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I had a trial yesterday. Burglary. Long and short of it is that a woman was home alone in her basement, working on the computer in the home office, head a crash upstairs, and went to see what the cat knocked over. Looks around, and instead of the cat, finds a man in her home, carrying her television. She yells at him to get out. He chases her into the kitchen, then into her bedroom, then flees the scene. First deputies arrived on scene in four minutes, but he was already gone. She did get a description of the vehicle, and the plate number. This is how we caught the guy.

Here's where it gets interesting for THR members. Talking to the husband and wife after the guilty verdict. Tell the wife that she should be proud of herself, that she was able to keep herself safe and get good evidence at the same time. Husband says that she's lucky. I ask what he means, and no joke, this is what he says:

"She's been after me to go shooting with me, let her get some practice in with my pistols, and let her have the combination to the safe. But I know, she'd end up shooting the cat some day, or else let the guy take it away from her, and then we'd have had a real problem."

"So, you had a gun in the house?" I asked.

"Yeah," he replied. "I've got a couple of pistols in the safe in the bedroom, loaded and ready to go."

I couldn't believe this one. This guy was so chauvenistic that he was willing to let his wife face a criminal intruder unarmed. And with a woman brave enough to actually run from the attacker, but then watch as he left to collect identifying information.

Anyone think I'm overreacting, or was this guy a moron?
 
was this guy a moron?
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Maybe he has a big life insurance policy on her ...? :uhoh:


And here I have to coax and prod my wife to keep a firearm handy :rolleyes:
Fortunately, I am home most of the time - but still, I like to be able to take a hike in the hills or go to a VFD training without worrying about her.
 
Well, if she's stupid enough to marry a guy who thinks girls are too stupid to use a gun, maybe she is. How's that for circular logic? :evil:
 
My wife grew up on a farm shooting rabbits and gophers, they were pests that needed riddance, you do not want to go up against her with a 22 a the range, she is just so methodical about it. My wife never had handguns around and when she found out I did she more or less laid down the law that I was taking her shooting and she was going to have a pistol. As in "you want to ? and I did not get to the range today? I don;t think so" that made it very easy for me to change my mind.


Men are stupid when comes to topics like this. He should be thanking his lucky stars that the crook was carrying the TV in his hands and not both his guns. let see who would make him dinner after his wife got shot, or raped or mudered.
 
Perhaps you should've been the real man in the situation and offered to show her how to shoot, her husband be damned.
 
That husband is an idiot. From the way she acted during the Burlgary I have no doubt she would have dropped the hammer on the scumbag. If you can't take her shooting you should have the Sheriff's Dept Range Master go to her house and take her shooting.
 
CAS,

It might not be chauvenism. There are people out there who are simply incapable, or too irresponsible to handle firearms. For all your post indicates, she could have a major psychological issue (i.e. manic depression, schitzophrenia, etc.) or she may just be an irresponsible person.

I'm not saying that the husband's reasoning is necessarially valid, but, without knowing why he thinks she'd "just shoot the cat", or without actually knowing the woman, it's difficult to pass judgement.
 
the husband is a control freak.... and without doubt, this woman will be heading his sorry a** out the door.... keep in mind, this was a short exchange you had with them...
 
My mother used to say that to me all the time. "They'll just take it away from you and use it against you." Well, I'm pretty sure that I can speak for most of the people here when I say that if someone takes my gun away from me, they'll have to beat me to death with it because it'll be empty.
 
That guy IS a fairly low-wattage lamp from what I can tell...but then we don't know the whole story. I will say, though, that if she has the presence of mind to chase out the BG, and get a good description of person and car, complete with plate number, she is probably OK around firearms.

Kinda like "XDoctor" said..yeah, they may take my gun from me, but they will have to use it as an impact weapon, because it will be empty, and they'll be climbing over a LARGE pile of expended brass.
 
He knows his wife better than we do. Maybe she's a complete airhead.
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Maybe ... but her actions do indicate otherwise.


Its possible that this guy has learned a lesson and will now take his wife shooting and give her the combo to the safe (or better yet, take the pistols out of the safe and put them in a drawer where they will actually be useful ...assuming no munchkins in the house).
 
What a moron. :mad:

I've said it over and over: women NEED to learn how to defend themselves mroe than most men.
 
Okay, I noticed that I did leave a couple of key points out as I ranted on about this guy. His arrogance in general was overwhelming. He was trying to give me tips on how to present my case. And, he's not an attorney, he's a mechanical engineer.

As to his chauvenism, he made comments to me that he believed there were too many women in the jury to count on a rational decision. And, he made little remarks along the way about his wife that led me to believe he was the one with the problem.

As for her, let me add some details. She ran, locked the bedroom door behind her, grabbed her cell phone (she said she was afraid the intruder had cut the phone lines) to call 911, wrote the car plate number on the wall with eyeliner, as she didn't have pen and paper handy, and did all this while watching for important details as the guy went to the car and got in to drive away, like noting the flames on the car, a crack in the windshield, etc. I talked to her several times since the incident occurred, and I never saw any signs of problems with her mental health or personality.

As for taking her to shoot myself, that would likely prove problematic, explaining to my wife why I was taking an attractive female I met through work for some range time. I think I'll call and provide her with information about a local indoor range that offers training.
 
I don't know either of the people that you're referred to.

Like RilyMC stated, the wife could be a total airhead.
However, she has yet to prove that.

The husband, on the other hand, certainly didn't do anything to help his cause.

So, for the time being the scoreboard reads:

Wife - 1
Husband - 0
 
> Well, if she's stupid enough to marry a guy who thinks girls are too stupid to use a gun, maybe she is. How's that for circular logic?

ROFLOL!
 
Access???

Heck, my wife has her own gun safe. Every gun in it is loaded! Her logic, she'll never know which one she'll need - or want - to use to stop a perp.

In fact, she just emailed me the other day demanding that I buy her a Walther P22 or she will confiscate one of my .22's for her own use.

Oh, and explain to me just how you go about taking a gun away from anyone willing to defend themselves?
 
He knows his wife better than we do. Maybe she's a complete airhead.
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I doubt when it comes to defending herself that she's an idiot; however, she may be irresponsible when it comes to firearms. Somehow though, I doubt it.

My live-in girlfriend, fortunately, does shoot, and has complete access to a firearm in the home (she can't legally carry yet) should she ever need it for such a contingency as described above.

My ex, however, albiet strong-willed, brave, and capable of defending herself against an attacker (with anything but a firearm), should NEVER be allowed to even LOOK at a gun! :what:

Like another poster said, he knows his wife better than the rest of us.

-38SnubFan
 
"They'll just take it away from you". It makes it seem so easy to take a firearm away from someone. I never understood this reasoning...

"They'll just take it away from you. Well then... take it back!"

That husband should teach his wife how to shoot if he truly cares about her. After all he's making assumptions that she cant shoot, but how would he know if he's never taken her. I think this is the classic example of being the man of the house, and he cant fathom thinking one day his wife is the one thats gonna save his sorry butt.
 
Not having heard anything from the wife or knowing anything about her, this is as stupid questioning police shootings without the details.

Oh wait. We already do that here. :banghead:

Of course, you can visit the forums here and spend days counting how many morons will post, "want to buy my wife/girlfriend a gun, what do I get her?" questions but havent' bothered to speak with the wife/girlfriend in question first.
 
Why is this about him? She is the moron.

She should go get a carry permit and get a gun and go shooting. This has nothing to do with him. Regardless of what an idiotic comment he made...
 
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