rdoggsilva
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My 4" revolver in 357 and either my Remington 700 30-06 or my m1917. With either of these rifles I can get one of those black plastic rifles and ammo.
SHTF...What guns would you take?
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My SHTF weapons are as follows...
Handgun: 1911 .45 ACP
I'd take my Kimber 5 incher. She's had work done to er, is accurate enough, and is reliable as sunrise.
Long gun: M4
I've used either a CAR-15 or an M-4 for almost 20 years now. They're accurate enough, light, very handy, and reliable when you give them the attention they deserve. The 77g BTHP IS an effective round.
I NEVER had the umption to own an M-4 UNTIL I lived in Florida. When the hurricanes would come through, people just lost their freaking minds. I learned then that I would like to having something with a little more endurance and range than a shotgun.
While there are plenty of good people that will come together and help one another in a crisis, there are also plenty of people that will try to use a crisis to take advantage of people, by force if necessary. The M-4 is there for the latter types...
Handgun: 1911 .45 ACP
I'd take my Kimber 5 incher. She's had work done to er, is accurate enough, and is reliable as sunrise.
Long gun: M4
I've used either a CAR-15 or an M-4 for almost 20 years now. They're accurate enough, light, very handy, and reliable when you give them the attention they deserve. The 77g BTHP IS an effective round.
I NEVER had the umption to own an M-4 UNTIL I lived in Florida. When the hurricanes would come through, people just lost their freaking minds. I learned then that I would like to having something with a little more endurance and range than a shotgun.
While there are plenty of good people that will come together and help one another in a crisis, there are also plenty of people that will try to use a crisis to take advantage of people, by force if necessary. The M-4 is there for the latter types...
If I bugged out to the woods.
I would drive as far as whatever fuel I have in my tank would take me, then walk the rest.
as for gear (not Including Ammo)
A Good Reliable Simi-Auto Pistol in a good holster with 2 mags in a carer and one loaded in it and 10-15 more packed & loaded.
A M1A or AR10 with a Good 10 power Scope, Bipod and about 10-15 full mags.
A Good 12 Gauge Simi-Auto, Probably a Beretta Xtrema2 with an extended mag and night sights.
A Good and Sharp KA-BAR knife with a good sharpening stone.
Freeze Dried Food, I would take as much of this and water as I could carry, as well as a portable water purifier.
A good supply of strike anywhere matches.
No idea if I would take a tent or anything like that, might take a collapsible fishing rod & reel & a little tackle & maybe a Compound bow & some arrows if I had room or could carry them strapped to my pack.
I would drive as far as whatever fuel I have in my tank would take me, then walk the rest.
as for gear (not Including Ammo)
A Good Reliable Simi-Auto Pistol in a good holster with 2 mags in a carer and one loaded in it and 10-15 more packed & loaded.
A M1A or AR10 with a Good 10 power Scope, Bipod and about 10-15 full mags.
A Good 12 Gauge Simi-Auto, Probably a Beretta Xtrema2 with an extended mag and night sights.
A Good and Sharp KA-BAR knife with a good sharpening stone.
Freeze Dried Food, I would take as much of this and water as I could carry, as well as a portable water purifier.
A good supply of strike anywhere matches.
No idea if I would take a tent or anything like that, might take a collapsible fishing rod & reel & a little tackle & maybe a Compound bow & some arrows if I had room or could carry them strapped to my pack.
JustJim said:
There will certainly be food shortages come this fall / winter. The midwest floods and storms took 2 million acres of corn off the market and 2 million acres of soybeans and who knows what else. Official estimates are not released quite yet...
Anyway, good luck. Buy now.
possum
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semi autos for me, my ar and either the 1911, or a glock 19.
SHTF plan so far is:
AR-15, Glock 22, and Smith 642 as a BUG. Kinda Rambo'ish ehh?
Seriously though, I would focus first on food and water supplies, then extra gasoline for the car, and then whatever room is left in the car would be for guns and ammo. I would imagine probably a long-gun and a handgun, a few extra mags full of ammo and maybe a single can of just ammo to put in the car if there is any room for it. If I can fit more I will take it. The primary focus will be on food, water, and medications (vitamins, antibiotics, etc.) though because fighting isn't going to do much good if I'm dying otherwise.
This is assuming I had to bug out. If I don't have to bug out, then obviously I have whatever I have here.
AR-15, Glock 22, and Smith 642 as a BUG. Kinda Rambo'ish ehh?
Seriously though, I would focus first on food and water supplies, then extra gasoline for the car, and then whatever room is left in the car would be for guns and ammo. I would imagine probably a long-gun and a handgun, a few extra mags full of ammo and maybe a single can of just ammo to put in the car if there is any room for it. If I can fit more I will take it. The primary focus will be on food, water, and medications (vitamins, antibiotics, etc.) though because fighting isn't going to do much good if I'm dying otherwise.
This is assuming I had to bug out. If I don't have to bug out, then obviously I have whatever I have here.
Horse - it needs x pounds of alfalfa and y gallons of water - Hey, a human being won't drop dead if it goes without food and water for a day or two, a Horse likely would not either. You can run light and fast for a few days, then take a day or two to camp, rest up, get the horse recovered. Hopefully you are only a few days away from your intended destination and the horse will still be salvageable when you get there. Otherwise, you eat the horse, ditch whatever you can't carry to the destination, and trek on. We're talking about survival, right? You don't push it that hard if you don't have to, but if lives are on the line and there is no choice, it's an option.
I'd like to see someone take an 80 lb pack up and down hill and avoid obstacles even on paved surface, and make 35 miles a day - even ONE day. That is LUDICROUS for everyone except the 1% that happen to be current enlisted Green Berets or rabid hikers. I took a hike thru Yosemite with some buddies of mine a couple years ago... we are average representatives of our age group (35 to 45), reasonably fit (read: not 400 lbs or in a wheel chair and can mow the lawn without getting winded). It took us 3 days to make 23 miles from trail head to trail head. Previous hiking/camping experience with a full pack (NOTE: no firearms or ammo!) leads me to believe this is par for the course walking in varied terrain, about 7 miles per day. I laugh out loud when someone mentions taking 1000 round of shotgun ammo with them. Weigh it sometime. Then put it in a pack on your back and walk a couple miles. Then add in all the other gear like a tent and water filter and any other basic gear you'd need to make it 20 miles from home on foot.
Now I'll answer the question: if solo, I would take .357 revolver and Timberwolf pump carbine. If in a group, semi-auto handgun and light semi-auto carbine (group standard on pistols and carbines preferably). The reason for the .357 combo is to cover the contingency of having one of the guns lost or disabled - all the ammo is still usable, you haven't wasted energy hauling ammo you now have to dump because the gun that used it, doesn't work anymore.
People sitting in front of an internet keyboard tend to forget that ammo is mostly LEAD and is heavy. I've always been disappointed that video games seemingly let you carry unlimited weapons and ammo without assessing you a weight/strength/speed penalty. That's just not realistic.
I'd like to see someone take an 80 lb pack up and down hill and avoid obstacles even on paved surface, and make 35 miles a day - even ONE day. That is LUDICROUS for everyone except the 1% that happen to be current enlisted Green Berets or rabid hikers. I took a hike thru Yosemite with some buddies of mine a couple years ago... we are average representatives of our age group (35 to 45), reasonably fit (read: not 400 lbs or in a wheel chair and can mow the lawn without getting winded). It took us 3 days to make 23 miles from trail head to trail head. Previous hiking/camping experience with a full pack (NOTE: no firearms or ammo!) leads me to believe this is par for the course walking in varied terrain, about 7 miles per day. I laugh out loud when someone mentions taking 1000 round of shotgun ammo with them. Weigh it sometime. Then put it in a pack on your back and walk a couple miles. Then add in all the other gear like a tent and water filter and any other basic gear you'd need to make it 20 miles from home on foot.
Now I'll answer the question: if solo, I would take .357 revolver and Timberwolf pump carbine. If in a group, semi-auto handgun and light semi-auto carbine (group standard on pistols and carbines preferably). The reason for the .357 combo is to cover the contingency of having one of the guns lost or disabled - all the ammo is still usable, you haven't wasted energy hauling ammo you now have to dump because the gun that used it, doesn't work anymore.
People sitting in front of an internet keyboard tend to forget that ammo is mostly LEAD and is heavy. I've always been disappointed that video games seemingly let you carry unlimited weapons and ammo without assessing you a weight/strength/speed penalty. That's just not realistic.
La Pistoletta
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Ammo commonality is a good point. Glock + Uzi?
For longer ranges, a rifle in 30-06 or .308. M14?
For longer ranges, a rifle in 30-06 or .308. M14?
kentucky_Dave
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bug out and heavy packs...YIKES!
That takes some serious and constant conditioning.
Strap just 35 to 50 pounds plus just one gallon of h20 on your back and go for a "brisk walk".
At least one mile as quickly as you can.
Don't let us know the result, but keep that experience for your own future use.
I have plans...but know this...PLANS CHANGE, and there is not much you can do to stop it.
With my luck...I'd be the old guy moving slowly down the road pulling the minimal supplies in the little red wagon, 2 grumpy kids telling me all about how bad it sucks, and the wife in uncomfortable shoes chiming in too...lol
That takes some serious and constant conditioning.
Strap just 35 to 50 pounds plus just one gallon of h20 on your back and go for a "brisk walk".
At least one mile as quickly as you can.
Don't let us know the result, but keep that experience for your own future use.
I have plans...but know this...PLANS CHANGE, and there is not much you can do to stop it.
With my luck...I'd be the old guy moving slowly down the road pulling the minimal supplies in the little red wagon, 2 grumpy kids telling me all about how bad it sucks, and the wife in uncomfortable shoes chiming in too...lol
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