Preacherman
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Now, now, now... leave the poor DU'ers alone! They might think this was an orc-estrated attack on them!
SHTF w/a twist? (A bit funny)
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jefnvk
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What are the trebughets again?
Keeping this in line with WWII equipment, an M1 for me. I'm not going up against those Orcs with a .223. Maybe a 12 loaded with slugs, too. Definitely would take the .45.
Keeping this in line with WWII equipment, an M1 for me. I'm not going up against those Orcs with a .223. Maybe a 12 loaded with slugs, too. Definitely would take the .45.
mfree
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*ahem*.
Phalanx 1, fire *obscenely loud noise*
Phalanx 2, fire *another obscenely loud noise*
Phalanx (etc etc etc)
...then wait a few minutes for the red cloud of blood mist to settle and ATTEMPT to count enemy casualties
I wonder how many orcs an APDS 20mm round would go through and still posess the energy to blow one up like a ground squirrel hit by a 22-250?
Of course, my phalanxes (really M60A1 gatling guns) would be the later 4,500RPM models with quite a bit more than 1,550 rounds on hand...
Afterwards, a patchwork army of riflemen with M91/30's pick off the remainder at distance.
Phalanx 1, fire *obscenely loud noise*
Phalanx 2, fire *another obscenely loud noise*
Phalanx (etc etc etc)
...then wait a few minutes for the red cloud of blood mist to settle and ATTEMPT to count enemy casualties
I wonder how many orcs an APDS 20mm round would go through and still posess the energy to blow one up like a ground squirrel hit by a 22-250?
Of course, my phalanxes (really M60A1 gatling guns) would be the later 4,500RPM models with quite a bit more than 1,550 rounds on hand...
Afterwards, a patchwork army of riflemen with M91/30's pick off the remainder at distance.
Tim L
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Hmm, probably want something American or Russian instead of those Tigers and Elephants. they might be good, but because of their weight they have some reliability issues on the long marches. Go with the 105mm Shermans or SU 122 based on the T-34. A few Flakvierlings (quad 20mm AA guns) mounted on half tracks and the US M16 quad .50 AA halftracks be all set. Maybe throw in a few 76mm shermans or T-34/76s for any possible heavy armor they may bring up.
Tim
Tim
Brian Dale
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jefnvk, a trebuchet is just like a catapult, except that it gets its power from a counterweight instead of from twisted ropes.
mons meg
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I have a better idea...
The original post mentioned 155mm artillery, correct?
There must be enough past and presnt redleg types on this board to outfit 2 or 3 M198's. As for myself, I have impeccable credentials in fire direction and control. Surely one or two of the Ricky Recon Ranger types on this board have training as forward observers.
Register a few pre-planned targets at strategic river crossings, precut the powder bags and line up the ammo...the orcs don't make it past Osgiliath.
Ok, to give the riflemen and shotgunners something to do...they can be our anti-air if the Nazgul figure out what's going on in time.
The original post mentioned 155mm artillery, correct?
There must be enough past and presnt redleg types on this board to outfit 2 or 3 M198's. As for myself, I have impeccable credentials in fire direction and control. Surely one or two of the Ricky Recon Ranger types on this board have training as forward observers.
Register a few pre-planned targets at strategic river crossings, precut the powder bags and line up the ammo...the orcs don't make it past Osgiliath.
Ok, to give the riflemen and shotgunners something to do...they can be our anti-air if the Nazgul figure out what's going on in time.
Sam Adams
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I went over to the SB site, and found the following:
So, it seems, we can have anything that we can get our hands on. However, in the spirit of the weapons mentioned in the original post, let's stick with WW2 stuff.
We have an awful lot of crufflers on THR (including yours truly). Thus, armament wouldn't be too much of a problem.
The MBR would have to be the Garand, as it can put out an awful lot of firepower quickly and one need not be a firearms whiz to use it decently (for those from SB). Separate units would have to be set up armed with Enfields, Mausers and Mosin-Nagants (keeping the units together helps with ammo resupply and spare parts).
The sniper role would be taken by those with either K-31s or Finnish M39s, the latter of which helped the Finns to fight off hordes of Communist near-orcs in 1940 and 1941. I have to give preference to the M39s, only because finding a load of surplus Commie ammo would be easier than finding the Swiss GP-11 (and a lot cheaper, leaving more dough to buy either more ammo, or bunches of beater rifles at local pawnshops, etc.).
Machine guns: its gotta be Ma-Deuce, friends. Mount them jeeps to plug any holes in the lines. If anyone has any quad-50's, then that's the route to making Orcs extinct a lot quicker.
For shorter range arty, I have to go with the Katyusha rocket launchers (although availability here might be a problem. If we can transport ourselves to Lebanon and steal a bunch from Hamas, then we'd be in good shape). The noise on those suckers would scare even those giant elephant things $hiiteless.
Long range arty: 8-inch wheeled howitzers, loaded with an AP load.
AAA: Someone's got to go to those battleship museums and grab a bunch of those twin 20mm cannon. Best stuff out there in WW2 to fill the air with lead; nothing bigger needed against those big bird things, as they can't carry enough armor to warrant a bigger round.
OK, so what if we're talking about modern equipment?
MBR is the M1A - that's right, the semi-auto version of the M14. Its more controllable, easier for R. Lee Ermy and his kind to enforce fire discipline with, and much more available and affordable.
Main Sniper weapon: Loads of Savage 110s or Remington 700's in .308 (to have ammo compatibility with the MBRs).
Specialty Sniper weapon: The same .50 caliber weapon being used in a sniper role in the Afghan mountains.
Machine gun: Ma-Deuce. Some things can't be improved upon.
Arty: the MLRS, loaded on Bradleys that are chock full of 25mm shells for that wonderful chaingun they mount.
Air support: a) Rotary wing - ain't nothing better than the Apache Longbow
b) Fixed wing - AC130 Spectre/Puff the Magic Dragon and A-10 Thunderbolt/Warthog. Loads and loads and loads of 30mm ammo for Mr. GAU-8.
AAA - Sorry, we're going to have to strip the Navy of all of its Phalanx gun systems. Rockets may be nice, but I like the idea of having lots of lead in the air. Besides, depress the guns and they can be used to shoot the Orcs if there's a breakthrough - try that with a Stinger.
Needless to say, boatloads of ammo for all weapons involved. Troops go to the field with all that they can carry.
The 36 hours of prep time in Minas Tirith would be spent sighting in weapons, cleaning and lubing them, loading mags and digging into fixed positions. I'd try to have a few ditches filled up with gasoline, so that the attack could be channeled more effectively. We'd also need to work on communications, so that any gaps would be plugged real quickly.
Even if all we brought was standard infantry weapons, I think that there'd be an absolute slaughter of the Orcs. Sheesh, even the Romans from "Gladiator" knew how to throw up a crapload of firepower - they'd have done better than the LOTR jerks did - and we have roughly 1800 years of additional technological improvements to help us out.
So, it seems, we can have anything that we can get our hands on. However, in the spirit of the weapons mentioned in the original post, let's stick with WW2 stuff.
We have an awful lot of crufflers on THR (including yours truly). Thus, armament wouldn't be too much of a problem.
The MBR would have to be the Garand, as it can put out an awful lot of firepower quickly and one need not be a firearms whiz to use it decently (for those from SB). Separate units would have to be set up armed with Enfields, Mausers and Mosin-Nagants (keeping the units together helps with ammo resupply and spare parts).
The sniper role would be taken by those with either K-31s or Finnish M39s, the latter of which helped the Finns to fight off hordes of Communist near-orcs in 1940 and 1941. I have to give preference to the M39s, only because finding a load of surplus Commie ammo would be easier than finding the Swiss GP-11 (and a lot cheaper, leaving more dough to buy either more ammo, or bunches of beater rifles at local pawnshops, etc.).
Machine guns: its gotta be Ma-Deuce, friends. Mount them jeeps to plug any holes in the lines. If anyone has any quad-50's, then that's the route to making Orcs extinct a lot quicker.
For shorter range arty, I have to go with the Katyusha rocket launchers (although availability here might be a problem. If we can transport ourselves to Lebanon and steal a bunch from Hamas, then we'd be in good shape). The noise on those suckers would scare even those giant elephant things $hiiteless.
Long range arty: 8-inch wheeled howitzers, loaded with an AP load.
AAA: Someone's got to go to those battleship museums and grab a bunch of those twin 20mm cannon. Best stuff out there in WW2 to fill the air with lead; nothing bigger needed against those big bird things, as they can't carry enough armor to warrant a bigger round.
OK, so what if we're talking about modern equipment?
MBR is the M1A - that's right, the semi-auto version of the M14. Its more controllable, easier for R. Lee Ermy and his kind to enforce fire discipline with, and much more available and affordable.
Main Sniper weapon: Loads of Savage 110s or Remington 700's in .308 (to have ammo compatibility with the MBRs).
Specialty Sniper weapon: The same .50 caliber weapon being used in a sniper role in the Afghan mountains.
Machine gun: Ma-Deuce. Some things can't be improved upon.
Arty: the MLRS, loaded on Bradleys that are chock full of 25mm shells for that wonderful chaingun they mount.
Air support: a) Rotary wing - ain't nothing better than the Apache Longbow
b) Fixed wing - AC130 Spectre/Puff the Magic Dragon and A-10 Thunderbolt/Warthog. Loads and loads and loads of 30mm ammo for Mr. GAU-8.
AAA - Sorry, we're going to have to strip the Navy of all of its Phalanx gun systems. Rockets may be nice, but I like the idea of having lots of lead in the air. Besides, depress the guns and they can be used to shoot the Orcs if there's a breakthrough - try that with a Stinger.
Needless to say, boatloads of ammo for all weapons involved. Troops go to the field with all that they can carry.
The 36 hours of prep time in Minas Tirith would be spent sighting in weapons, cleaning and lubing them, loading mags and digging into fixed positions. I'd try to have a few ditches filled up with gasoline, so that the attack could be channeled more effectively. We'd also need to work on communications, so that any gaps would be plugged real quickly.
Even if all we brought was standard infantry weapons, I think that there'd be an absolute slaughter of the Orcs. Sheesh, even the Romans from "Gladiator" knew how to throw up a crapload of firepower - they'd have done better than the LOTR jerks did - and we have roughly 1800 years of additional technological improvements to help us out.
bogie
Member
Well, I don't know about the rest of y'all, but I think I've got enough ammo...
With the critters in that kind of massed group advance, I'd guess that a batch of improvised explosive devices could be very interesting. Likewise for small pits, etc...
I'd guess that against a force of 10,000 folks with medieval arms and strategy, 20-30 folks armed with scoped AR-15 rifles and a sizable amount of ammo could make one heckuva dent...
With the critters in that kind of massed group advance, I'd guess that a batch of improvised explosive devices could be very interesting. Likewise for small pits, etc...
I'd guess that against a force of 10,000 folks with medieval arms and strategy, 20-30 folks armed with scoped AR-15 rifles and a sizable amount of ammo could make one heckuva dent...
trickyasafox
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you guys are all into making this into to quick an ordeal. i'd bring my encore with a 223 and a bunch of ammo. you guys are all in a rush here! in all honesty my pops would probably bring his mathewson with a bunch of quivers for his fun
STG58 FAL, 7 mags, 300 rounds AR15 carbine, 11 mags, 750 rounds Yugo SKS, 400 rounds CZ75B, 5 mags, 600 rounds 1911A1, 9 mags, 150 rounds That's all I got that is battle ready. War kit, bottle of brown, large packet of jerky, and a few good cigars, I'm ready to go.
When do we leave again?
When do we leave again?
CleverName
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Bring your SKS's and Wolf's ammo too. Apparently we've got 36 hours to prepare, and thousands of untrained people. SKS would fit perfectly - pull the trigger 10 times, stripper clip, repeat. Easy to use, reliable as all get out, only one rifle to teach, etc. etc.
Give a scalpel to the "teenage Rambos" and tell them to load the artillery and run ammo - at gunpoint, if need be. Bring plenty of FM's too - I'm assuming we've got enough ammo for the artillery.
Personal weapons other than SKS/Mosins/the occasional AK clone should not be redistributed outside of THR - you know your gun better than some angry teenager who posts on SpaceBattles.
Although, I wonder if it wouldn't be more effective to just wage a guerilla campaign. We're not familiar with the terrain, but we've got better arms.
Give a scalpel to the "teenage Rambos" and tell them to load the artillery and run ammo - at gunpoint, if need be. Bring plenty of FM's too - I'm assuming we've got enough ammo for the artillery.
Personal weapons other than SKS/Mosins/the occasional AK clone should not be redistributed outside of THR - you know your gun better than some angry teenager who posts on SpaceBattles.
Although, I wonder if it wouldn't be more effective to just wage a guerilla campaign. We're not familiar with the terrain, but we've got better arms.
Genius, simple genius. Sounds like the planning for the best holiday ever, small nukes, stalin organs, B52's, tanks and good barbecue.
Strikes me that this would make an excellent template for the first THR international "Big Day Out".
Coming to a small latin american country near you!
Strikes me that this would make an excellent template for the first THR international "Big Day Out".
Coming to a small latin american country near you!
The heck with that.
I'd spend about an hour or two finding good firing positions for my M-60 tanks and the rest of the time - less about 8 hours for sleep before the big shindig - would be spent in taverns and brothels (I wonder if the brothels had any elf or half elf physical recreation workers?).
you are all forgetting your WW I history ! We would need something belt fed and watercooled ! The other thing we need is all the C&R loonie's to assemble with there rifles having volley sights on them ( two cookies to the person knowing what they are).
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Probably be a good idea to have a few members bring their .50 cals to take out the trolls, they seemed to be pretty thick skinned. Might be useful to take out the giant elephent things too. I'd bring my cowboy guns and a mauser with plenty of ammo for all. Probably bring a sword and dagger as well for close combat (yes, I know how to use them effectively).
Lawn Chair...check
Cooler...check
Montecristo #3's...check
Savage 10FP in .308, 100 hand rolled rounds, Osgiliath to 800 yards...check
SA M1A in .308, 800 rounds, 800 to 300 yards...check
RRA CAR-15A4 in .223, 600 rounds, 300 to zero yards...check
SKS, 500 rounds, for some poor rifle challenged kid...check
I ain't worried 'bout the trolls or the oliphaunts, y'all got enough hardware to take them down before they get within 300 yards, I'm just here for the varmints...
Farnham, the Orc Hammer, He Whose Bag is Packed, So Light the Torches!
Cooler...check
Montecristo #3's...check
Savage 10FP in .308, 100 hand rolled rounds, Osgiliath to 800 yards...check
SA M1A in .308, 800 rounds, 800 to 300 yards...check
RRA CAR-15A4 in .223, 600 rounds, 300 to zero yards...check
SKS, 500 rounds, for some poor rifle challenged kid...check
I ain't worried 'bout the trolls or the oliphaunts, y'all got enough hardware to take them down before they get within 300 yards, I'm just here for the varmints...
Farnham, the Orc Hammer, He Whose Bag is Packed, So Light the Torches!
I think with that amount of prep time and a good cause, we could talk Dillon into joining "our little group" with some of his neat toys...
I wonder how many rounds he has for his minigun.
Dibs on the quad-50!
I wonder how many rounds he has for his minigun.
Dibs on the quad-50!
SnakeEater
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2 words: Bangalor Torpedos. I once attended a class ran by the 5th Special Forces Group and I'll never forget the Bangalor Torpedos.
Johnnybgood
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I'm bringing
My Tokarev SVT 40 for some long range work, sks and ak47 should they get a little closer, ah what the heck I'll bring along my Turk mauser and lots of ammo for them all. Oh musn't forget the Weber to cook some tasty orc burgers.
My Tokarev SVT 40 for some long range work, sks and ak47 should they get a little closer, ah what the heck I'll bring along my Turk mauser and lots of ammo for them all. Oh musn't forget the Weber to cook some tasty orc burgers.
denfoote
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Nukes!!
Lot's of 'em!!
Make it fast.
Make it quick.
Orcs don't taste good anyway!!!
Gotta get back to base in time to drink beer and watch "Enterprise"!!!
Lot's of 'em!!
Make it fast.
Make it quick.
Orcs don't taste good anyway!!!
Gotta get back to base in time to drink beer and watch "Enterprise"!!!
geekWithA.45
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Astounding!
Text search reveals that this------->.50 bmg<---------is the first mention of .50 bmg.
Considering you'd be shooting at 6 story tall battle ouliphants, don't you think that might make sense?
Text search reveals that this------->.50 bmg<---------is the first mention of .50 bmg.
Considering you'd be shooting at 6 story tall battle ouliphants, don't you think that might make sense?
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