Hi-Point 9mm (or other) carbine. A couple of weeks back, Dunham has had a sale on Hi-Point 9mm Lugar and 40 S&W carbines. Now, I have long found these carbines to be rather odd-looking ducks. In fact, I really did not know what to make of them. I have wanted a 9mm carbine, for the family farm, for dispatching woodchucks at 50 yards and less around the barn. In these situations, a high velocity 5.56 or other similar cartridge would be inappropriate. But I can’t bring myself to expend between $1,000.00 and $1,399.00 for a Bushmaster, Rock River or Colt 9mm carbine.
I also thought it would be both fun and cost-effective to fire a 9mm carbine rather than firing high-cost 7.62s, and even the 5.56s. That aside, when I saw the Hi-Point carbines advertised for $159.00, I figured, I can’t go wrong. If it functions well, I’ll have that close-quarters woodchuck dispatcher. If it turns out to be junk, well, at least it cost only $159.00, and I see them listed for sale, used, at about that same price range, so I could sell it for little if any loss. So, I bought it.
First, I was surprised by the fact that it came with 3, 10-round magazines. I am used to receiving only 1, sometimes 2. There are also after-market 15-round magazines, and after-market stocks that take out some of the ugly-duck syndrome of the factory stock. Loading the magazine was really odd. One has to press the front of the cartridge downward to insert it into the magazine. I hoped that the way they were loaded, and by default, the way they must then feed into the chamber would not lead to FTFs.
After a through cleaning, I loaded up 100 rounds of 9mm Luger ammunition and headed to the in-door range. I ran the target to 25 yards, the farthest distance available, and fired 10 shots off hand. I inserted a fresh magazine and fired ten more shoots off hand. The attached pictures are that group of 20, off-hand shots at 25 yards with iron sights. I have little doubt that had I been firing off of a bench, with sandbags and a scope or red dot, that the little carbine would have grouped far more accurately than my sorry eyes were able to hold. The trigger was sluggish, not crisp, but it was consistent. The target attests to the fact that it is sufficient quality to be able to maintain a respectable group.
With the remainder of the 100 rounds of ammunition, I shot down steel targets at 25 yards, having fun popping four down, and then popping them back up with the fifth shot. The little carbine had zero failures of any form. Given that the little carbine maintained this group off-hand with iron sights, I rest assured that this coming summer, when the woodchucks try to out-fox-me around the barn, I will easily be able to dispatch them. Best of all, look how many rounds of 9mm I can purchase with what I saved.
Edit to add: The Hi-Point also came with two sight-options: iron sights, and a scope rail. The following website shows an after-market stock made by Advanced Technology. They show the Hi-Point with both sight options:
http://www.atigunstocks.com/installation/HIP-9000-install.html
So, I have three questions to pose to those who have, and those who have not purchased Hi-Point carbines:
1) To those who have purchased Hi-Point carbines, what has been your experience?
2) Would you recommend that others purchase one?
3) My question to those who have looked at the Hi-point and not purchased it, why did you not purchase it?
Thanks for your participation,
Doc2005
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I also thought it would be both fun and cost-effective to fire a 9mm carbine rather than firing high-cost 7.62s, and even the 5.56s. That aside, when I saw the Hi-Point carbines advertised for $159.00, I figured, I can’t go wrong. If it functions well, I’ll have that close-quarters woodchuck dispatcher. If it turns out to be junk, well, at least it cost only $159.00, and I see them listed for sale, used, at about that same price range, so I could sell it for little if any loss. So, I bought it.
First, I was surprised by the fact that it came with 3, 10-round magazines. I am used to receiving only 1, sometimes 2. There are also after-market 15-round magazines, and after-market stocks that take out some of the ugly-duck syndrome of the factory stock. Loading the magazine was really odd. One has to press the front of the cartridge downward to insert it into the magazine. I hoped that the way they were loaded, and by default, the way they must then feed into the chamber would not lead to FTFs.
After a through cleaning, I loaded up 100 rounds of 9mm Luger ammunition and headed to the in-door range. I ran the target to 25 yards, the farthest distance available, and fired 10 shots off hand. I inserted a fresh magazine and fired ten more shoots off hand. The attached pictures are that group of 20, off-hand shots at 25 yards with iron sights. I have little doubt that had I been firing off of a bench, with sandbags and a scope or red dot, that the little carbine would have grouped far more accurately than my sorry eyes were able to hold. The trigger was sluggish, not crisp, but it was consistent. The target attests to the fact that it is sufficient quality to be able to maintain a respectable group.
With the remainder of the 100 rounds of ammunition, I shot down steel targets at 25 yards, having fun popping four down, and then popping them back up with the fifth shot. The little carbine had zero failures of any form. Given that the little carbine maintained this group off-hand with iron sights, I rest assured that this coming summer, when the woodchucks try to out-fox-me around the barn, I will easily be able to dispatch them. Best of all, look how many rounds of 9mm I can purchase with what I saved.
Edit to add: The Hi-Point also came with two sight-options: iron sights, and a scope rail. The following website shows an after-market stock made by Advanced Technology. They show the Hi-Point with both sight options:
http://www.atigunstocks.com/installation/HIP-9000-install.html
So, I have three questions to pose to those who have, and those who have not purchased Hi-Point carbines:
1) To those who have purchased Hi-Point carbines, what has been your experience?
2) Would you recommend that others purchase one?
3) My question to those who have looked at the Hi-point and not purchased it, why did you not purchase it?
Thanks for your participation,
Doc2005
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Not going to happen.
