Sig Sauer as a duty pistol?

[DoubleMag]

So I'm going into law enforcement in fall of 2013, right now I'm taking the Pre-Requisites. I was talking to one of the instructors about gear (Holsters Belts etc.) and naturally we got to service pistols. I asked him what he recommended, "Glock in a .40" was his answer.

And his answer to most other trainees is, same.

Now here's something you haven't thought of just yet.Is this purchase your duty weapon or is that dep't issue in that case it's a moot point. I would buy a pistol that everyone else has on the dep't. Answer a call and the perp has a rifle you go through 3 mags QUICK. You're out of rounds and one car over a buddie can toss you a fresh mag. Don't be a Lone Ranger with a pistol no one else has, fumbling loading one bullet at a time under stress of fire!

Gives a new perspective to ''emergency reload'' doesn't it?

 

[CoyoteSix]

Very good point Double Mag, actually hadn't thought about that yet. I guess I'll have to see what Dept. I'm likely to join carries!

Thoughts of the Hollywood bank robbery (1992?) come to mind.

 

[9mmepiphany]

While I understand the reasoning, that wasn't the general feeling in my post-academy field training. The general consensus was that most officers would be reluctant to share extra magazines with officers who had expended all their rounds without effect.

In plain speech, that means. "You shoot all yours like a machine gun and you expect me to give you some of mine to use the same way...think again."

I always carried non-standard pistols during my career...they make exceptions for officers who are older than dirt...and always carried extra loaded mags, for my gun, in my duty/gear bag

 

[dcarch]

A local PD here issues the 229. They seem to like it just fine.

 

[claiborne]

US Park Rangers, Special Agents and US Park Police cary Sig Sauer P220, P226 or P229.

 

[allaroundhunter]

US Park Rangers, Special Agents and US Park Police cary Sig Sauer P220, P226 or P229.

And the secret service carries the P229 in .357 Sig, IIRC.

^That might have already been said, if it has I apologize, my memory isn't great and I am just too lazy to read through 3 pages of this stuff again

 

[CoyoteSix]

Thanks for all the help folks! I think I'll wait and save money and see what the first Dept. I can get onto will issue.

I think I'll just buy a 22/45 and work on my pistol fundamentals for now

 

[Teachu2]

Thanks for all the help folks! I think I'll wait and save money and see what the first Dept. I can get onto will issue.

I think I'll just buy a 22/45 and work on my pistol fundamentals for now

Good plan!

 

[Rexster]

And his answer to most other trainees is, same.

Now here's something you haven't thought of just yet.Is this purchase your duty weapon or is that dep't issue in that case it's a moot point. I would buy a pistol that everyone else has on the dep't. Answer a call and the perp has a rifle you go through 3 mags QUICK. You're out of rounds and one car over a buddie can toss you a fresh mag. Don't be a Lone Ranger with a pistol no one else has, fumbling loading one bullet at a time under stress of fire!

Gives a new perspective to ''emergency reload'' doesn't it?

This sounds good, in theory, but reality indicates otherwise, in US domestic law enforcement. Some officers may have indeed sprayed all of their rounds all over the landscape, but accounts of their colleagues sharing loaded magazines with such folks are somewhere between extremely rare and unknown.

 

[Ehtereon11B]

I would much rather use a SIG as a duty gun if I were able. I think I am severely allergic to Glocks. I have more issues with Glock than all other weapons I have shot combined, so their "ironclad" reliability is a moot point to me. Thankfully my department allows me to modify my issue Glock to replace pet peeve areas. Better magazine release, better recoil spring, better sights.

My first choice for a SIG replacement would be the P2022 in either .40 or .357 SIG.

 

[Dr_B]

Lots of good guns recommended here. But having owned many handguns, knowing plenty of local law enforcement and what they carry, and even helping one of them learn to shoot his Sig 226 .40, I think the most important thing is trigger time. Getting a gun that is just like the one you may be issued is secondary. Learning to shoot a handgun well is primary. Probably stay away from 1911's because (I noticed you're in Idaho) not a lot of agencies up here issue those, if any. Double-stack .40 or .45 ACP, and perhaps 9mm's are the way to go. Any one of a variety of pistols will probably be fine.

 

[Walking Dead]

Can't go wrong with a Sig that's for sure. My SP2022 runs like a top. And now that there are plenty of holsters around they are a great carry or duty option for a guy who wants a hammer fired poly gun.

 

[silversport]

While I understand the reasoning, that wasn't the general feeling in my post-academy field training. The general consensus was that most officers would be reluctant to share extra magazines with officers who had expended all their rounds without effect.

In plain speech, that means. "You shoot all yours like a machine gun and you expect me to give you some of mine to use the same way...think again."

I always carried non-standard pistols during my career...they make exceptions for officers who are older than dirt...and always carried extra loaded mags, for my gun, in my duty/gear bag

+1...you missed with all you're carrying and now you want to use mine???...why...to miss some more.?...

Bill

 

[PabloJ]

I would take Glock in .40. The G27 can be used as backup and standard length magazines can be used for reloads. Quality Sigs are expensive and only outfits like the US Navy can afford them. We all know taxpayer pockets are bottomless.

 

[sappyg]

Quote: Walking Dead
"Can't go wrong with a Sig that's for sure. My SP2022 runs like a top. And now that there are plenty of holsters around they are a great carry or duty option for a guy who wants a hammer fired poly gun."

can you point me in the direction of these holsters? I've only found one Blackhawk and one DIY holster supplier for this gun so far.

Quote: Pablo
"I would take Glock in .40. The G27 can be used as backup and standard length magazines can be used for reloads. Quality Sigs are expensive and only outfits like the US Navy can afford them."

meh... the Sig SP2022 is all Sig that I can tell and a good bit cheaper than the Glock. However, Mags are a bit more expensive. About $40 a pop compared to less than $30 for a Glock.

 

[ritepath]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIG_Sauer_P226#P229

Maybe an accurate list of LE and Military that use sigs.

 

[ritepath]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_State_Police

I know the Va state police also carry the 229.

 

[9mmepiphany]

Quote: Walking Dead
"Can't go wrong with a Sig that's for sure. My SP2022 runs like a top. And now that there are plenty of holsters around they are a great carry or duty option for a guy who wants a hammer fired poly gun."

can you point me in the direction of these holsters? I've only found one Blackhawk and one DIY holster supplier for this gun so far.

Here are 22 different Safariland ones from one merchant and 40 from another

Quote: Pablo
"I would take Glock in .40. The G27 can be used as backup and standard length magazines can be used for reloads. Quality Sigs are expensive and only outfits like the US Navy can afford them."

meh... the Sig SP2022 is all Sig that I can tell and a good bit cheaper than the Glock. However, Mags are a bit more expensive. About $40 a pop compared to less than $30 for a Glock.

I think a lot of folks can afford $399 for a duty gun...and I saw one over the Black Friday period for $349

 

[Walking Dead]

Try "Old Faithful Holsters" and "Triple K Holsters" too.

 

[sappyg]

Some great links... Thanks guys. Sig's price point on the 2022 sure does make it a strong option for a duty pistol. The only thing that would be better would be a poly 239.... for a back up of course