    Good shooting and may we always be able to haul em like we want to.
     
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    He stated this already. He uses it frequently to hunt varmints and doesn't seem to expect to use it in self defense since it was listed last. Since you A) Didn't read his second post or B) Don't hunt, attempting to get out of a vehicle, open up a trunk, pull the rifle out of a case/holding system, load it and then look to aim... well the animal is gone.

    Much easier to stop, pull, chamber, shoot.
     
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    Thats the kind of thing somebody who has never done it would say, depending on how it is stored you would be surprised how fast one can be chambered and on target. In some of the less restrictive states especially if on private property and shooting at non game species letting fly from the front seat is perfectly acceptable.
    At best if you can get the truck shut down and make it to the fence line your good to go.
     
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