Shot my PTR-91K today

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Well I finally had a chance to get out to the rifle range today (I had to take the afternoon off to get the free time)

The gun functioned perfectly for the 200 rounds I shot today. I was shooting Argentin Surplus from Ammo Man and the gun at it up! I'll be ordering another 1K rounds atleast, hopefully more!

I started off at the 50 yard mark to make sure the sights were on paper, they weren't, I was way low at 50 yards, I turned the drum up to the 200 Meters and that bought me up some. I went to the 300 Meters mark on the sight drum and that had me about an inch low.

Then I hung a few targets out @ 100 yards, with the sight drum @ the 300 meter mark I was still about an inch low on the target, no big deal, there is an elevation adjustment on the sight drum. I was just to stupid to bring any tools with me to make the adjustments The gun was grouping fair enough for me I had a couple 20 rd groups that were 4" or so @ 100 yards. Plenty fine by me! It is atleast the Minute of Torso accurate I like my rifles to be.

The gun is really easy to shoot, even with te hard plastic butt pad on the stock it wasn't abusive to my shoulder at all.

Now the down side. I'm left handed and this rifle is not designed for any type of Ambi shooting in mind. The brass deflects right back into my face. So much so I have shell case marks on the right side of my face as well as a burn mark on my head from a shell landing in the glasses.


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I'm going to have to call JLD on Monday and ask if there is anything that they know of that can be done, if not I'm going to have to come up with some sort of shell deflector, or re train my self to shoot rifles right handed!
 
That is one of the scariest pics I have ever seen, even without the case markings! Good to hear about the new gun! :)
 
Heh. You must have really wanted to shoot that rifle. I would have quit after the first one in the face. If you don't find something to do about that your are going to develop a hell of a flinch.
 
I shoot left handed, and I've never been hit in the face by an ejecting rifle case.

I had really wanted a PTR-91, but never heard of this issue before... is it common? That looks really painful. I guess I'll be looking at another FAL when it comes time to get a .308 carbine.
 
It looks like there is something called a port buffer that is avaliable for the HK91.PTR91 models that will prevent the spent cases from flying back at my face. They are a $60 add on, but if it makes the rifle less painful to shoot, it will be worth it


I just have to find someone with them instock now.
 
I had a similar experience with my AR-180B. Unpleasant to put it mildly. I rectified this with a brass deflector made from a rubber stopper. I'm a bit surprised that a PTR-91 would do this, though. HK91/G3 type rifles (like my Century G3 clone) tend to eject empties to the front right.
 
Heh. You must have really wanted to shoot that rifle. I would have quit after the first one in the face.
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+1. You get an A for persistence. Thanks for the report. Glad I'm not a lefty, as I plan to get one of those. :)
 
I'd think something is wrong with your PTR-91K extractor/ejector. My HK-91 and two CETMEs all eject the brass forward as does every other HK/G3 style gun I've seen shot at the range.

IF the muzzle is 12 o'clock and the shooter is 6 o'clock my empties come out about 2 o'clock and fly about 20-30 feet into the weeds -- I sure wouldn't want to get hit with one!

--wally.
 
Heh, heh....guess your gun didn't realize that it was supposed to do damage to what was DOWN range :neener:

That PTR91 is sort of like my FAL, but at least mine throws its brass at other people...not me.
 
The port buffer works, I had them on my HK 91's and the brass is kicked out forward at about 2 o'clock or so. Without the buffer the 91's/G3's kick them rearward into the port, which is why you hear some complaints of brass being trashed and unreloadable. Your face is proof of where they go without the buffer. If the PTR's reciever is a good copy of the 91, the buffer should work.
 
Damn Chad! Don't forget your SAFETY GLASSES when shooting that beast.


Maybe a paintball mask is in order?? :neener:
 
Your a glutton for punishment. Us who own the JLD/G3/Cetme's know that these rifles don't just flip the hot case out, they FIRE the case about 30 feet away. :eek: Makes for an interesting time at the indoor rifle range when there is another shooter to your right. :uhoh:
 
Wow. There was a picture on another forum of a piece of brass from a CETME stuck in a 4X4 post holding up the range roof. Looks like you came close to getting brass stuck in your cheek. A deflector is definitely in order.

BTW, if the the PTR is anything like a CETME, there is an elevation adjustment on the front sight post, too. It is screwed into its socket, and you can raise and lower the front sight by turning it. You'll have to loosen a setscrew first. If its anything like a CETME...

Oh, and the front sight can adjust windage too, since it is offset on its post.
 
I'm a lefty and I was considering one of these, but this post concerns me. Do all PTR-91s eject that way? I see people saying that most HK-91s and CETMEs don't, but nothing from other PTR-91 owners.
 
Lord Bodak, look up a couple of posts. Moe Mentum wrote:
My PTR-91 throws its brass out at 1 o'clock, and about 20 feet away.
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My PTR-91 does the same thing. Brass tends to wind up in front of the firing line about 20-30 feet away. I've never had it come straight back. It's not entirely consistent, however, as the case is spinning pretty hard and bounces off the receiver on ejection. Of course, my FAL (DSA SA58) does exactly the same thing.
 
BTW, if the the PTR is anything like a CETME, there is an elevation adjustment on the front sight post, too. It is screwed into its socket, and you can raise and lower the front sight by turning it. You'll have to loosen a setscrew first. If its anything like a CETME...
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A month late but the PTR sights are nothing like the CETME's, I believe. The elevation is done with a special tool but the PTR's rear sight has a windage adjustment knob.
 
Father Knows Best, thanks! It looks like an awfully nice rifle and I don't have anything in .308. My SKS is a great rifle but a PTR-91K would be a good companion to it.
 
Now the down side. I'm left handed and this rifle is not designed for any type of Ambi shooting in mind.
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I shot LeonCarr's PTR-91 last week. I was very favorably impressed. Not one glitch in about 150 rounds of ammo. Benchrested, using open (iron) sights, and firing Portugese surplus ammo, our 3-shot groups were right at 1 3/4" at 100 yds, with two shots within 1/2" of each other.

I too am a lefty and did not experience any problems with brass. Of course, I don't have a giant bulbous head, either. :D
 
I'm a lefty also. I shot my PTR-91 yesterday. It was only my second time at the range with it, but neither time did any casings come back at me. The majority of them went front right and a couple went straight out to the right. A great gun. I just with it had a better trigger.
 
The HK type triggers take some getting used to, but once you do, they arent that bad. Williams does trigger jobs for HK type guns. My buddy had one of their match type triggers on his HK91 and its was very nice. Its more like what most are accustomed to.

http://www.williamstriggers.com/
 
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