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'Shaq' part of botched porn raid


By TRAVIS REED
The Associated Press
October 25, 2006



ORLANDO, Fla. - Shaquille O’Neal was present during a botched child pornography raid last month while working in Virginia as a reserve sheriff’s deputy.

The Miami Heat center, who pursues his interest in law enforcement during the offseason, denied Tuesday taking part in serving the search warrant at the wrong house Sept. 23. However, Bedford County Sheriff’s Lt. Michael Harmony confirmed to The Associated Press that O’Neal was there.

O’Neal, in Orlando to play a preseason game Tuesday, was asked about the raid and several times somewhat playfully responded, “It wasn’t me.”

The 13-time All-Star has expressed an interest in becoming a Bedford deputy or sheriff somewhere else after his NBA career ends. He also works as a firearms-certified reserve police officer in Miami Beach.

“Of course, being sheriff is a seasoned political position, so we’re not going to be out there knocking down the wrong doors,” he said. “We just have to do the right thing.”

Bedford County Sheriff’s Lt. Mike Harmony told Newschannel 10’s John Carlin that Shaq played an active role in the raid. Harmony says Shaq was one of ten law enforcement officers executing a search warrant, and that he participated in searching the home.

Harmony also adds Shaq was carrying a gun and wearing a bulletproof vest, just like all of the officers.

A.J. Nuckols, who said his family has filed formal complaints, wrote in a letter published in the Chatham Star-Tribune that the raid at his Gretna, home “scared beyond description” him and his family.

He described being “held at gunpoint, taunted and led into the house,” and said the home was ransacked by a “paramilitary search-and-seizure team” that took computers, cameras, DVDs and VHS tapes.

“Men ran at me, dropped into shooting position, double-handed semiautomatic pistols pointed at me, and made me put my hands against my truck,” Nuckols wrote.

Nuckols also said in a telephone interview that he heard O’Neal was at his home, but didn’t specifically see the 7-foot-1, 325-pound All-Star in all the commotion.

It wasn’t until later authorities realized they had been given the wrong IP address, which Internet service providers can use to identify users, leading them to the wrong physical address, Harmony said. It was the Internet company’s mistake, he said.

Harmony said the sheriff’s office apologized, but Nuckols mischaracterized the incident. Harmony said officers were wearing bulletproof vests and may have been in dark or camouflaged clothing, but were not carrying assault rifles or wearing helmets.

“The sheriff’s department does regret that Mr. Nuckols and his family had to go through this, however we were operating under the scope of what we were supposed to do,” he said.

He said officers had to secure the house to ensure their own safety. Harmony also said the sheriff’s office conducted a successful search on the correct home Friday, finding child pornography and securing a statement from a man admitting he knowingly distributed it.

Nuckols said he has filed formal complaints with the Bedford and Pittsylvania sheriff’s offices, who conducted the raid with members of child sex-crime unit Operation Blue Ridge Thunder.

The Bedford Sheriff’s Office enlisted O’Neal to be the spokesman and public face of its anti-child pornography and child predator campaign, making him a deputy last year.

Harmony said O’Neal had been on search warrant executions before.

So the sheriffs dont regret terrorizing some family? I understand its the ISPs fault but you can at least say I am sorry.

And the followup...

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The wrong house


Danville Register and Bee
October 27, 2006


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The Sept. 23 raid on the Nuckols’ family home near Gretna has become a national story because Shaquille O’Neal was on the scene.

Shaq is not only an NBA superstar, he’s also a law enforcement supporter and a reserve deputy. He joined with deputies from Pittsylvania and Bedford counties at the Nuckols’ house because they were all on the trail of one of the worst kinds of computer criminals - people who view and trade in child pornography.

But the raid was conducted at the wrong house.

The Bedford County Sheriff’s Office, in a timeline of events released Wednesday, placed blame for the mistake on Fairpoint Communications Inc. of Dodge City, Kans. Authorities claim the company gave Bedford officials the wrong Internet address, which led deputies to the wrong physical address.

“The Pittsylvania County Sheriff’s Department, Bedford County Sheriff’s Department and Blue Ridge Thunder invaded our peaceful lives with military force based on one piece of wrong digital information,” A.J. Nuckols wrote in a letter to the editor published in the Danville Register & Bee (“Why was our home raided?” Oct. 25, page A6). “… No innocent United States citizen should be subjected to this based on so little evidence. …”

It’s awful Nuckols’ innocent family was put through a police raid because of someone else’s error. Either the Internet service provider or the authorities should have done a better job of making sure they had the right address before the raid took place.

In the days before computers entered our homes, though, police officers were sometimes sent to the wrong place because of bad information they received from “confidential informants” or other sources. Raiding the wrong house happens, it just doesn’t happen all that often.

It’s worth pointing out that armed with a different physical address from Fairpoint Communications, investigators raided a second Pittsylvania County home and found child pornography on a computer along with other evidence.

That’s why the real issue here is the importance of aggressively tracking down adults who use the Internet to try to arrange sexual liaisons with minors or to buy, sell and distribute child pornography. We need to continue to fight Internet crime and the criminals who would use the World Wide Web for their own perverse and illegal purposes.

What happened to the Nuckols family was wrong, but the thousands - if not millions - of children victimized by Internet criminals cry out for the justice that only a continuing law enforcement effort can deliver.
 
In the technological age, sometimes things go wrong. I'm glad no one got hurt.


As far as it involving Shaq, apparently he's a certified and trained reserve LEO. As long as he has the training and certification, he's just another one of the guys putting their lives on the line to keep us safe. You here so much about celebrities like rappers waving guns around at clubs or movie stars owning guns themselves but not wanting regular people to. It's nice to see a celebrities who cares enough to not just show up at some "March for _____ Awareness rally" or do some TV spots, but he actually goes out and joins the normal guys in doing the real job. And not just as some publicity thing. This is the first I have heard about him being a reserve LEO, but apparently he has been a reserve deputy for some time. Good for him. I'd like to see some more celebs, rappers in particular, go and join the Police, not rap about killing them.
 
I understand aggresively enforcing child pornagraphy laws. I understand using IP addresses and that there can be a mistake with perhaps no good way to double check.

What I don't understand is serving a warrant "high risk" style for this offense. Are collectors/distributers of child porn violent offenders? How about 2 detectives and some back up uniforms doing the old knock, show warrant and then search? Of course the victim is the one saying they pointed guns at him etc...on the other hand, the Sheriffs office didn't deny it (the pointing guns at him part, they said no rifles/helmets), they said they had to secure the house.
 
Are collectors/distributers of child porn violent offenders? How about 2 detectives and some back up uniforms doing the old knock, show warrant and then search?
Yes, some of them are violent offenders. Some of them become extremely violent when LE comes to serve warrants.

One Broward County Deputy Killed; One Injured ( http://www.nbc6.net/news/3666416/detail.html )

Fatal Shots Puncture Bulletproof Vest

POSTED: 12:31 pm EDT August 19, 2004
UPDATED: 1:49 am EDT August 20, 2004

FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. -- A sheriff's deputy was shot to death and another wounded Thursday as they served a search warrant seeking child pornography, officials said.

Detective Todd Fatta, 33, was killed when shots hit him in the chest, penetrating his bulletproof vest, Broward County Sheriff Ken Jenne said, holding back tears. Fatta's partner was taken to a hospital.

The occupant of the house, Kenneth Wilk, was taken into custody. Other officers returned fire at Wilk, but he was not injured, Jenne said.

Wilk was held on charges of conspiracy to possess child pornography and conspiracy to obstruct justice; charges in Fatta's death were not immediately filed. He was to appear Friday in Miami federal court.

Wilk, 42, was arrested last year when he allegedly threatened officers who served a child porn warrant at the home. And Wilk's roommate, Kelly Ray Jones, was arrested last month on charges of using the Internet to send illicit images of children to an undercover detective -- a violation of his federal probation. Jones, who already was a registered sex offender, remains jailed.

Broward County sheriff's officials said the undercover detective who received the photos on the computer was the same investigator who arrested Jones in March 2001 on six counts of child pornography.

"Mr. Wilk was bragging we had not found all of the child pornography" after Jones' most recent arrest, Jenne said.

Fatta and Sgt. Angelo Cedeno, both part of a multi-agency anti-porn task force, returned Thursday to find the additional material, Jenne said. Fatta had been with the sheriff's office for nine years, and Cedeno for 15.

Wilk, the only person in the house Thursday, refused to come outside to receive the warrant, and fired at the deputies after they entered the house, Jenne said. He said Wilk had several high-caliber weapons around the house.

Cedeno, 36, was wounded in the hand and shoulder and underwent surgery at North Broward Medical Center. He was in stable condition, the sheriff's department said.

Phil Roccapiore, 49, said he heard shouting and "a barrage of shots" -- and saw an officer with his gun drawn on the side of Wilk's house. A plainclothes officer crouched behind a car yelled for him to go back inside, Roccapiore said.

Roccapiore, who has a 16-year-old son and 21/2-year-old nephew, pointed to a 2001 newspaper article on Jones' 2001 arrest. "I'm still in shock that an officer had to die over this," he said.
 
I agree strambo. I also don't like the fact that it's getting harder to tell the difference between local police and our military . I have several members of my family that are retired from the local force and they all cannot understand why these newer guys need a SWAT team to serve a warrent for non violent offenses. To me , SWAT and the like should be on call , not first action . Unless they KNOW that there are weapons and a high probability of thier use .
 
Good article DMF, touche. Is that typical though, or just a rare occurance that could be found for anything? I noticed he previously threatened officers...a SWAT style raid would be waranted for him given his prior history.

A SWAT style raid on someone with no violent (or any) criminal record at all suspected of possession of child porn, seems a bit much was my point. They certainly checked out the (now proven wrong) suspect/homeowner for priors to know his history before the raid.
 
I was a probation officer for 16 years and arrested perhaps hundreds of people. I did it in a state where probation officers are not permitted to carry firearms. I didn't need a black ninja suit or an AR fitted with ten thousand gew-gaws sticking out of it. I didn't need to yell and scream and get people all nervous and upset and possibly provoke a violent reaction. Unarmed, I took quite a few people's guns away. I have arrested outlaw bikers, druggies, perverts and insane lunatics with only a handful of times where I had to get tough.

I now have a job where I investigate child abuse and neglect. I regularly take people's children away. In spite of what is popularly believed, most of these parents love the kids, even though they may be screwed up and dysfunctional in a hundred different ways. I have not yet gotten in a physical altercation over taking a kid, but its been hairy a few times. Once again I find, the less intimidation and yelling, the smoother it goes.

I don't doubt that in exceptional circumstances you may need a SWAT team to arrest somebody. Certainly, for violent felons one needs to take precautions, but for people who commit non-violent crimes using a SWAT team is just plain nuts.

Its absolutely amazing how treating people like human beings works as a law enforcement method. My twin-brother who did two-decades with the NYPD took the same philosophy and had similar results. People who tend to self-righteous indignation or who have macho (or in the case of women, extreme feminist) problems should stay the heck away from law enforcement.
 
I would say that if prior investigation didn't turn up a suspects' criminal history some additional checking should be done. They could have gone back and ask the ISP to double-check and confirm the information they gave the investigators. Delaying the raid for 24 to 48 hours wouldn't have made any difference. The SWAT mentality needs to be kept on a tight leash. The Sheriff may think that a mistake of this kind is of little consequence, but if a wrong party had been killed or wounded he's think differently when the lawyers got done.
 
I have stared down the barrel of several guns. Each and every time I was doing nothing and no arest was made. On the times I have been arested, NO guns were used, or needed.
Yes, I was considered armed and dangerous(it said that on paper) it just was not true.

The first time I was a skinny 16yo kid, walking down the street to get a pizza.
 
So the sheriffs dont regret terrorizing some family? I understand its the ISPs fault but you can at least say I am sorry.

Harmony said the sheriff’s office apologized,
The sheriff’s department does regret that Mr. Nuckols and his family had to go through this

An apology and statement of regret for terrorizing the family, that should cover it
 
IMHO, the sherrif's officers should be helping clean up their house and fix all the stuff they tore up in searching their home. I assume they returned all their property. That wasn't discussed.
 
More....and some dog shooting by SWAT

More on this story and others at www.theagitator.com.

SWAT shot a family pet in Sugarland, Tx on a raid. Also set the house on fire. Luckily, none of the officers were hurt. They did find a roach and a joint in the kids room.
 
Dont they understand if they go to the wrong house and break into a dark room your gonna get shot?
 
Yes, some of them are violent offenders. Some of them become extremely violent when LE comes to serve warrants.
Yabbut, cops have been shot while pulling people over for speeding. Do we need a paramilitary assault team for traffic violators?

I'm pretty firmly pro-cop, but I do get a little upset with the "us vs. them" attitudes and the "combat" mindset that seems to be inculcated into police the last few decades.
 
I'm pretty firmly pro-cop, but I do get a little upset with the "us vs. them" attitudes and the "combat" mindset that seems to be inculcated into police the last few decades.


You're right. It sucks that criminals have made that a requirement.
 
You're right. It sucks that criminals have made that a requirement.
I have one good friend that works as an officer and has for more than a decade. He swears up and down that the bad guys really have gotten badder and that military tactics are now neccessary because of it. I suppose I should take his word for it.

Seems to me, though, that there was a time in this country when organized criminals with machine guns ruled the streets and officers responded in uniform blues and with .38 caliber revolvers.

So I'm not completely sure that my friend's opinions are not swayed by his proximity to the debate.
 
What happened to the Nuckols family was wrong, but the thousands - if not millions - of children victimized by Internet criminals cry out for the justice that only a continuing law enforcement effort can deliver.

So it doesn't really matter, because "it's for the kids."


zastros
 
You're right. It sucks that criminals have made that (i.e. "us vs. them" attitudes and the "combat" mindset) a requirement.

Sorry, but criminals have not made that a requirement. As other posters here and history have shown, police do not need a combat mindset. As for the "us vs. them" attitude, what happened to people being presumed innocent until proven guilty? If people are presumed innocent, why do LEOs need a "police vs. non-police" attitude?

I think that most cops treat people respectfully and do the best they can, however, the few with the "us vs. them" attitude give cops a bad name.
 
Kicking in doors to arrest internet ciminals is absurd. It esclates the danger to the officers and the public.
 
They Made The Mistake...They Fix It...

I understand that happens. They're doing a difficult job in order to protect us and our families.

But here's the equilizer...any damage...ANY whatsoever, broken doors, smashed computers, tvs, broken walls etc...the police departments MUST be absolutely 100% liable for these.

No questions asked.

You go smashing in the wrong door and causing $30,000 in damage - better pony up a check and quick.

Personally - I think there should be penalties imposed on the police dept. if they get it wrong. WHY? Because it will force them to work harder to get it right.

We're all aware that the militarization of our police departments has gone WAY overboard. Well, if they want to play with all those cool military toys...they've got to own up to their mistakes.

Robert
 
Personaly I'm tired of the taxpayers paying for these clown's mistakes. It was their job, not the ISP's to make sure they had the right address. Maybe if their own pocket was at stake instead of the taxpayers they would be a bit more careful.
 
Ninja law.

The military style approach to law enforcement was discused with me by my twentynine year old son who is a graduate of Illinois University at Normal with a bachelor degree in criminal justice plus four years in the military. He decided not to be a police officer after experiencing first hand some of this military style approach to law enforcement and the wrong address syndrom that is use as reasoning to terrorize people.Fortunately for all concerned he was recognized by one of the entry team members and this led to the discovery that they were at the wrong address, a 107 street address was transposed as a 701. The officers involved appologized and helped to clean up the slight mess they made, the upper level officers did not seem the least bit concerned about the possibility that someone could have been injured or killed, after all they were just doing there job....After all they no longer have to act directly with the people and depend on them for assistance when things go wrong...They are only concerned with advancement(not all) and are politically motivated to please there totalitarian masters.
 
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