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Sig P365XL

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by <*(((><, May 21, 2019.

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  1. tarosean

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    I really wonder about the scenarios people conjure up... Do all their optics mounted rifles/shotguns/hanguns have backup irons?
    I own 2 RDS equipped pistols neither have backup irons :what:
     
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    I'm not worried about such things either, at SD distances one should train to point shoot.

    It looks like the Sig Romeozero RDS has a backup iron built-in. However, the body AND lens is polymer, think I'll pass on that one.

    sig-romeo-zero.jpg
     
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    Watch the video already, jeez. Especially, starting at offset 06:21 where he says, "So the key element... really the single biggest thing that you have to realize is that the iron sights are still critically important on a handgun with a red dot optic."
    https://www.full30.com/watch/MDA0NjU5/todays-new-tech-red-dot-handguns
     
  4. tarosean

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    What do you think the chances are that Ian shoots far more irons than RDS's? Since he hasn't vested a majority of his time on a RDS system. he will not mount properly a lot. Thats the thing, there is no in-between with RDS's either commit or dont bother.
     
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    Then you make this one, with the romeo sights, as your nightstand gun with the regular 365 for carry
     
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    My sentiments exactly...
     
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    It's still thin, and much smaller overall than my optics ready XDm.
     
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    If you don't know how to shoot, hanging more crap on your handguns not going to help. For heaven sake's people just look down the barrel and shoot. It's a pistol. Lol.
     
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    I always liked the idea of the G26 if it could have been thinner.

    I view it as a thinner G26 with longer sight radius and better capacity, while being smaller and thinner than a G19, but wider than single stack 9’s. The spreadsheet I put together when I was comparing it made the choice for me. ON PAPER it seems like the CCW pistol that I’ve been waiting for. It may not be for everyone but for me:

    1. I view the G26 as too wide
    2. The G19 little too long in the grip and too wide
    3. Single stack 9’s are too narrow for my liking.

    This seems like it fits in the middle and I may be alone in my thinking and that’s ok but it seems a very good balance between a fighting pistol and a small CCW pistol.

    The thinness bit not too thin while giving good capacity and slide length is a big appeal to me on paper. Maybe I’ll not like it as I’ve not even shot a P365, but handling a P365 in the store felt it was just a bit too small for my everyday carry piece. But most the accounts of owners on the internet seem to think it’s a really nice shooter. I hope that is true of the P365XL.
     
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    Said the young man who can still see. :)
     
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    After handling a P-365 in the store I felt like the grip was a hair too short, and was glad they made an extended 12 round mag, but after shooting it discovered I shot the 10 round mag just as well. I carry it with the 10 round mag, and I don't even always have the 12 rounder with me, but when I do, it's the backup.

    Thin but not too thin. This is it for me as well. I had a 9MM Shield and liked it, but the very slim for the front to back width made it want to turn/twist in my hand when pulling the trigger/firing it. I really had to concentrate to stop this. I shot it well, but with more mental effort than the P-365. The P-365 is a breeze to shoot well. Front sight squeeze. That's it.

    I'll be shocked if I change my mind and do not buy a P-365 XL, with the red dot of course. No need for it (For me) without the red dot. :)

    Oh, and I hope the Romeo Zero has a large dot, as they are so much faster.
     
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    So that's it? You either "know how to shoot" or you don't? Are there any gradations in performance level? Do competent shooters - those who already know how to shoot - ever get any benefit from equipment changes?
     
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    Your experiences mirror mine with the Shield the pointedish thin backstrap seemed to want to move around in my hand. Liked the Shield, very well built and balanced just didn’t fit for me. Went to my CZ PCR which I love but would like to shave some weight off it for summertime carry, hence looking for a polymer striker option that isn’t too thick but not as thin as the majority of the single stacks out there.

    I get why people are confused as to why someone would be excited about this, and understand the comments. But for me it seems to be the carry piece I’ve been waiting for. I have a feeling other manufacturers will come out with similar offerings once they figure out the design of the Sig magazine for their platforms.

    Glock will have to ditch the polymer casing on their magazines and replace the mag release to compete at that capacity and thickness I think. Other manufacturers should have an easier time with such an endeavor.
     
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    I know it is not the same - but I opted for the G-42 That is about as big a pistol as anyone would want to put in their pocket - my preferred carry. Utterly reliable.
     
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    So they haven't addressed the issues in 4 versions of the 365, ....so now beta test the new one for us?!?!
     
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    Um, what issues remain that haven't been addressed?

    [I own only two P-365s, neither has any issues, so I am a little perplexed by this statement]
     
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    I’m under the impression that after the June 2018 build dates it seems the reports are that Sig rectified any previous issues. Do you know of any issues that new builds are having? Or just parroting previous issues?

    Are yours after the fixes? I haven’t heard any issues with the new ones rolling out.
     
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    From personal experience and everything I hear, all issues have been resolved.
     
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    I have no idea what "4 versions" you are talking about, and by all accounts they have addressed the early striker issue, but I beta tested an early P-365 and it is still running fine after a great many rounds. Simply no failures to feed, fire, or eject, after well over 2K rounds, and counting.

    I'll be happy to beta test a P-365 XL as well, despite some early P-365s having issues.

    I beta tested an early (3 digit serial number) EMP in 9MM as well, had to send it to SA and they fixed it (Rough firing pin channel, under SAMMI minimum chamber, shot high - New slide, new front sight, reamed chamber). A simply awesome pistol that my younger son now has.
     
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    Although nothing wrong with it the original P365 didn't appeal to me. I have large hands. The P365XL is interesting though.

    The Sig P365's are trendy right now. Perhaps justifiably so. Looking forward to some reviews on the P365XL.
     
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    I bought my P365 just to test one myself after reading a bunch of extreme internet opinions.
     
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    I think I will pass as well.
     
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    I don't mean this in a negative way but the P365 strikes me as a pocked pistol and the P365XL a holster pistol.
     
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    Personally do not see any of the Micro 9mm's as pocket pistols. I can understand why Sig fans would like to have the new XL as a second holster gun, just like I am thinking of the Kahr S9 or ST9. Certainly not as a Pocket gun. (Don't like revolvers in pocket as well,)
     
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    About the only gun size that I really consider doable for pocket carry is the LCP sized gun. Anything much bigger than that and it’s difficult to get in and out in a lot of pockets.

    I’m compromising when I put my IWB weapon back for my LCP, but certain events call for that.
     
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