Sigs

[geneedge]

P245

I will once I shoot it. I wish I could post a picture of it on here, but I haven't been able to figure out how. Oh well.

 

[Headless]

Hello Guys - I'm not a member... but one of my brother's good friends had a 229 and a 239 for several years - before I met him, he had to sell them off. I've always been intrigued with SIG's and went and took a look at them at the local gun store the other day with the intent of getting a compact .40...i left without one, and I have a few questions and the dolts at the gun store are hopeless. Glad to see this thread - I expect you guys are the perfect source for info

The long throw "swing-action" feeling de-cocker next to the mag release kind of threw me off a bit, especially in how little resistence there was when de-cocking (my other guns require a solid 'snap' to de-cock, but the entire movement range of the SIG de-cocker was buttery smooth with hardly any feel of a 'break' when the hammer de-cocked.... and though I think that I could get used to it, ALL of my other semi's have a 'high' mounted on the slide, thumb decocker/safety (S&W 659, Beretta mod 96 are two examples). I'm a bit worried i'd reach for the decocker on one of my other guns and hit the mag release instead, if i trained with the SIG alot. I noticed in skimming the thread that an awful lot of you guys own a ton of SIG's and in some cases nothing but - is that the reason why? Is there any model of SIG that has a decocker mounted to the slide/frame more akin to the other manufacturers decocker?

The other thing that bothered me was that when the gun is just sitting there ready to go, the hammer is partially cocked?? And while partially cocked, there is no bar to block the hammer from the firing pin. All of the other semiauto handguns I've handled have had safeties that either blocked the firing pin or rotated the firing pin/transfer dealio so that the hammer could fall on it without impacting the pin. The 1911's i've held had a manual safety'bar' that held the hammer locked open when cocked... In fact, both my beretta and s&w 659 de-cock AND safety by blocking the firing pin from the hammer. I have two questions about the SIG method - (1) what stops the hammer from falling out of the partial-decock state, and why does sig do it like that? The trigger felt 'spongey' to me because the detent that holds the hammer had a bit of a 'spring' or 'give' to it...it really made the trigger feel weird. and (2), with the hammer half cocked, it appears that anything could fall into the gun between the hammer and the firing pin. Pocket lint, tooth picks, change, etc. There was a good 1/4" gap constantly visible on the ones i checked out in person. Are there any SIG models that do not always have the hammer half-cocked like that as the 'safety'?

 

[Chem Geek]

If you get a bunch of Sigs, you'll have to get used to them, and that may affect your performance with other styles, that's just something you'll either have to accept, or train to get around.

I don't know about the other guys, but I know for myself I'll probably stick mostly with Sigs. I don't think the Sigs are the be all end all, and I do shoot other make/models whenever given the chance, but I always find myself going back to my Sig and enjoying it the most. So I'll be getting more Sigs are they're the best for me.

First off, once you decock a Sig, it's not partially cocked. The small gap is just the normal resting state.

1) All the DA/SA, DAO, DAK Sigs have automatic firing pin blocks (not sure what the SAO have), that can only be disengaged by the trigger. Try this, when the Sig is decocked try to push the hammer till it hits the firing pin. It won't go far enough. With the PISTOL EMPTY, cock it, pull the trigger to decock it and hold the trigger down. Notice how the hammer goes all the way forward to the firing pin. Let go of the trigger, let go of the hammer, and you'll hear a click as it reengages the safety.

2) I don't see how change could possible fall in there, although I suppose pocket lint or toothpicks could. Though I wonder if either of those could stop it from firing. I guess my solution would be, don't carry it in your pocket? It's a little large for that it seems to me. From what I've seen the DAK models have the hammer recessed into the slide a bit more which could help.

 

[1BLINDREF]

+1 Chem Geek-
Well said.
To add, if you take the slide off, you'll see the firing pin block. If you lay the slide on a table upside down, you can push the firing pin block in (round peg looking thing near the back of the slide). While holding it in, use a pen or a toothpick and push the back of the firing pin. You'll see the firing pin pop out of the hole where it makes contact with the primer. Try pushing the firing pin without depressing the firing pin block and you'll see it won't pop out.

 

[kerank]

count me in...

Count me in to the SIG club...head first. I just picked up the gun I've been drueling over for the past couple of months (SIG P239 SAS in 9mm). I've found the 239 to be my favorite pistol, and now I've got a "pretty" one to show off! It's better looking in person. I can 't wait to get to the range with it. This is my first DAK.

 

[Chem Geek]

That's the same one I've been drooling over at my local range! It certainly doesn't help that my fiance wants a Sig that fits her hands (they're tiny!!).

 

[1BLINDREF]

kerank-
Congrats on a great gun and welcome the The Club
I bought a P239 SAS 9mm about 2 weeks ago. Great gun that handles really well. If you don't like the DAK trigger first time out, don't give up on it. IMHO its the best DAO trigger out there. I now have 3 Sigs with the DAK trigger (also have a P229 .40S&W and a P220 Carry SAS) and shoot them almost exclusively.
Give us a range report - have fun!

 

[magripa]

I have 210 and 226. I would say that P210 is one of the finest pistols ever created.

 

[D-Man]

I was able to shoot my P226ST (9MM) for the first time today, and I enjoyed every minute of it. The thing is smooth, and the weight does a great job in soaking up recoil. I can't wait to get it to an indoor range so I can see how good I can shoot at shorter distances.

Afterwards I shot a few mags though my P228, and at first you could really notice the stiffer recoil. The P226ST might spoil me!

 

[Lonestar49]

Countdown

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7 Days to go, then I pick up my NIB Sig P220R..


Nill's Sig P220R wood handgrips to be ordered Monday, OR?? any other thoughts on thin wood grips out there and even darker than what I could see at the Nill's wood grip site?


LS

 

[Spiff_P239]

I've owned a couple of Sigs in the past (P226, P229, a couple P239s, and a P232SL) but at the moment I only have the P226 NSW serial numbered Navy. That is about to change since I ordered a P229 Elite last month. The P226 was my first pistol but I'll be giving that to my brother when he returns from overseas deployment (yep, he's Navy).

 

[1BLINDREF]

The P226 was my first pistol but I'll be giving that to my brother when he returns from overseas deployment (yep, he's Navy).

Thats a great gift I hope he returns soon.

lonestar-
Take a look at Hogues website. They have lots of options in wood grips. I think they are about as thick as the Nills. Here is a link right to the P220 grips.

http://www.hogueinc.com/getgrip/merchant.ihtml?id=42&step=2

D-man-
I'm glad you are happy with your P226. You have two great shooters there with the P226 and the P228

magripa-
Do you have any pictures of your P210? If so, could you post them. Yours would be the first on this thread

 

[magripa]

My P210 but having a problem with uploading pictures

 

[1BLINDREF]

What a classic! Thats an awesome gun. How long have you owned it? Is it as accurate as they say that they are? How often do you shoot it?

 

[magripa]

What a classic! Thats an awesome gun. How long have you owned it? Is it as accurate as they say that they are? How often do you shoot it?

If you asking for accuracy I would say that only other pistol you can compare to P210 is Luger but P210 is also extremely reliable what I can not say for Luger. I purchased this gun in local shop and it was in bad shape (some rust in grip area and barrel is also corroded by the end, bluing was missing about 30%).This is actually Danish military pistol so it was in used condition and with black plastic grips.
I was able to replace grips and fix ejecting problems by gunsmith but I still have only one mag and can’t find a second.

 

[TexasP226]

I picked up an SP2022 in 9mm today at Cabela's. They had them for about $550. Got it with 2 15 round mags and factory night sites. Not bad! This makes Sig #7.

 

[1BLINDREF]

magripa-
P210 magazines pop up on eBay almost weekly. They go for about $100 Here are links to two of them right now.
http://cgi.ebay.com/10-SIG-P-210-9-mm-MAGAZINE-GUN-PARTS_W0QQitemZ120117194181QQihZ002QQcategoryZ36257QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/SIG-P-210-ORIGINAL-FACTORY-8-ROUND-MAGAZINE_W0QQitemZ230125565906QQihZ013QQcategoryZ36257QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

TexasP226-
Congrats on the new addition to the family! Godd luck with it and give us a range report.

 

[pcf]

Two newest additions

Sig P226 and P228, both new was very happy to find a non-navy P226 without a rail. Both have short triggers and I'm happier than a pig in.....

 

[sako_75]

A birthday present to myself.

 

[TexasP226]

Great choice, Sako. The 220 Carry Elite may well be the most balanced handgun I have ever held. The grips feel great and I LOVE the beavertail. Sig will sell multiple elites to me over the next couple of years. They actually managed to imrpove on the best design out there.

 

[1BLINDREF]

pcf -
Two great finds - Good luck with them

sako -
Great birthday gift. I usually buy myself a Birthday and Christmas gift. You don't mind if I copy what you got for yourself do you?

My UPS driver dropped off a package for me yesturday. It was my P220 and my P226 back from Sig.
The P220 went back for the SSP service and a Nitron job on the slide. Its great to have fresh Nites and springs in your baby. They even changed the grip screws. My old ones weren't even that bad.
The Nitron job came out perfect. I had to take some pictures - hope you don't mind.



Sig fixed my P226 PME so the hammer doesn't drop when the slide is released. They replaced the hammer and the hammer sear. I put the walnut grips on it that I got from Top Gun Supply. More pictures-




and finally - I took two pictures of the family

 

[Lonestar49]

Fine Family

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Hey Blindref,

First, that is one beautiful family ya got there..

Can you tell me where you got the wood Grips for the P220, both, type wood they are, and what color they would be considered, as in medium, or dark?

I pick up my NIB Sig P220R this Sunday and would like to get the same wood grips as your P220 in the above picture, with the same style, grit pattern, and color asap.

Much thanks,


LS

 

[1BLINDREF]

Lonestar-
I got those grips off of eBay. There are no markings on the back of them at all. The seller said that they were factory grips?? I don't know if they are or not, I just liked the looks of them. I know that they are walnut, but thats all I can tell you about them. Maybe Sig offered them on some of the older models. I've never seen them on any Sigs before.

 

[merkaba]

I bought my first Sig.
I posted a thread of the following but I guess it fits here too so:

I got a new Sig P220R with night sights yesterday and broke it in this morning. This is my first semi-auto so I don't have much to compare it to. I've shot a few others but never owned one. I did a lot of research on .45s (1911s vs Sigs) and decided this was the one for me. I shot my friends 220 and loved it. The one I bought says "SigArms Exeter, NH ... Frame Made in Germany' on the right side of the frame with the Sauer circle logo next to it. I haven't seen that before. The Sauer logo looks nice.

My initial reaction is that this gun is simply excellent. It feels great in my hands. Is very accurate. I only fed 150 rounds through it but I'm sure it will be as reliable as Sigs are known for. After breaking it down to clean and looking it over, the parts all look great, every thing is very nicely/precisely finished inside and out.

shot
50 CCI Blazer 230gr
50 Lawman/Speer 230gr
50 Remington 'green box' 230gr
it ate it all just fine, good groupings

Are full size 220s too big for concealed carry ?


Happy new Sig owner

 

[1BLINDREF]

My initial reaction is that this gun is simply excellent. It feels great in my hands. Is very accurate.

merkaba-
Welcome to the world of Sigs. It doesn't take long to become addicted

P220s can be concealed, but they are on the big side. Even the P220 Carry is stretching the limits. Depending on where you live, winter carry isn't a problem. It gets tougher as the weather warms up. Look at a P239 for warm weather carry.