short range defense carbine suggestions (long)

[Gordon]

If somebodie opened fire on me at my Ranchito, and it sounds about like yours in situation; I think it would be hard to prosecute your actions IF a body with their gun which had been discharged and forensic evidence of bullets hitting around your position were found. That said my walk around the ranch at night weapon is a Colt H-Bar with ANPVS-4 sight attached, it is kept out of safe at night. I OWN the night to 300yds which is almost to my gate. I also have an M-14 I keep with an ANPVS-2 on , just for old Vietnam nostalgia or wild pigs and big stuff that might need killin at night. I have a Russian SIBIR YUKON with a weaver mount that I can put on various things but my Rem. 1100 12ga 3 gun match shotgun usually wears it; a real good night optic for (comparitively) low $. Ya gotta have the edge at night ,ask our boys in Iraq!

 

[wun_8_seven]

kobun, thanks for the links. as for the spike strips ,that might work if all family members who may show up are aware of them. in this situation they had two choices fight or flight not sure i'd want to take away thier ablity to flee when its middle of the night, i'm alone and backup is at least 30 miles away and isaw at least three people. 187

 

[Kobun]

not sure i'd want to take away thier ablity to flee when its middle of the night

Then get a spike strip with hollow spikes...
Takes some time for the air to go out, and sure makes the Sherrifs role easier, finding a truck with four flat tires.

 

[JohnKSa]

PLEASE folks...

Do NOT rely on bullet drop to keep distant things safe from gunfire.

At the distances we are talking about here, even a ricochet could easily be lethal.

If safe and workable field of fire can't be found then a shotgun is the only solution.

 

[BevrFevr]

187 you did right!

How about natural barracades ie curves in the driveway with steep ditches on either side. I know that is easier said than done in that OK red clay.

Maybe hook up an audible alarm to motion sensors? Will make sure to wake you up and scare the stuff outta stangers. Also it won't hurt to hang up some B27 targets with the hell blasted out of em. Scatter some spent shotgun cases on the drive. Hang bones from rusty things. Just do things to try to give em the idea that one crazy bastard might just be there to plant them on the back 40.

Rural crime is a real problem cuz you are either gone or on your own and there are no witnesses.

Good Luck Hombre!
-bevr

 

[JohnKSa]

Also it won't hurt to hang up some B27 targets with the hell blasted out of em. Scatter some spent shotgun cases on the drive. Hang bones from rusty things. Just do things to try to give em the idea that one crazy bastard might just be there to plant them on the back 40.

Just make sure you can get it all cleaned up in the amount of time it takes the Sheriff to get out there after you have a shooting.

You wouldn't want him to get the wrong idea...

 

[280PLUS]

good links,,,

thanks! they show you a lot about elevation and trajectory

i'd like to think i would have waited till they cleared the house behind and then sent a little love their way just on principle.

you know, let them hear that bushy talk a little...

but i wasn't there,so,,,

you kept a good cool head, that's the most important thing...

if i could keep the same in such a situation i'd be happy with myself

m

 

[BevrFevr]

JohnsKS

In this situation I think the sheriff is the least of his concerns.

A little psychological deterence can go a long way to preventing a bad situation. These basic techiniques have been used for centuries.

In a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation I will always opt for the former. Better to be tried by twelve then carried by six if you know what I mean.

And speaking of deterence I'll also throw my vote in on the 12ga. slugs. I love shooting slugs. I personally have blown a five inch hole in the side of a truck. (gotta hit it at an angle) Everybody that sees the picture of the hole makes a "holly cr*p!" statement.

It makes it easier on the Sheriff in the end. "just find the truck with the giant holes and follow the trail of human hamburger"

-bevr