Shootings that armed citizens HAVE stopped

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Reference: Links where CHLs have stopped past mass shootings

I just thought it might be handy to create a thread where we can posts links to news stories of armed citizens intervening to stop mass shootings (or perhaps the Killeen case where prohibition by law prevented an intervention)

1. Luby's Killeen - Suzanna Gratia Hupp had a handgun; but had left it in the glovebox of her car in order to obey state laws prohibiting the carry of concealed weapons at the time. Both her parents were killed and this tragedy led to a change in the law.

2. Pearl, MI - High school principal stops school shooting with a .45

Anybody else have more?
 
St James Massacre - Kenilworth, Cape Town, South Africa

During the Sunday evening service on 25 July 1993, a group of APLA cadres attacked the St James Church in Kenilworth. Using grenades and AK-47s, they killed 11 members of the congregation and wounded 58. A single churchgoer, Charl van Wyk, managed to return fire, wounding one of the attackers, and the attackers fled.
 
Mark Otis?

Was that the name of the guy in Texas 2-3 years back who heard the shooting at the courthouse across the street, ran out of his apartment and engaged the shooter, died in the process, but was able to drive off the shooter?

Michael
 
A few weeks after the Luby's shooting, there was a similar incident at a Shoney's, in Alabama, I think.

One patron had a gun, and as the diners were being led to the walk-in cooler, he shot one of the two gunmen. The other ran away.

No masacre.
 
Guntalk: A few weeks after the Luby's shooting, there was a similar incident at a Shoney's, in Alabama, I think.
That happened in Anniston, AL.

http://www.albertlowe.com/wordpress/

What Columbine SHOULD have been
October 24th, 2005
IMAGINE!
(What Columbine COULD have been!!)

By Ann Coulter
08/13/1999

Remember this name: Thomas Glenn Terry. It won’t be bandied
quite as much as “Mark O. Barton” over the next few weeks,
but it should be. Two armed men burst into Shoney’s restaurant
in Anniston, Alabama and herded the patrons and employees into
a walk-in refrigerator, at gun point. The robbers kept the
manager behind for his assistance as they looted the
restaurant. One patron, however, also remained behind.
Thomas Glenn Terry had opted against being locked in a
refrigerator, and hid from the attackers under a table.

As one of the armed robbers ransacked the cash register,
another patroled the restaurant. When he came across
Mr. Terry, he pulled his gun.

But unlike the recent victims in Atlanta, this victim
was armed. Using his own legally concealed handgun,
Terry shot and killed the robber. The other armed robber,
who had had his gun trained on the manager, then opened
fire on Terry. Terry shot back, mortally wounding the
second robber. The two dozen hostages were released
unharmed. Only the criminals — who had been armed
with stolen guns by the way — didn’t make it out alive.

You probably hadn’t heard of the Shoney’s restaurant
incident. In the media’s boundless capacity to stultify
the public with sensational news stories, they have made
places like Littleton, Colorado household names. But
“Anniston, Alabama” doesn’t ring a bell.

A massacre is a story. Thwarting a massacre isn’t.
once you know about Anniston, and similar averted tragedies,
something will start to leap out at you as you read news
accounts of gunmen shooting scores of innocents. Massacre
stories always include a terrifying account of how the killers
proceeded from victim to victim, pausing to reload, and
shooting again. Mass murder requires that the victims be
unarmed.

Thomas Glenn Terry, though heroic, is not altogether
unique. Two years ago in Pearl, Mississippi a deranged
student shot and killed two of his classmates. Fortunately,
Joel Myrick, the assistant principal had a gun in his car.
He prevented the shooting from becoming a Littleton level
massacre by holding the student at gunpoint until the police
arrived.

A year later, in Edinboro, Pennsylvania, a 14-year-old boy
opened fire at an eighth-grade graduation dance, killing a
teacher and wounding three others. A single murder did not
become a mass murder only because a near-by restaurant owner,
James Strand, happened to be armed. As the shooter stopped
to reload, Strand immobilized the shooter, holding him for
over ten minutes, until the police appeared. A lot of killing
can be accomplished in ten minutes when none of your victims
is armed.

How long did it take the police to arrive in Atlanta?
Barton walked into one office building in Atlanta shot four
people dead, then left the building, ambled across the street,
entered another building, and killed at least five more people.
As in Littleton there are film clips of policemen scaling the
building’s walls to rescue terrified and completely defenseless
people inside.

Most striking in the news reports of Barton’s shooting
spree was this: Fully three hours after the shooting, some
people were still hiding in the building. Hiding. Waiting
like pigs before the slaughter. Because none of them was
armed. None but the madman.

But for some reason, the government’s response is always to
disarm more citizens. Not to disarm itself, by the way, but
to disarm people other than the police who show up 15 minutes
after the shooting has begun. This isn’t a complaint about the
police, they simply can’t be everywhere at once. It’s a plea
for more citizen guards. There may be bad citizens, but, let
me remind you, there are also bad police. Why are they the
only ones don’t have to hide in their offices when madmen
with guns show up?

More guns will not create more Mark Bartons. Guns can do a
lot of things, like protect you from lunatics, but they don’t
make you criminally insane. Consider Mr. Barton. The initial
reports have been that he killed his children because his stock
porfolio had declined. Well, that’s a rational response. Whether
it was his stocks or his wife or the weather — he killed his
children.

This is a madman. In the absence of a gun, he could
have used an axe, a bomb, or a machette. One of the most
efficient murder sprees this century was accomplished not with
guns, but with machettes. Madmen in Rwanda murdered almost
one million people in under four months, with machettes.

If only Thomas Glenn Terry had been there.
 
Not CHL, but wasn't the 1966 UT shooter in the tower engaged by other students who grabbed deer rifles out of trucks/cars as well as police?
 
Don't forget the recent shootings at the mall in SLC. The individual in that incident was far more heavily armed than this one, yet was stopped mid-rampage by an off-duty police officer with a snubby revolver.
 
It's difficult for a law-abiding citizen to use a firearm for defense when these criminals keep attacking victims by bringing guns into a "Gun-Free Zone".
(Schools, shopping malls, workplaces)
 
Here's one from last week

From the New Hampshire Union Leader:

MANCHESTER – Bullets flew outside the Uptown Tavern early yesterday when a peeved patron began shooting at a doorman after being thrown out of the club. The shooter himself was shot twice by an armed customer who rushed to the bouncer's defense, a club owner and police said.

The shooter had missed doorman Chad Ryan after firing about four shots at him in the 1301 Elm St. club's parking lot when the alleged gunman was himself hit twice by the unidentified patron who returned fire about 12:45 a.m., said club co-owner Dave Somers.

An armed citizen does more in the span of ten seconds to get a violent criminal off the streets than all of Boston Mayor Tom Menino's gun buybacks, task forces, and bigoted gun licensing policies, combined.

I'm shocked.

The wounded suspect, identified by police as Eliezer Encarnacion, 26, and his companion -- both of whom were thrown out of the club moments earlier -- ran from the parking lot up Myrtle Street with an angry group of club patrons in pursuit.

Well, I'll be damned. Wearing running shoes might just be a good idea, after all.

Encarnacion was about six to eight feet from Ryan when he fired the first shot, hitting the door frame, Willard said. When the second shot rang out, a male customer inside the bar realized what was happening and intervened, he continued.

"He feels the bouncer's life is in danger and he produces his own firearm and proceeds to return fire," said [Det. Lt. Nick] Willard, who credited the patron with saving the doorman and possibly even Brown from being shot.

Or, he could have ducked behind a table and called 911, as called out in Chapter 1 of the "Self Defense for Liberals Handbook". Sure, innocent people would be killed before he hit the "9", but at least the coroner's office could get a headstart on sending a clean-up crew to the scene.

Police withheld the patron's name while they continue their investigation, which will include an inquiry into whether his use of deadly force was justified.

Club employees were not aware the customer -- described as a regular patron -- was carrying a concealed weapon, Somers said.

That's pretty much the whole point of it. Hence, the phrase "concealed weapon".

"I'm not okaying it. But if he didn't, probably my doorman would be dead," Somers said.

A small price to pay, in the eyes of the Ted Kennedy's of the world, to realize their dream of transforming the greatest nation on earth into a totalitarian police state, where only those in high positions of power will enjoy the right to have their lives defended by the use of firearms.
 
Mark Wilson
http://johnrlott.tripod.com/2005/02/concealed-handgum-permit-holders.html

A 52-year-old manufacturing plant employee, credited with saving another man's life by jumping into the middle of a fierce firefight on a Texas downtown square, was known for taking life "head-on." Friends weren't surprised to hear that Mark Wilson sacrificed his own life by confronting a gunman firing an AK-47 assault-style rifle Thursday in Tyler, Texas.

"He is the type of person who would grab his gun and go," said Lewis George of Dallas, Wilson's former brother-in-law and best friend for 30 years. "If it was me, I would have been running the other way.

"Mark, he took life head-on."
 
I just thought it might be handy to create a thread where we can posts links to news stories of armed citizens intervening to stop mass shootings (or perhaps the Killeen case where prohibition by law prevented an intervention)

The problem is a lot of things were stopped early on, before they ever became "mass shootings" so they don't garner much attention.
 
I just thought it might be handy to create a thread where we can posts links to news stories of armed citizens intervening to stop mass shootings (or perhaps the Killeen case where prohibition by law prevented an intervention)

The problem is a lot of things were stopped early on, before they ever became "mass shootings" so they don't garner much attention.

As mentioned in the Ann Coulter article above on the incident in Alabama:

A massacre is a story. Thwarting a massacre isn’t.
 
I have heard mention in several threads that there have been school shootings, and a recent mall shooting that were stopped my armed citizens or off duty police officers. Could we make a quick compilation of them? I think it's important to have information showing that it CAN be done, and has been done.
 
Joel Myrick, Pearl Mississippi.

Off duty Officer Hammond, Trolley Square, Salt Lake City

And there are a slew of shootings, where the badguy was shot in the first few minutes, that very may well have turned into high body count media freakfests, but since the badguy got shot before the body count grew, no media coverage.
 
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