Sheriff called me about my C&R

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I just got off the phone with my local Sheriff.

She phoned me to discuss my C&R application. It turns out that she has never seen one before and didn't know what to do with it. :what: :D

I proceeded to explain the process, why I sent it to her, and the differences between an 01 FFL and 03 FFL. The end of the conversation she says, "Well, I don't have any issue with it but you're the first person in this area that has ever sent one of these to me."

Whoa....

Cool, thanks!

:evil: Soon, I will cruffle....

Ed
 
Are MG's legal there? I'm wondering what their reaction will be to signing off on that? :) Here it's so routine thay don't bat an eye.

Edit: Ah, California. Forget it. :p
 
I thought a C&R was useless in CA? Or was it somewhere else that still required a FFL transfer? I know there was somewhere like that dangit!
 
Hate limitations, should be able to own anything that goes bang, as long as you don't use it to commit a crime. Ooo :banghead: pps, did I say that?
 
"Well, I don't have any issue with it but you're the first person in this area that has ever sent one of these to me."
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Man that is just sad :( .

(unless she was just elected in Nov. & sworn in a couple of days ago)

It sounds like you've got some work ahead of you Ed to spread the good word ;) . Better get to it before your bank account vanishes :D .
 
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joshuap
 
I should have mentioned that I am in CA. I've been here for 5 years, and she's been the sheriff for at least that long.

I've talked to people before about the C&R and other enthusiasts know about it, but nobody has one. Supposedly a few guys in the county over have 'em, but it's not something that gets talked about often.

I'm sure C&R numbers will go up once I start showing up with tons and tons of surplus rifles.

Ed
 
At first, I also thought a C&R FFL was totally useless in California. Finally, enough information seeped through my thick skull, and then I realized that most C&R rifles over 50 years old were transferable without the usual ordeal.

~G. Fink
 
A C&R in CA works the same as elsewhere for long guns but handguns (even C&R) must still be transferred through a 001 FFL.
 
Local Restrictions?

I've been looking at getting my C&R, and I downloaded the form. I know CA has some restrictions, but what about local restrictions? Yolo Co. for example has really severe restrictions on ammo v(but whaddya expect from Davis?). Are there any C&Rs here in Sacramento County? Oh, what sort of security will the state require-locks for everything, or a safe?
 
California C&R Rules

I've been looking at getting my C&R, and I downloaded the form. I know CA has some restrictions, but what about local restrictions? Yolo Co. for example has really severe restrictions on ammo v(but whaddya expect from Davis?). Are there any C&Rs here in Sacramento County? Oh, what sort of security will the state require-locks for everything, or a safe?
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Here are the basic rules for C&R FFL holders in California:

There is a lot of confusion around concerning the California regulations on C&R Firearms. The first thing to remember is that California, with few exceptions, requires all firearms transfers within the state to be processed through a dealer. There is no exception for C&R FFL holders. There is however, an exception to the dealer transfer requirement for C&R rifles and shotguns that are over 50 years old. [PC 12078(t)(2)] This exception is available to anyone legally able to possess firearms. California doesn’t care if you are licensed or not, that’s a Federal matter. The 50 year rifle and shotgun exception is the reason that C&R FFL holder in California can receive these types of firearms directly from an out of state supplier.

The California definition for a C&R firearm is exactly the same as that used by BATF in 27CFR. California references both Title 18 and 27 CFR for the definition. If the Feds say a firearm is C&R, so does the California DOJ.

There are a couple of exceptions to the firearms laws that are available to C&R FFL holders. If the licensee also holds a Certificate of Eligibility (COE) from the California DOJ, they are exempt from the 10-day waiting period when buying C&R firearms from a dealer. [PC 12078(t)(1)] The same C&R FFL holder with a COE is also exempt from the one handgun a month law for both C&R and modern handguns. [PC 12072(a)(9)(B)] You also would not need a handgun safety certificate when purchasing C&R handguns. [PC 12807(a)(6)]


Where the C&R FFL comes in handy is when the holder is out of the state. They may purchase any C&R firearm and bring it back to California. The exceptions of course include those “evil†“assault weapons†and magazines with a capacity greater than 10 rounds cannot be brought back. Any C&R handguns purchased must be registered with the California DOJ within 5 days and are reported on Form BCIA 4100A along with a $19.00 payment for each handgun. [PC 12072(f)(3)]
 
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