Shower weapons? Any inventive ideas?

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Bizarre is the fact, for the first time in decades, I can sit outside on the porch, and not worry about evil.
I can do this without a CCW.
Heck, I fell asleep out on the porch, recently, and awoke at 2am.

You folks do not realize how much this means to me.
I am dead serious.

I moved to a place, not even big enough to have a dot on most maps. Nobody, knows who I am or anything about what I am quite familiar with, in regard to serious, high risk "bidness"

I had trouble sleeping the first few nights I moved, simply because it was quiet.
No gunshots, sirens, flashing lights...


There are different models of criminals, and no offense, still many of you are simply not worth their time, for what they get in return.
You have stood next to them, and never knew these ladies, or gents, were criminals.

Some of us, have experiences, with models of criminals, you will never have.
Our World, Environment, Tasks...etc.

Just like I was never a cop, or worked in a Corrections facility. Criminals often want payback, and these professionals have concerns that I do not have.

You don't have to be the cop that put someone in jail, or even be a corrections person where someone was doing time.
Some families, and friends just want a piece of your butt simply because you are/were a cop, or worked in Corrections.

I guarantee you, these professionals do not advertise, instead give the perceptions they choose to.

CCW Badge, you have to be nuts!

Law Enforcement, Corrections, Armored Car Guards, Fire Dept and other Professionals - use two wallets.
They do not want to have folks see a "badge", if they have to show ID or get something from a wallet.

Me?
Everyone has a price.
Bad enough me and mine had serious concerns with professional thugs, along with the other model of criminals, we also had folks, that could be bought.

Me and mine took some serious, prudent, preventive measures.
Bad enough I or mine have something of value with us, just kidnap us to force us to give information, or gain access to things, or force others to give information or gain access to , or...

It does not take a rocket scientist to see a hotel maid, is sorta down on her luck.
Add some folks cannot keep mouths shut.
Maybe she has a sick kid, and her car needs some repair...

Some BS story about wanting to surprise a old college roommate, or whatever, and you can have folks come in on you.

I use[d] aliases, drove different vehicles, and used vehicles with plates of the state I was in and all sorts of things.

One year at the World Shoot, a lot of vehicles were busted into.
Duh.
Out of town plates, a World Shoot going on, which means guns, and even the dumbest crook could figure out this dealie.

One year, I arrived via private plane, and attended in a vehicle with TX tags... another time I drove in using one of our vehicles with TX tags.
I and mine looked anything but, "shooters with guns".


Don't look like prey- think like a criminal.

Here is the reality.
Folks restricted (age, country, politics, legislative) are more prone to be victims.
Folks that are in high-risk industries, are more prone to be victims.
Folks in illegal activities, and associate with such folks, are prone to be victims.

You darn right I and mine carried a gun concealed indoors, and we had one handy, including the bathroom.

Which leads me to think , I need to do a another thread topic.
Not only for Pro Gun, also for Fence Sitters, and Anti's something to misquote and skew more data about.

I know some THR members, including Staff.
I assure you, many of you would never have any idea who we are, much less that we are "gun folks".
Ladies and Gents we are, and I know you would not.
Because we have surprised some folks.

I have been known to steal wives, and girlfriends and take off with them in their cars.
I come in handy sometimes.

*snicker*
 
Carrying in the shower? Does this cross the line from readiness to paranoia?

That's the way that it strikes me, but I'll give the OP the benefit of the doubt. First, though, I'd suggest that he consider the notion that, even among this group of gun-totin' self defense advocates this does seem a bit extreme.

If there's some reason behind your concerns, OP, I'd suggest that you should start a fair distance from your shower, ensuring that your exterior doors and windows are reasonably well secured. If you live in a dangerous neighborhood, simple instrusion alarms aren't all that expensive.

I can't think of too many scenarios that would cause me to take a gun into the shower with me. If things are that bad, I'll just opt for a sponge bath. :D But, keeping a gun under a towel within fairly handy reach seems not-too-unreasonable. Finally, if you really feel you need to have something serious at your disposal in the shower, I'd suggest thinking about a sheathed diving knife. Waterproof and formidable, it's only lacking in the ability to go "bang."

But, I have to ask: What the H-E-double hockey sticks causes you to be this concerned?
 
Stainless knife with a non-slip handle. At the ranges encountered in most bathrooms, you could inflict more damage or quicker death with a knife.
 
I posted before reading the thread about the mid-afternoon invasion. I now stand corrected about the threat issue. Still think it's a good idea to put a good lock on a good door. The same thinking has me wanting to upgrade my BR door with a good lock, as I tend to awaken slowly.
 
If this is a real concern, I'd start my line of defense before the shower. Barricade the bathroom door with something heavy or wedge the door so it can't be easily opened. This way, you'll have plenty of notice if a BG is trying to bust-in during your bathing.

A barricaded door gives you time to wipe the soap from your eyes and get the pistola you have taken into the bathroom with you.
 
psyopspec,

Thank you sir.

I best clarify, a bit...
I am a guy, and after spending time with ugly smelly guys like myself all day, well...
Girls are prettier, smell better, so I and the gals do run some errands. Like get the beer, wine and eats.

We leave the ugly smelly guys to get the place straighten up, set the table, and other stuff.
I get out of having to do that.
I got pretty gals that smell pretty to drive around.
I volunteer.

Heck, I even suggest the gals and I go run some other errands while the ugly smelly guys do the dishes after we eat.

I do make it back to have the evening cigar with the boys.

*smart huh*

Strategy & Tactics encompass a whole lot more , than some realize around here.
I keep telling folks, not everything defaults to "gun".

*grin*
 
For those who carry a pocket pistol such as a BUG, the easiest answer is to just leave that pistol in your pants pocket, and bring your pants into the bathroom when you shower.
That also gives you something to wear if you get interrupted, and might even bring your cellphone with you (in case your emergency requires making a call).
 
But, I have to ask: What the H-E-double hockey sticks causes you to be this concerned?

I get asked that SAME EXACT QUESTION by anti gunners all the time when they find out I have a concealed carry weapon.:barf:
 
I put my carry piece on a little stand in my bathroom like may others. To actually keep it in the shower makes it a little too complicated to me. Hope you find something that works..
 
In all seriousness, get some basic empty-handed self-defense training.

Sounds like even the best shower gun ideas don't have it in there with you or at least are nearer the attacker than the showerer.

That said, I am now more aware of what is available to an intruder when I am showering with the radio on and the gats are all still on 'night ready'. Hmm, seems I better make my morning rounds include locking up the hardware.

Off the top of my head, there may be a few weapons at the ready like a shampoo bttle, but unikely to be of any use except as an extension of the palm-heel. My take: go for the old stand-by's of eyes, throat, ear, groin with fist or thumb. Something to get them off you, get by them, and get outta there or go where you know your weapon is.

I'd have to say this 'guns in the shower' question has me feeling better about having taken a beer in there with me on more than one occasion...
 
I have three big ole dogs so all get plenty of warning that said I keep a pocket pistol in a holster in my towel cubboard glued an old crap holster there and my gun is secured inside easy for me to grab.
 
Kinda reminds me of that scene in The Good the Bad and the Ugly, when Tuco shoots the guy from the bathtub. But yeah, I see nothing wrong with carrying while in the shower. I don't do it, but if people want to I say more power to them.


Oh! Get one of those marine magnum 870s!!!
 
When I first saw the vacuum sealed Glock I laughed my butt off, but upon further reflection the OP does have a point. If someone wanted to be a bit more discrete about it, they could seal a gun up and tape it behind the toilet or under the sink. I saw a .357 EEA Windicator snubby with an awful finish for $150 at the pawnshop the other day, with something like that I could live with any rust buildup and just keep it greased up and out of sight in the bathroom.
 
If you want to put a few dollars into it, I'm sure a Pelican case can be found that can fit a pistol rather well. These are about as water-tight as something can get. A case that can fit a pistol will probably run $50 or so. I've dropped Pelican cases with my iPod and cell phone into lakes before while kayaking, and the electronics inside were 100% dry when I pulled them out, so I doubt moisture from the air would get in while in the bathroom. You cold either put the case in a cabinet if you want to be discrete, or even take it into the shower with you. Toss a few dissicant packs that you find in shoeboxes in as well as an extra precaution.
 
You can't eliminate risk completely. You can only reduce it to a level you are comfortable with. For me a few minutes a day in the shower unarmed is an acceptable risk.

Your mileage may vary so here's an idea:

http://www.ewa-marine.de/index.php?id=61

They're made for keeping your valuables dry while sailing. You could shoot through it if you have to.
 
I don't see how this is any different than any other situation.

As for me, I keep only one gun (usually my carry) accessable and the rest locked up. I don't stash guns in every room of the house so that a thug can pick up one right after he kicks my door in; I keep my pistol on me or with me in whichever room I'm in instead.

When I shower it's holstered on the toilet tank lid next to the shower. With the door closed, I will have ample time to grab my gun should someone throw the door open. If you don't have a toilet next to your shower, you can buy a small table or organizer which will serve the same (gun-related) purpose.

My gun (PT-140 Mil Pro) only gets condensation on it after a long shower and has shown no signs of rust. If you lay a towel over your gun it should prevent any problems.

Of course, if you're Clint Eastwood, just keep your blackpowder revolver at the bottom of your bathtub and shoot it as though it were dry.
 
Derringer

I have two Davis Derringers just for that, one 22 and one 25. When I am at a camp growund or on a motel room, I place them in a plastic soap dish and take them right into the shower.
 
This is a legitimate concern. I have used a gun once before to defend myself, and it was on my front stoop/sidewalk. I live in a very good neighborhood too.

My suggestion would be to keep something just outside the shower. My toilet is right next to my shower, as are many bathrooms, so sitting a handgun on top of the tank lid, or leaning a long gun next to it would be a good solution. I would also suggest getting a dog, or two, or three like I have. They will alert me if anyone steps as much as a toe on the property. I would most certainly know if someone was even close to the house, let alone inside it. They would have to get past a solid front door, two Shepherds, and most challenging...the Chihuahua...before even getting to the stairs to come up. I do not consider the dogs to be personal defense, but an early alert system. I would personally combine storing the gun outside of the shower, along with getting a dog.
 
Gunwitch posted an interesting question that deserves some head-scratching from the rest of us.

A few things off the top of my head :

- Like others have said, a good door and lock to prevent access to the bathroom or house is a great idea. You will be preoccupied and your ability to hear/see what is going on in the house is distinctly limited while you are in the shower. Maybe increase your ability to detect an intruder by making sure that you have loud alarm sirens on all of your doors and windows.

- The environment you presented, the shower, is about the worst-case scenario for ammunition reliability. Your temperature fluctuates from 70degF to 115degF on a daily (or more than daily) basis and the air is basically saturated with water. Holy Toledo. Your ammo would probably still fire just fine after a while of doing this ... but if you're a one-in-a-million kind of guy, you may find that your ammunition has been degraded/inerted by having it in/near the shower.

- Take the ammunition that you plan on using in the gun and pull a couple of bullets out of the cases. Check the sides of the bullet and the inside of the case to see if you can see any black 'tar' looking stuff. That is the casemouth sealant and all credible defensive ammunition should have it. If your ammunition is not waterproofed to this level, I would find some that was.

Good luck with that.

John
 
Would be ok to combine this with bears? As in what kind of pistol do you take into the shower with you to protect you from bear attack. No way to say that cannot happen - I do not know the statistics but I bet the facts and aftermath are grim.
 
I think some people are just thinking "gun in shower=silly" and disregarding the whole idea at that. If you think the idea is stupid, just ask yourself why is being in the shower any different than being in any other room. Can you hear your door being pushed in while in your kitchen? If so, would you put your hand on your weapon to prepare for the worst? I think the reasonable answer to this question is yes. Most of us would react to the sound of a forcible entry by putting hands on a firearm. Ok, so now that we've established that as reasonable, ask yourself if it's possible for this forcible entry to take place while you are showering. Just consider it. That's all that I ask. Take the situation of you hearing a BG outside while sitting in your rec-room, and how you would react; and transplant it to you being in the shower, and then reconsider how you react.
 
For those of you living in restricted areas of the USA, and in other countries, the bathroom affords a lot of "expedient weapons", as have been shared, and alluded to already.

Beer bottle- proper way is hold at the base of the bottle and strike with the neck of the bottle.

Shampoo/ Conditioner Bottles, same deal

Pay attention to fixtures, such as towel racks.

Here in the US, and where I built new construction, new construction did not install fixtures in the bathroom.
The wife and I installed our own.
We installed our own bath towel, hand towel racks and even toilet tissue dispenser.

The fixtures were part of what we bought, still for liability reasons, these were not installed by builder.
Simple, they don't want someone to slip, grab a towel rack to break their fall, and have that towel rack not hold, and them get sued for injuries due to falls.

In a hotel/motel/ they have stuff "most often" bolted down to keep folks from stealing them.

Point being, at home, you might be able to yank a towel rack, or shower curtain rod down to use to defend.

In a hotel/motel/ you might not as they are bolted in that well.

Here is my point:
One never knows the where or when of next encounter - C.R.Sam

At home, whether you have a right to firearms or not, you know your setting.
You know that lamp in the front room could be used to defend, or the fixtures in the bathroom, including that picture on the wall and the toothbrushes could be used to defend.

You have shared with your teenage daughter some things , like using that shampoo bottle, when she uses the showers at the camp ground, or stays overnight for a church sleep in, or ...

You have shared with family, to look for exits when going out to eat, seeing a movie, or out shopping in public places.

Vacation time is coming up. You have to access the environments you are in.
It is easy to get distracted when kids see that pool at the hotel and are wanting to go swimming.

Criminals take advantage of such distractions, and use them.
You don't have to be a traveling sales person to be a target. Some models of criminals just want credit cards, cash and ID. Some sick bastids are into kids.
Some sick bastids are into sexual assault and rape of teen age gals.

If your 15 year old daughter is left in the room, while adults go get ice, and something out of the car, whatever, and she is rinsing out her bathing suit in the bathroom...

The non firearm lessons at home, like using that lamp, or towel rack, may not work in that hotel.
They are bolted down.

Just because one is of legal age, and can legally CCW, does not mean everyone is going to be safe.
Too many CCW-ers think of only themselves, and not those underage, that cannot CCW.

A lot of darn good a 25 year old full of piss-n-vinegar , with master blaster gun and tack-tickle knife is going to do, when they are getting ice, or taking care of business at the front desk, or whatever, when niece or nephew, or cousin, or anyone under age legal age to CCW is in a hotel room, or near the room, or out at the pool.

Hey , maybe 52 year old mom, is from a state where she cannot have or get CCW.
Maybe that relative from out of the US is the one being targeted, that is staying in a hotel.


Florida led the way with CCW and Repricosity. Too many folks from out of town, with out of town plates, and rental cars being victims.

Even a kid can read "Hertz" or "Enterprise" on a car and knows that is a rental car.
Kids play license plate games, and they can figure out someone is from out of town.

If kids can say "Look mom, dad, that car is from the same rental place as ours, and they are pulling into the same hotel as we are. Look, there is a girl my age, maybe will meet out at the pool".

You don't think a criminal cannot?

Software, it does not hurt to have some good software, and to keep adding good software to one's brain.

The brain is the only darn thing you are assured of having on person all the time.
 
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