Self Defense for kids?

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I think at that age unless your going to do it with them thier attention span is going to be lacking. You would be better off practicing simple moves one at a time with them occasionaly instead of several hour classes imho.

Teaching kids self defense in terms of fighting is the wrong answer and dangerous. A kid cannot realistically fight an adult. They need to learn awareness, avoidance, how to run to get help, the difference between good people and bad people (run from bad man to lady with kids...). How to slip out of a grab, maybe basic strike and run stuff.

I don't agree that they should not begin learning the skills simply because they cannot use them well on those that would pose them the biggest threat.
However I do agree to the extent that it is dangerous to build thier confidence to such a level that they are less inclined to be aware and cautious because they are overly confident in thier abilities.

Being aware of adults, keeping distance from strangers, and yes recognizing a mother with children is likely a safer stranger than a guy are valuable. However the flip side is training people in thier developmental stages to rely on others for thier protection. Isn't that the antis perspective? Why be capable of doing what you cannot do as well as the police (as if they will always be present and your safety will always be thier priority) or someone else governmentaly sanctioned? Instilling that thier safety is thier responsibility is a valuable lesson. But in a child that includes escape, ways to hit and run, and most importantly ways to always stay 10(20?)+ feet away from any adult and be aware when someone is getting close to those boundries.

Martial arts at that age focus more on form than on doing practical damage to an attacker. So as it would be nothing but a socializing event there is probably better ones for them. I think part of kids problems today is they don't have the ability to become thier own person and find who they are because everything is so structured and formal. Whether it is school, after school programs, homework, video games etc..It is all clear cut with no imagination needed as everything is provided. I think activities where every action is not governed by a rule clearly written down help a child to gain some practice in using the morals and values you instill and teach them some decision making and responsibility. Getting some of that practice in before they also have hormones to contend with as teenagers is ideal. Of course the flip side is if you don't follow the mold used to form most of the sheeple your child will integrate with them at a slower rate as they won't be as similar.
No perfect solution, that I guess is why parenting is difficult, there is no rulebook that is best all of the time.
 
Kids who are taught to scream for help and run away

will have certain advantages in this day and age. For example, if a kidnapping is about to happen in my vincinity and I am able to hear the kid screaming, I might have enough time to draw a nice steady bead on the head of his/her assailant.

But, I have to say, martial arts practice won't hurt a bit. Not only would it help them in certain situations, it would also help build their self esteem, confidence, and knowledge useful in later life in the career world.
Around 6 or 5 is a good place to start. Mild at first, let them get more absorbed into it when they are older and still show interest.
 
The martial arts school I attended last year had a "little dragons" program that taught the basics of a number of styles and provided the young kids with some decent exercise. Check around to see if anything like that is offered near you. Don't expect your 5 year old to learn to fend off determined kidnappers, but he might have fun and develop an interest in martial arts that could last a lifetime.
 
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Starting early

I got a 3yr old girl at about 6 months ago she started in with a curiousness of what I was doing when i cleaned my rifle. So I bought here a toy gun :confused: (I know what you are thinking):confused: She thinks the toy is just as real as mine I hang it in the rack with mine and she does not play with it as a toy, Only under my supervision. We go over proper stances were to point the gun how to pull the trigger all the gun safety. she can even tell you the componets of the rifle I.E. barrell, muzzle, trigger, stock. She still has hard time with looking through the sights and cheek placement but she is only 3. It has become a great way to spend time together.
 
hmm,
heres a question for you....
does your son soak up all knowledge given to him?....
well, mine does, and like MOST children, the earlier you get them involved in anything the better they generally "soak it in"....
tiger woods is a good example.... He started playing when he was barely old enough to swing a club? now look at him??
my son just turned 6 and I will be taking him to Aikido and practicing with him next week!
 
I started at 5 years old with my dad. I remember it was a lot of fun, and I think that is one of the reasons I took everything about it so seriously. I wouldn't see any problem with starting a kid out in martial arts that young, as it'll be a while before they learn how to seriously hurt someone anyways. It's not like they teach you the 5-point-palm exploding heart technique the day you walk in the door. :D

All jokes aside, I think that's a good age. I agree that children shouldn't be taught that because they know X or Y, that means they can defend themselves against an adult... they simply can't. While they're young, you still have to teach them other means of avoiding bad situations. But once that 5 year old turns into a 13 or 14 year old, he/she's got 8-9 years of MA experience, and you'd be hard pressed to find a kidnapper who could get the better of him/her. Just my $0.02
 
May I suggest you start with a good Aikido dojo. It'll teach basic rolls and escapes, which are important for arm grabs at such a young age. Good Aikido is very defensive, and focuses on situational awareness more than a set of moves.

At 6 enroll him into a local Cub Scout unit. Character education + confidence building.

By 12 or 13 find a Brazilian Ju-Jitsu dojo. He'll have enough training in Aikido as a calming factor not to go berzerk with BJJ.

Be sure to shop around, whether it be dojos or Cub Scout units. Find one that you AND your boy both like.
 
My son is almost 7 and will be taking his yellow belt test in two weeks. He's doing OK - their attention span is short at that age, and it is sometimes a little frustrating to keep him practicing.
 
interesting question....

opponents resist 100% (important reality check)

I think this is significant.

I was a hard core into martial arts when I was in college. We did a lot of point fighting and I think that this can install a false sense of confidence.

I know this doesn't have much to do with starting out a little tyke.

I think I'd go with some kind of sport that gives him good strenuous exercise and helps him to grow physically strong and builds coordination.

That's a good foundation to build on.
 
DEADLY FORCE: Deadly force is that force that a person knows will cause death or serious bodily harm and should be used as a last resort when all lesser means have failed.

WHEN DEADLY FORCE SHOULD BE USED: In defense of yourself or others when it is apparent that death or serious bodily harm (i.e. rape, loss of limb, eyesight, etc.) will result to the yourself or the other person. (A slap to the face or a busted lip does not justify deadly force)
 
I think that you should ask him if he wants to do it, don't ever force him into it.

I started doing a bit of some martial arts to stop a few druggie guys at school from pushing me and my friends around, this proved to be an incredible incentive to train. A friend of mine and I would (full contact) train and spar for hours at a time, it taught me an immense amount of things, from how to stay balanced, to strengthening my body; but most importantly of all it built my confidence like nothing else in my life ever did. I never did fight those guys, but every day I seem to find those skills I have learned helping me out, and every day I can almost thank those guys for pushing me to learn and train, it strengthened my self and my friends.
 
You can begin teaching self defense principles to people at any age, such as staying away from strangers, being aware of your environment, etc.

I'd wait until 9 at least for martial arts, there are many programs targeted towards kids but there are problems.

It requires attention to detail, coordination, attention span and motivation. Sure you can put your kid in tiny tigers, spend $80 a month for a year but the benefit outside of socialization is pretty small.

#1 they are too small to effectively combat an adult sized attacker, even women with martial arts training are often times no match for an untrained male larger than them. Kids martial arts programs are typically designed to encourage them to improve with lots of praise, giving them a false sense of ability and skill. Kid's already often have an unrealistic belief that they can beat up someone that attacks them.

#2 They are likely to learn it wrong, throwing sloppy kicks, punches and other moves and spend years learning how to do it right later on or gain a false confidence in abilities they simply don't have. Some of it isn't their fault, their bodies and brains are growing and it takes time to develop coordination.

We don't teach kids to drive a SUV at 7 for the same reason, they aren't ready for it. In my opinion it is better to teach them things they can do effectively like to recognize and avoid bad situations, and how to react when one occurs, getting away, getting help, screaming, biting, scratching, etc. Teach them a few moves and sensitive areas to go for is good as well.
 
loadsa really good posts here folks....

my little girl ( aged 1 year ) will be off to judo to first learn some rough an' tumble, then a bitta' crash bang wallop at boxing before she finally puts it all together in mma/shoot fighting when i think she is capable. there will be no age limit or time zone, i'll be close to my little angel and will know when to guide her. she will not be made to go, but if she doesn't want to she will have to sit still in a corner facing the walls for the duration of the class. look at this in the same way as swimming, fun to learn, and just in case they fall in...... the self confidence, respect and exercise make this a winner on their own. better to have this knowledge and not need it, than need it and not have it. it plants a great seed.
 
My son started at 5, in Karate - loves it!

My 11 year old daughter; I waited for her to express an interest, and she's failed to do that with pretty much anything. I say put 'em in it and see if it works, rather than wait to see if it looks like it will work before trying.
 
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