Sig Sauer. Is it worth the $$

[Coronach]

It always comes down to just one thing:

Do you shoot it well?

If yes, you should buy it. If not, you should buy something else.

Thousands of threads asking "which gun?" and very few of them with any indication of which one the OP shoots better in the first post. There is probably a reason for this: if the OP knows which gun he shoots better, there's almost no reason to ask the ubiquitous "which gun?" question. The answer is obvious. Rarely, we get a question of "which gun? I shoot both equally well." Then we can talk about the other merits of the gun.

Sure, we could give all of the recommendations in the world, but we're not you. If the consensus is that Sig is a great gun, you spend several hundred dollars and get one, and decide that you don't like the way it shoots, what have you learned?

MORAL: Go shoot one. A lot. Rent a gun and buy several boxes of ammo. Do it several times. Then you will KNOW if Sig is worth the extra $$$.

Mike

 

[IndianaBoy]

My constant companion.

 

[gtmtnbiker98]

I agree with many, Sig of recent isn't the Sig of the mid to late 90s. Once they stopped making the stamped steel slides and went to all stainless, the quality and reliability has dropped. Stainless aside, their QC has bottomed out, it is hard to get a new in box Sig without a blemish here or there. Four of the last five Sigs I've purchased has not been blemish free but I didn't sweat over it, they are not safe queens - they are shooters. But on the same token, when spending in upwards of $900.00 for a pistol, one should expect to receive a blemish free, perfect looking pistol. That simply isn't the case anymore.

Things got so bad with the P220s that they switched from the internal extractor to an external due to reliability issues. That should tell you something, how many P220s were produced in the mean time that were defective and are still defective?

 

[Water-Man]

Don't waste your money. Buy XD or Glock.

 

[Old Dog]

Wow, two pages and quite a few posts before the obligatory "Buy a Glock" remark popped up (at least this guy included the XD, though).

Apples to oranges anyway. For many of us, there's a big difference between a polymer-framed, striker-fired pistol and a steel or alloy framed hammer-fired pistol.

From my experience (over thirty years of carrying/shooting weapons professionally and as a private citizen/hunter), I will never compromise on quality again. Buy the best firearms you can afford. Personally, I'll go a month eating only rice and beans to scrape up that extra couple hundred bucks to get a better quality firearm, especially if it's to be used for self-defense or I want it to last a lifetime.

SIG-Sauer pistols are worth the money, IMO. But if it's your money, it's your choice. And to echo others, the CPOs are probably one of the best deals going on firearms, period.

 

[rellascout]

SIG-Sauer pistols are worth the money, IMO. But if it's your money, it's your choice. And to echo others, the CPOs are probably one of the best deals going on firearms, period.

Have you bought one in the last 6 month?

 

[Thernlund]

Don't waste your money. Buy XD or Glock.

BLASPHEMERRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!

Have you bought one in the last 6 month?

Yes. So?


-T.

 

[thegoodfight]

get a glock

 

[phantomak47]

Sig is worth the price, but I really started liking my XD-45, maybe even more than my P226...........

 

[rellascout]

Yes. So?

More and more CPOs are simply problem guns or parts guns from stuff left over. In the last 6 months I have seen more reports of CPOs going back to Sig for repair since the finishes were flaking off.

If you know the insides and outsides of the new CPO program it becomes clear that these are no longer take back guns but instead are problem guns being put back out into the market place. There was a time when all CPOs were trade in guns but this is no longer the case.

Look at the CPO P228s. They are mix masters. I had P220 SAS DAK. These were never sold as duty weapons. It went back for extractor problems.

I would take a verified used gun from a good source or fellow member over a CPO these days.

 

[Thernlund]

More and more CPOs are simply problem guns or parts guns from stuff left over.

Mm. Hadn't heard that.


-T.

 

[Golddog]

CZ's have better triggers and better ergonomics for hundreds of dollars less.

I just don't get the Sig attraction.

 

[MadMercS55]

I've run across the parts bin CPO's at a couple local shops. One indication is the slide having an oval indentation on it, sometimes near the Sig Sauer logo or on the ejection port side. They removed the serial # or other such markings and mated the slide of say a 94 P226 to the frame of a current gen pistol to make a usable pistol. The price was right but I checked a few sources including a call to SIG and all confirmed the weapons were indeed a mix and match of different generation parts. I wouldn't buy one of them, but I've heard that the mixed P226 and P228's do work nicely. On a different note, if you like polymer and SIG, go for the SP2022, best of both worlds and mine is awesome.

 

[CWL]

I have a SIG P229 in .40SW

Paid $350 for it.

Well made and absolutely accurate.

Grip is too big for my hands. Trigger pull is too long for me. Don't like to shoot DA.

Bore axis is too high for what I am accustomed to (compared to M1911s and P7M8).

I dropped a .357SIG barrel into mine and now I don't shoot .40SW anymore.

Now tell me what my experiences with my P229 has to do with you?

Coronach is right. Only buy it if it feels and shoots well for you...AND if you can afford it.

 

[BlindJustice]

Sig Sauer has a great web site - I had noticed the C.P.O.Sig Pistols
icon on the Pistols main page but hadn't gone to the trouble of reading
what this Certification means.

http://www.sigsauer.com/Products/ShowCatalogProductDetails.aspx?categoryid=55&productid=201

SOunds like the factory takes care in keeping up their high standard
for thier product with the LEO trade-ins.

ALso FWIW - SIg has added their version of the 1911 recently - and reading about everytthing they put into thier 1911s, no investment cast
internal parts etc. for the price they compare very well to S&W
and others in that middle range of 1911s.

I am pretty much sold on a P239 in 9MMx19 for a CCW option
for the next handgun purchase.

R-

 

[Omaha-BeenGlockin]

Get the Glock.

Simply a better gun for less money. More durable and reliable.

I've owned 3 Sigs and that all came up lacking in one way or another--the last one I had was problem free---just too heavy. And yes the quality has gone down since they stopped making stamped slides.

 

[RobNDenver]

Otis,

Buy the P229. You will find that it is soon your all time favorite. It is so accurate, and its recoil so manageable that you will really appreciate this pistol. I put CT Laser sights on it, and my wife and I both think it is the best gun in our collection. . .

I bought mine for about $600 from a dealer near me- 5280 Armory in Arvada. Came with a blue case, extra magazine and of course a trigger lock. . .

 

[BlindJustice]

Noow after going back and reading page 2, after commenting
after page 2 about some CPOs being mis-matched I'll
go with NEW, and not a roll of the dice.

but No. 1 I need to get up to SPokane and go to Sharpshooters Target
range, they advertise they have over 70 handguns for rentals.
They gotta at least have a Sig or two.

Question about Sig Triggers, would the Sig 220, 226/229 & 239
be similiar in DA/SA travel/pull?

Randall

 

[FranklyTodd]

I am pretty much sold on a P239 in 9MMx19 for a CCW option
for the next handgun purchase.

+1 Can't wait to get mine back from Sig, and hopefully it will feed hollowpoints! It is a great shooter. Can't say how it carries yet, had to send it back while my purchased holster was in transit...

 

[kcshooter]

Get the Glock.

Simply a better gun for less money.

I don't know anyone who has actually owned both guns that would share this opinion.

Was this sarcasm?

 

[yhtomit]

Maybe this is just me avoiding cognitive dissonance ...

But I'll echo at least one of the posts above, in that there are guns that are to my mind just as good which cost quite a bit less. I've heard (and now it's in my head, must admit to repeating) that a Cz is "a poor man's Sig." And frankly (setting aside resale or collector value, thinking only of what I'd rather have on hand to fire), if you offered me a brand new Cz-75 or a current-model similar-sized Sig, I suspect I'd take the Cz -- esp. if it's in Stainless

The times (just a few) when I've fired a Sig, it's not that I didn't enjoy it (I did!) and it's not that it wasn't reliable (no problems), it's just that the sigs I've fired (I think all model 226) have felt slightly bland and lifeless in the hand -- which is to say, my hand. Hand geometries and preferences vary, of course.

And so far, I've been luckier than evidently some have -- which is to say, lucky enough not to have as much time or money for ammo as I'd like! -- and had no problems with my Ruger P345, the feel of which beats the Sigs I have actually fired, to me.

I've been tempted by the bargain Sigs at Gander Mountain, and I suspect that I could learn to love them more than I do now, but the ergonomics of my Cz have led me to growing certainty that a Tanfoglio / EAA Witness is in my near future -- I could get that *and* a Ruger LCP (for instance) for about what I'd pay for certain models of Sig.

YMMV, but that's my thinking

timothy

 

[thatguy123]

I don't know anyone who has actually owned both guns that would share this opinion.

Was this sarcasm?

I own both, and perfer the Sig by a large margin. Although I do sip Glock Kool-Aid, I think no one builds a more reliable gun, but my Sig has given me no reason to doubt it's reliability either.

 

[BlindJustice]

For the record, I've yet to shoot a Sig, I do have the following
so I have something to compare a SIg against,
S&W 1911 full size .45 ACP
CZ 75B - 9MM Luger
I got the 75B for the follwing features.
* DA/SA with the thumb safety like a 1911
that gives a Cond. ONe carry option.
* All steel for soaking up recoil
* rep. for reliability & accuracy has proven true
* and it's slide rails inside the frame which is like
the famed for it's accuracy the Sig P210 I also
like because it makes the slide smaller as a side feature.
But they're both a bit heavy for an all day CCW so the
single stack SIg P239 8 shot with an optional 10 shot mag
with the plastic extension around the mag that extends the
grip is appealing.

ANd yes I have shot my shooting Buddy's Glock G19 - once
when it was the first day at the range and also last saturday after
he changed the spring and followed some online video to drop the
trigger pull, but even he admits it's mushy. He liked my CZ for
the weight with slow aimed fire as well as the sights are way better.
I don't like the grip angle, and the mag release sucked I had to look
down to figure out it isn't a round button, wth? but the show stopper
was the PLASTIC magazines A Big Dog chew toys don't belong in guns.
\
Randall

 

[ZeSpectre]

I think the current price for a new SIG P229 is getting out of hand but if you can find one for $650 or less then by all means give it a try.
I had an XD-40 that I liked a lot...until I got my SIG and then the XD just started gathering dust until I sold it to a friend.

Still it's really what gun works for YOU. Either would certainly do the job.

 

[basicblur]

I’ve got a P229R (357 SIG/$650 NIB), XD40SC, and USPC 40.
Can tell little/no difference in any of ‘em AFA accuracy, function, etc, though I think the USPC40 is the softest shooter of the bunch. I also like the civilian carry options of the USPC in Variant 1 (round in chamber, decocked, safety on).

Unless you have some compelling reason to buy the SIG over the XD (fits your hand, like a decocker, etc) I see no reason to pay extra for the SIG over the XD.
‘Course, I’m a pragmatist!