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Yep. Don't want to let the locals know they're getting the inferior stuff.
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mgmorden
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I wonder if they did the same with the Afghan police
(IIRC, we purchased S&W Sigmas to equip them with - guess the budget wasn't as high ).
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USAF OSI carries the M11 (P228) and USAF PJ's use M9, M11, and 1911.
Herk that looks like a Remington MCS.... which is also used by USAF PJ's.
Last time i was in a PJ Armory i nearly wet my pants.
Herk that looks like a Remington MCS.... which is also used by USAF PJ's.
Last time i was in a PJ Armory i nearly wet my pants.
There are no Reserve Army SF units and haven't been any since 11th & 12th Reserve Groups went away back in the early 90's (Clinton Era Draw-down). We do have two Army National Guard Special Forces Groups (19th & 20th) who have been doing yeoman duty in combat since late 1991...
The shorty shotgun in the picture is a can-opener...a door breaching tool. That's why the wearer is sporting a weapons catch on the right hip of his CIRAS. His primary is an M4A1.
US Army Special Forces are issued M9 Berettas by MTOE (one per man), but...
M11s (SIG 228) are also found on the MTOE of Army SF elements, Army CID units, and in the holsters of MOS Army Counter-Intel Agents. There are only a few M11s in each SF battalion.
M1911s (both commercially procured & issued/modified M1911A1s) continue to be used in fairly sizable numbers in some SF Groups. Normally, if you see one, the entire team is carrying the same thing.
Glock 19s (and the occasional 17) are the second most commonly encountered Army Special Forces handgun (after M9s) when deployed downrange. We bought bazillions of them for indigenous troops & police we were training...and simply appropriated a large number of them. Certain elements have also managed since to semi-permanently acquire their own (MTOE Substitute Standard) since everyone likes 'em anyway.
I've only seen two MK23s in the light of day when downrange. Neither of them were carried by anyone who was a team member. They stay in the arms room as curiosities. Most of the SEAL Platoons & TUs I've worked with simply carry 226s.
Makarovs were also very popular as SF BUGs when I was in Afghanistan. Available for free...so why not?
The shorty shotgun in the picture is a can-opener...a door breaching tool. That's why the wearer is sporting a weapons catch on the right hip of his CIRAS. His primary is an M4A1.
US Army Special Forces are issued M9 Berettas by MTOE (one per man), but...
M11s (SIG 228) are also found on the MTOE of Army SF elements, Army CID units, and in the holsters of MOS Army Counter-Intel Agents. There are only a few M11s in each SF battalion.
M1911s (both commercially procured & issued/modified M1911A1s) continue to be used in fairly sizable numbers in some SF Groups. Normally, if you see one, the entire team is carrying the same thing.
Glock 19s (and the occasional 17) are the second most commonly encountered Army Special Forces handgun (after M9s) when deployed downrange. We bought bazillions of them for indigenous troops & police we were training...and simply appropriated a large number of them. Certain elements have also managed since to semi-permanently acquire their own (MTOE Substitute Standard) since everyone likes 'em anyway.
I've only seen two MK23s in the light of day when downrange. Neither of them were carried by anyone who was a team member. They stay in the arms room as curiosities. Most of the SEAL Platoons & TUs I've worked with simply carry 226s.
Makarovs were also very popular as SF BUGs when I was in Afghanistan. Available for free...so why not?
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jaysouth
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Chindo 18Z (wonder if many posters know what the 18Z stands for?)
Without violating any Opsec, where do you thing the photos of the team in the snow were taken?
Just curious if somewhere in the stan or Europe?
I have heard of a special store called "downrange" where selected members can get good deals on goodies duty free. A family member brought me a buttload of mags and a high speed pair of sunglasses that he said came from "downrange" Wonder if there is one around here anywhere.
Without violating any Opsec, where do you thing the photos of the team in the snow were taken?
Just curious if somewhere in the stan or Europe?
I have heard of a special store called "downrange" where selected members can get good deals on goodies duty free. A family member brought me a buttload of mags and a high speed pair of sunglasses that he said came from "downrange" Wonder if there is one around here anywhere.
jaysouth
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Chindo18Z,
Man you need to use deodorant or brush your teeth or something. After your last appearance, everybody ran for cover.
My family member is going downrange again next month. I will give him a shopping list this time. Maybe he can get another good deal on a pair of Oakleys. Maybe some more glock 19 or Power-mags.
Us old timers sleep well when you guys are prowling in the dark. Thanks.
Man you need to use deodorant or brush your teeth or something. After your last appearance, everybody ran for cover.
My family member is going downrange again next month. I will give him a shopping list this time. Maybe he can get another good deal on a pair of Oakleys. Maybe some more glock 19 or Power-mags.
Us old timers sleep well when you guys are prowling in the dark. Thanks.
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