Shower weapons? Any inventive ideas?

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I jokingly mentioned the other day that some people here may have shower holsters and pajama holsters. Guess not everybody thought it was that funny.

If any of you ever read the book "Papillion" you know where he put his valuables.

If you are seriously considering this, maybe you ought to seriously consider moving to a safer neighborhood. And stop watching reruns of "Psycho".
 
So essentially, you all are saying "don't get caught with your pants down," so to speak..................wait :p

All joking aside, thanks for the thoughts on hotels. My job requires me to fly out of town, on occasion, so no gun at the hotel. The pointers are appreciated.
 
I'm quite surprised with some of the responses on this thread. This is a forum dedicated to being prepared for unexpected situations. I don't understand how a group of people can support CCW at McDonald's, Chuck E. Cheese, and Wal-Mart, or even in the home "just in case", and then attack somebody who carries in the bathroom with terms like "paranoid". Many here seem to think that it is reasonable to believe that a person can be attacked in their own home, but "paranoid" to think that such an attack might occur while he/she is in the shower. :confused: It's reasonable to carry in the kitchen, den, bedroom, and backyard, but if you carry into the bathroom, you're crazy from watching Psycho one too many times?

Would be ok to combine this with bears? As in what kind of pistol do you take into the shower with you to protect you from bear attack.
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Are you implying that every CCW carrier here carries to protect himself from bears? Oh, of course: violent crime only happens outside the home, right?

But, I have to ask: What the H-E-double hockey sticks causes you to be this concerned?
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Do you own a gun? If so, what the H-E-double hockey sticks causes you to be so concerned? Do you routinely carry? If so, what the H-E-double hockey sticks causes you to be so concerned? Or is being prepared for a violent confrontation outside your home normal, being prepared for a violent confrontation inside your home is perfectly acceptable, but being prepared for a violent confrontation inside your bathroom crosses the line into paranoia? I'm sure we all wish we could schedule violent encounters when it is most convenient for us, but unfortunately that is not possible.

If a few minutes every day unprotected in the shower is an acceptable risk for you, great. It would be for me too. But to criticize somebody for ensuring their own security while in the shower, on a sub-forum dedicated to strategies and tactics for situations that the vast majority of people will never encounter seems extremely hypocritical.

ETA: This http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=448157 thread demonstrates the necessity of being armed at all times.
 
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Honestly, showering with a pistol sounds a little unsafe. I mean, if you've holstered it ad are wearing it (which just sounds crazy), you could perhaps accidentally set it off. It would suck to shoot yourself while showering, or in the least to add another drain to unit.

Then there is rusting. Your going to constantly get the pistol wet? Not a good idea in any scenario.

Here's an idea, buy a watch-dog. In the event someone breaks in, or even slips in like a ninja, you'll be alerted.


Boy this whole thread sounds crazy. I'm going to see a therapist. :evil:
 
Honestly, showering with a pistol sounds a little unsafe. I mean, if you've holstered it ad are wearing it (which just sounds crazy), you could perhaps accidentally set it off. It would suck to shoot yourself while showering, or in the least to add another drain to unit.
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I think most people mean "showering with a gun" as "showering with a gun within reach". If it means showering with a loaded gun in a holster on one's person, then I retract all previous statements and acknowledge that as the crossover from preparedness to paranoia. :neener:
 
I don't feel that in my current situation that I need a handgun in the shower. I know that i've been in some rest areas on long trips showering and had a dive knife that won't rust in the shower with me. (check local laws, most rest areas and the like are deemed no ccw)
 
1. My door is locked, and has one of those dollar store alarms, if the door is opened, the thing freaks out.
2. The other entry point is the window. That is IT. It has slide locks on it.
3. Either way in the guy has to deal with my German Shepherd/Rottweiler female which is only a year old yes, but barks so hard she chokes herself.
4. If the guy enters, the dog will go for him. If the guy isn't deterred by the dog, and hurts the dog, then I will hear this too.

In the shower I should listen for 3-4 things. The alarm, the dog my locked door to my room getting busted in or attempting to, and some yelling from the dog if the bad guy does something to her.
If I can't hear these things in my shower, then I am deaf. I will run out naked, run to my gun in the room take that safety off and start waiting for that idiot to try and get me. You don't need a shower gun. That is ridiculous in its own right.
http://www.nononsenseselfdefense.com/saferoom.htm
There is my proof. Common sense says pay attention so you don't need a gun in the shower. I guess a strategically placed one in your "safe room" would be good. Fine. But specifically for showering? How paranoid can you get? Keep a wooden sword or something if you really feel the need.
 
So I live just outside of Richmond VA and this type of thing always brings me back to a crime committed here recently. Some scumbags walked into a house on new years day a couple years ago in Richmond (I don't think they had to even "break in") and the short of it is that they ended up tying up the family of four - including two small children - and cut their throats. Doesn't get much more evil that that.

Point is, I always keep in mind what the chances for that family "might" have been if papa had been armed. This type of horrible event could happen at the dinner table, while napping on Sunday afternoon, while getting ready for a holiday celebration..., or while in the shower.

Regardless of the inconvenience or whether one of my pieces gets rusty from sitting in a humid bathroom, I choose to be ready. It's my duty.
 
I can see how some people would think the OP is paranoid. The mental image of a grown man wearing a gun while showering just screams 'gun nut.'

Still, the OP and many other posters in this thread have a very valid point; home invasions can happen at any time, especially when you're not ready for it.

I always lock the bathroom door while showering (not that that would stop anyone), and I usually keep a pistol in the bathroom with me if I'm home alone. If my wife is home I don't worry about it as she knows where the weapons are kept and how to use them (we have a quick access safe for the pistols).

I've also arranged my bedroom so that an intruder would have to go around my very large bed to get to the bathroom door, so hopefully I'd hear him/her break down the bedroom door (which i lock when no one else is home and I'm showering) and have a few seconds to get ready before they made it to the bathroom door.

I don't actually take the weapon into the shower with me, but rather I leave it on the counter pointed in a safe direction, chambered with the safety on. My bathroom is small enough that I could reach it from the shower. I'm betting that I could get my hands on it before an intruder would even realize it's there.

I like burning hot showers and live in a very humid and salty environment near the ocean. Ever since I noticed a spot of rust on one of my CCW weapons I've kept a silicon rag in the bottom of the pistol safe, and occasionally (like once every other month) wipe the pistols down with it. Other than that, they just sit on it at night while locked up. I haven't had any problems with rust since I started doing that, despite exposing them to steamy bathrooms and carrying them IWB while sweating.

The OP may be a paranoid gun nut, but being paranoid doesn't necessarily mean they aren't out to get him, and being a gun nut just makes him better prepared. :evil:
 
You folks making fun, pay attention.

I shared early on, as I have time and time again, one has to access themselves and their environments.

I mentioned again, as I have time and time again, there are models of criminals many are not familiar with, and no disrespect, still you are not worth their time and effort, for what they get into return.

We have professional lock/safe/alarm persons as members of this forum, they have clientele that "need" security many do not. Often times Insurance companies have requirements that must be met.

Again I shared, as I have time and time again, the economy is again bad, and if you check your history, when things get bad, some crimes occur that in "better times" might not.

i.e the price of gold, is again above $800 an ounce. Check some history on some crimes that occurred in 1980.

Folks busted in for jlry, coins, even silverware, to sell it for scrap.

Now not many guys, with 30 can Bud Light abs, get whistled at and have cat calls "oh baby!".

Bad guys see you with another 30 pack, TV dinners, Fast Food, or pizza delivered, and coming and going in your boring car ...well...

You have a better chance of being a target staying out of town, for your wallet, credit cards , cash and car, than at home.


Just like in an apt, one can hear when one is taking a shower in a hotel/motel.
Models of criminals work in teams. Most folks only see, or report to police only one or two bad guys.
They don't see the team.

Ask any cop, about out of town visitors and some of the ploys used on guests at hotels.


Perceptions.

Take a attractive lady, that is a pharmaceutical representative. Call it sexist if you want, still Drug and Medical companies are using more and more ladies for this work, instead of men.

"Drug Rep" is the common name, and some criminals just attach the word "drug" to illegal drugs.
Maybe all the young lady represents is heart meds, blood pressure meds or diabetes, or maybe, no drugs at all, instead instruments.

She is a good looking lady, which automatically attract some Predators.
She is a "drug rep" , so there is another check mark for some Predators.

You damn straight these gals take precautions, I know, as I have assisted with these ladies that travel.

Do you want your 30 year old daughter raped and robbed at a motel? Criminals thought your daughter had "drugs" and she is a rep for diabetic kits and meds.
They get pissed there are no "good drugs" so they rape, beat, maybe kill her, and take off in her car.

Dammit! There is a brotherhood amongst persons that travel. And there are various levels of this brotherhood if you will.
I was in high risk, and I and mine had a very very tight circle. Assume nothing, trust nobody.
WE did take the lady sales reps, into our circle.

You can make fun if you want, or you can ask Mas Ayoob, Tom Givens, Awerbuck, Clint Smith, and some others.
They will not share details, or the "industries" , they will share they do have students in such industries.

There exists a brotherhood. Just like it does not matter what branch of the Military, there is a brotherhood.

Well there exists a brotherhood of those that travel, and have to stay in motels and hotels.

My bosses had houses, and other places I and mine stayed at. It was not safe for me and mine to stay at hotels and motels, some/often times.

We had our own people, network, we trusted.
I have had to rush to a location, a hotel or motel as one of our kind was taken down.
It ain't pretty.

There is safety in numbers, so even in different industries, we were on the road together.
We ate together, and watched six for each other.

You want this for your daughter, out on the road. You want this for a husband and father of your children.


You truckers, don't tell these folks about having to take a shower at the truck stop, they will be on your case next.


Ya'll do what you will...
The reality is...

You cannot change people, places and things, the only thing you can change is you, and how you deal with people, places and things. - AA
 
2 Scenarios:

You're sitting in your rec room watching tv after work. Your wife is upstairs. You've got your pistol on the table next to you after taking it off for the day. You hear a noise on your porch. Perhaps it's a cat or raccoon. So you turn the tv down and listen more. Now you hear the sound of your doorknob being worked with. Definitely not an animal. You stand up with your pistol in one hand and your cell phone in the other set to dial 911 if the need arises. As you quietly walk into the room your front door opens up into, the door opens. Standing on the porch is a young mean looking punk in a black hooded sweatshirt with a screwdriver in his hand. He sees you. Then he sees your pistol. The next thing you see is his back as he runs while you hit "Send" on your phone, calling the authorities.



You're taking a shower after work. Your pistol is in your nightstand draw after taking it off for the day. Your wife is upstairs. There is a noise on the porch, but you don't hear it as you're in the shower with the water running. The doorknob starts to jiggle, but you don't hear that either. As you exit the shower, standing in the middle of your living room is a young mean looking punk in a black hooded sweatshirt with a screw driver in his hand. He sees you with nothing but a wet towel and a startled look on your face. And then you....


This is where the naysayers fill in the rest describing how exactly they pull themselves out of this one.
 
Snap him with the towel! lol Hey I got made fun of plenty for the post I deserve one joke back.

But seriously Ragnar that is the case where the punk with the screwdrivers last racing thought would be "Jesus I really do have the worst luck what are the odds a guy would be coming out of the bathroom in a towel with a pistol"

For some I can't believe they don't wrap up a pistol or at least a cheap revolver in a towel and take it in the bathroom with them when they shower. They could very easily come out to a nasty suprise.

I am a former criminal, I never attacked anyone in the shower or anything, but when casing a house in my youth, I never ever considered while peeping in windows, that someone could be in a bathroom taking a shower before I entered.

Why I consider and worry of these things.

Many here are right, rule number 1 for burglary, no dogs.

My main concern if being bumrushed IN the shower, to which the suggestion about the tuperware really is a good idea. I am not much of a pet person however so the dog wouldn't be practical for me. Learning to use a full size knife properly isn't a bad idea either, as the punch dagger I have is short and I wonder about the stopping power vs straight punches (with my size and ability that is). Comparative to as the one guy said a good 7 inch blade knife would inflict more damage than a gun up close really.

I just hate the idea of any sort of close quarters combat with knives or clubs in my own home. Someone attacks me on the toilet or in my shower it isn't exactly time for a "man to man lets see who is tougher contest" in my book, they need to die as fast as possible without my skill/size vs theirs being a factor. That is assuming they are unarmed, if armed I SURELY don't wanna go in to the situation naked (literally and figurative).

I have considered perhaps a tupperware container (thanks for the idea) with a snub nose, perhaps a baby glock as one guy said they are fairly rust proof, hidden behind a tile in a compartment in the shower. Check it weekly for rust etc, see how it goes.
 
Of the eight homicides in my hometown 2004-2006, at least five were home invasions, so I don't think "shower gun" idea is all wet.

Some folks make their bathroom a safe room or panic room with (a) burglar proof door (b) portable phone (c) flashlight (d) fire extinguisher (e) first aid kit and (f) defensive weaponry. Could easily double as a storm shelter if in a well-constructed part of the house.
 
 
If you're caught off guard in the shower against someone armed with a knife or a pistol, you're pretty much screwed. And there's little chance that you'll hear anyone burglarizing your place while you're in the shower. The only reason I see that having a gun in the bathroom with you might be beneficial is if you got out of the shower to hear or see someone lurking inside your home.

In the shower, that ridiculous vacuum sealed Glock posted earlier actually sounds like a good idea.
 
When it happened to me, I went after him naked, dripping wet, and empty handed. Search using my name and shower as key words if you want details. Pretty sure I posted about both here and at TFL.
 
Anyone for whom this is a legitimate and serious concern probably already has the plan and the hardware.

You know, I suffered a lot of abuse as a child. I was frequently smacked around by my mother, especially, who would totally lose it, and who went so far as to kick, spit on, and bite me, in addition to hitting me with things.

I was small, chubby and bookish, and I was picked on by other kids, and even though I fought back, in high school I was in a fight during which I was slammed multiple times against a cinder block wall hard enough that I had a lump on the side of my head for about seven years.

I became a fitness freak at 19, and dropped down to less than 7% body fat after months of spending pro-athlete amounts of time in the gym. I bought my first centerfire, a Glock 21, soon after turning 21. Since it was high-capacity, had no manual safety to disengage, and in the almighty .45 ACP, it seemed the ULTIMATE!!!1 handgun. I began buying "tactical" knives, and beehive rounds, and API for my own End of Days scenario, when the bad guys came to take away my freedom.

I moved to Ohio to train with Stephen Hayes. I received my first professional firearms training while there (at that time, there was no CCW). I continued to build my own minor arsenal, focusing on black firearms, of course. I later moved to Atlanta, again, mostly to train. I always kept trying to get the "best" rifle, duty handgun, deep concealment piece, folding knife, fighting knife, you name it.

I never wanted to not be able to effectively defend myself again. I had to be ready.

One day I was talking to Bud Malstrom, and I was spouting off about some other gun or knife. He told me, "I can stop a tank with a stick."

"Oh, yeah?" I was thinking he meant jam the stick into the road wheels.

"Yeah. With a stick, I can get a handgun. With a handgun, I can get a rifle. With a rifle, I can get an anti-tank launcher."

His point was about individual capability, not over-focusing on having the "perfect" defensive tool.

Some time after this, I was with a female friend in a "sterile" environment (amusement park with metal detectors). It looked like a riot was about to develop, and we were surrounded by several thousand mid-teen to very early twenties types from the bad part of Atlanta. I told her "Grab my belt in the back, and don't let go."

And in that moment, knowing I could be facing any number of young gang members while I was weaponless and with someone to protect, I was at peace. We were going to be fine.

We made it to our car without incident, but it didn't matter. I would have handled whatever challenges arose.


Stop trying to find hardware solutions to software problems.

John
 
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When it happened to me, I went after him naked, dripping wet, and empty handed. Search using my name and shower as key words if you want details. Pretty sure I posted about both here and at TFL.
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Joe, no results per the search you described, but I'd be curious to read if you had time to copy and paste from TFL.
 
Here's the story with a correction or two for spelling:

I actually took on a burglar while naked, once. I was also unarmed. He was rather badly beaten by the time I let him go. Funnily enough, being naked was not a concern. I was concerned whether he had any confederates. I was concerned whether he had found the 9mm I had hidden in the living room. My package totale tolling like Big Ben was not a concern.
See, what happened was that he came in through the front door w/ a key he had from a previous tenant. I had only been in the apartment a day or two and hadn't yet changed the locks. I was in the shower when he made his entry and started piling up such of my belongings as caught his fancy.
Whilst drying my taut, muscular body, I heard him. Peeking out, I saw his bad chemically-altered pachuco self w/ my stereo in hands.
One naked, dripping wet, very angry science teacher came rocketing out of that bathroom and jumped on that poor, chemically dependant yoot. I pounded him badly and then took him to the floor. That maneuver also caused us to go out the front door and onto the parking lot.
There, I was just getting well into kneeling on his chest and demolishing his face, when the nudity issue finally became important to me. A quiet little voice in my head (Jesus?) said "Think how this will look if the police arrive right now."
I retreated back into my apt. He took off for parts unknown. Luckily, he hadn't found my 9.
Lessons learned:
1. Change the locks the moment you move in.
2. Have a bathroom gun.
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When I originally posted about this in 2003, the story was already some years in the past. I wish I still had the "taut, muscular body" I towelled off in my yoot.
 
I'm still working on this, myself. I'm probably eventually going to start setting my Glock on top of the toilet tank (it's right next to the shower). it won't be hurt by a bit of humidity, as long as I keep taking care of it.
 
Just to think outside the box. Are there any judo, jiu-jitsu, or muay thai clubs in your area? Don't put all your eggs in one basket, diversify your skills?
 
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