The Little Carbine that Could

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Sure am glad I'm in California and can't enjoy the HiPoint. Before I REALLY knew the atrocities of my state, I naively called my local gun shop after seeing HiPoints add in a gun mag for the carbine. "That's an assult weapon, you can't buy that!"

Thankfully my state is protecting me (from myself).

*No hijack intended* In defiance of those with power, I bought a Walther G22 in OD green and added a scope and laser. All the looks of an AW with the .22 attitude! :neener:
 
Blackbok:

No hickjack perceived. We wanted to know why people "do" and "do not" buy the Hi-Point. Can't go wrong whatever you answer. Your post is a perfect addition to the thread, and it is appreciated.

Have a great week,

Doc2005
 
Enjoying this thread, but have a question about the Hi-Point ...

First, three reasons I didn't buy one the last time I was at a store with several in stock:

a) It's ugly, in its stock stock. The ATI stock makes it decent-enough looking, though. But that also increases the price enough to come near ...

b) The other reason, besides the need to spend money on other things, naturally, is the SU2000. I like the compactness, I like that it takes Glock mags. I don't even have any Glocks, but those 33rd mags are one reason I felt some slight regret when buying my otherwise well-loved XD.

c) Despite all the good things people have had to say about it in this thread and elsewhere, Hi-Point has what I think everyone can agree is a mixed reputation. There are the arbitrary haters, the dyed-in-the-wool lovers, the cautious optimists, and the cynical doubters ... and it's hard to tell who has the best case ;) Like Agent Mulder, I want to believe ...

Now, the question: is the brass ejected from the Hi-Point suitable for reloading, or is it deformed in some way to make that a bad idea? One day (cross fingers) I want to get a reloading setup. I wouldn't do this (at current prices) *only* for 9mm, but if I got a .45ACP setup, it would seem reasonable to do it for both of those.

Cheers,

timothy
 
Now, the question: is the brass ejected from the Hi-Point suitable for reloading, or is it deformed in some way to make that a bad idea? One day (cross fingers) I want to get a reloading setup. I wouldn't do this (at current prices) *only* for 9mm, but if I got a .45ACP setup, it would seem reasonable to do it for both of those.
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Brass is ejected in good perfectally reloadable condition. I reloaded for mine all teh time. But towards the end after scrounging the range a couple times for 9mm casings I had so much 9mm brass that it wasn't worth my trouble to bother chasing down my own empties anymore.

a) It's ugly, in its stock stock. The ATI stock makes it decent-enough looking, though. But that also increases the price enough to come near ...
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LOL name one new production semiauto pistol caliber carbine that doesn't look like it fell out of the south end of a north bound mule.

Like I previously mentioned the inability of any practical means of putting optics on s Kel-Tec ruled that rifle out for me. Again in my book there's no point in a 9mm carbine if it's not wearing a red dot
 
One of my friends has one of the carbines with the red dot sight, and I rather like it. The only complaint I have is that the sight is mounted just a tiny smidgen too low for my taste. It's a nice little shooter, at our winter shoot he was putting rounds into a 12in circle at 350+yards very consistently, and probably would have done 8in on a day with less wind.
Everyone that I've talked with about the carbine has liked it. I can't believe the difference between the carbines and the Hi-Point pistols, it's like they aren't even made by the same company.
 
krochus wrote:
"LOL name one new production semiauto pistol caliber carbine that doesn't look like it fell out of the south end of a north bound mule."
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- The Sub2000 from Kel-Tec :)

- Also, the Beretta Storm.

- Colt AR-15 type rife in 9mm (though I thought ARs were ugly until recently, too)

Tastes vary, of course ;)

I do think that most such guns (Ruger, Marlin, and most esp. the Hi-Point) appear to have been deliberately designed for uglitude.

timothy
 
Wow, that is a great price! The only Dunhams I know of is a bit of a drive,and I can't seem to get them to answer the phone to find out there price.

If I could get the same deal you did, I would go get one right now! It looks like a fun range toy :)
 
A friend of mine just bougth a kel-tec sub-2000, and here's a general comparasin.

1st, while the kel-tec is nice for folding it into a small package, it seems like actually shooting the thing was an afterthough in the designer's parts. The Hi-point is much more comfortable to shoulder.

2nd, The kel-tec is much more solid, but the hi-point is larger and it doesn't seem like you are conforming to the shape of the gun so much.

3rd, The kel-tec takes glock mags which are double stack and cheap, the hi-point takes 10 rounders that are 20 bucks each. The kel-tec wins by a longshot here, and makes me want to break my hi-point just to send it in and hopefully get some free mags out of it.

4th, The charging handle is in a much better spot on the hi-point, although the kel-tec's bolt lock allows you to perform the "HK slap" and that wins....period.

I'm sure the kel-tec will be fun to shoot, and after I go to the range with my friend and beat his kel-tec with my hi-point, I'll report back here.;)
 
With the paperwork in the mail for my new Gemtech blackside, I have been looking at all of the 40 carbines to use with it. I must say that I liked the storm, just not the price. Super light weight. Handles great. The High points for the money are a great deal. Plan on picking one up the next time I come across one. The sub2000 looked interesting. So far as threading the front end, looked like it would be problematic getting it off. Then I found out it was held on with loc-tite. I ran from that one. I did like the fact that I could use my glock mags with it though. Looked at OA's 40. Pricey, but would be ready right out of the box, plus take the glock mags. Ruger also makes a 10/22 like 40 carbine, if you want the traditional gun look. To start off for now, I ended up buying the Mech Tech Glock Carbine conversion unit. I guess I settled on this for a number of reasons.....1. I have an ample supply of high capacity glock mags. 2. Could mail directly to me. 3. Cost. Ended up getting the version with the collapsable stock. Was 415 with shipping cost. I took it out last week for a test run. Just to see if it would function. No optics on it as of yet. Shot 50 rds of wolf 180 fmj though with no failures. Only concerns are.....1. No safety, but I have my Glock Blocks. 2. Does not lock open on last shot. 3. Is a bit heavier than I would have expected. 4. It has a weird harmonic hum after the shot. Not sure if it is from a long spring in it or the rods on the collapsable stock. Have put a cheap red dot on it and will try to see what we have in accuracy. Also need to get the barrel threaded.
 
MD_Willington:

That is awesome! I can hardly believe that it is a Hi Point! So, you used the ATI stock, and bought the rail as a "blank" and made your own upper rail? I am correct?

Please post link for the rail blanks...I will be adding a rail. :)

Doc2005
 
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